Mr hindsight here. The worst kind of observations.
How Good is David Silva?
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Mr hindsight here. The worst kind of observations.
Righto.... but what was so hilarious to suggest Hazard is better if you agree he's as good as Silva?
It's pathetic, before todays game if i'd said that no one would have battered an eye lid.
Bet that changes again should Hazard have a stormer tomorrow.
Nonsense.
I was praising him in the match day thread before he'd even scored. If you can't see Silva's genius and clear superiority over Hazard then you're beyond help.
Hazard is the most underrated player in the Caf, no joke. Its getting ridiculous.
Is Silva the new Ronaldo? You gonna start hating on him now?
For the record, Silva>>>>>>>>>Hazard
Saying he isn't better than Silva isn't underrating him. He's having a very good start of the season but let's not forget that he was absolutely woeful in the WC. Tremendous talent, undoubtedly.
Is Silva the new Ronaldo? You gonna start hating on him now?
For the record, Silva>>>>>>>>>Hazard
Lol. Sure.
I'll put it this way.
There are a handful of players in this league who would, undoubtedly, improve City significantly:
Di Maria, Hazard. Not many others.
He's given a hard time. It's like Bale all over again. And even Bale hasn't been really accepted as a top talent yet.
Silva's better, because he's unbelievable. But Hazard's definitely in Di Maria 's bracket, for me.
So, Ronaldo was also woeful, Silva wasnt special either, stop judging at the world cup in which he played like 5 matches and judge him over a season in which he plays over 50.
How is Hazard underrated? It's well acknowledged on here that he's a fantastic player.
In my opinion, claiming that he's out of place in a list containing Di Maria is underrating him.
I think Ozil would too. I know he's not been particularly great for Arsenal, but I think he'd flourish in that Man City side who are probably the most dominant side in the league in possession. Sadly his form for Real Madrid has been forgotten. They could very easily fit him somewhere to form an attacking trio consisting of Navas/Nasri and Silva.
Ofcourse, but I even think the lad is world class, he is a source of creativity, power, directness, technique, speed, explosive, has great vision and passing, to me he is in the tier of di Maria, Silva, if not, just a little little bit under them.
Yeah, I'd agree with that. He certainly belongs in that bracket but SIlva is still better.
Possibly. I'm not sure.
There are still question marks over the system, style, role etc. with Ozil.
Whereas with Hazard and Di Maria, you just couldn't see them not improving City. There wouldn't be any ifs or buts.
They come in; they make City significantly better.
Ozil wouldn't fit into our team whatsoever. It would be a case of either him or Silva and in the Premier League he hasn't come close to emulating Silva's performances.
What? It was a comma, not a full stop, same sentence, same point.
Well you seem to be judging him on the basis of the first eight matches played in this season, so I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to rate him on the basis of his world cup. Personally to claim that he's better than Silva is bonkers.
Aren't you the guy who claimed Courtois was in a different league to DDG? Figures.
I'm a fan of Ozil but I don't think he would significantly improve City. They would have to keep Silva on the wing to get the best out of Ozil and even then he would only have Aguero really making runs for him to find when at Madrid he had Ronaldo, Di Maria and Benzema constantly doing it.
What do you think of last season? Do you remember? Hazard Chelsea's best player.. Never said he is better than Silva.
If you mean by different league that Courtois is a class above, then I'd say yes.
He's already one of the best players ever to play in the PL.
I'm no fan of Moyes, but I find it a bit too convenient to blame him for Mata's lacklustre (so far) performance. Kagawa clearly wasn't stepping up under Moyes (where the fault lies for that is probably best discussed elsewhere,) and there was a widely held view that Rooney's best position was upfront, that he wasn't good enough for the #10 position (a view that has strangely died down this year, despite Rooney's not really showing that much of an improvement this year, IMO.) So I think there was certainly an argument to be made that we needed to address a creativity deficit in our team, and given Mata's form in the previous two seasons, I don't think we can blame Moyes for going after him.
What I can't understand is why Moyes stopped there. He took every opportunity to point how weak our squad was last season, so why didn't buy more players? Matic was available in the January window, and I'm sure that a big enough offer would've been enough to get him. We likely would have needed to pay more than Chelsea to overcome the homecoming/Mourinho factor, but so what? We've ended having to do that anyway with just about every transfer since. As well, given the issues with Rio and Vidic last season, why didn't Moyes move to get another CB. Now I have no idea who that would've been, but then I'm not paid to know these things; Moyes was.)
Anyway, sorry for hijacking the Silva thread, although given that he plays for City, I'm not really sorry at all.
The N10 position was the last one that we needed to upgrade. We needed to sort out the midfield and then the defense (including the left back), then we needed to sort our wingers... Moyes was guilty of chasing a luxury player rather than buying what we really needed.
I think we needed to sort out all those positions, and it was a major failing of Moyes' not to do that during the two transfer windows in which he was here.
This.
People are conveniently forgetting his annual 4 month holidays either side of the Xmas period.... Good player, but far too flakey, outside of a good few moments. He has Gary Neville and his stupid scoregasms over that pass to Dzeko to thank for his inflated reputation.
Annual 4 month holiday. Nothing beats killing a debate like some good old ridiculous hyperbole.
Good player? You seriously can't be watching the same player if that's the best thing you have to say about him but given that you say 'outside of a good few moments' suggests you really don't have a clue what type of a player Silva is.
Silva, along with the likes of Hazard, Suarez, Bale, Neymar and Aguero are all in the absolute top catergory of player for me, just below Messi and Ronaldo.
Incredible player. So easy on the eyes to watch.
Too bad he plays for City.
Too bad he plays for City.
Even when City loses he stands out...sometimes he's guilty of drifting out of games... but when he's getting himself involved, he's almost unplayable.
Amazing how City can have the two best players in the league, yet can still a) be behind Chelsea and b) fail in Europe.
Amazing how City can have the two best players in the league, yet can still a) be behind Chelsea and b) fail in Europe.
I really thought we would sign him after his performance against Chelsea in CL. But it was our 'No fecking value in the market era'
Silva > Hazard, but not by much. Given Hazard's form so far this season if he maintains it we're all going to agree Hazard > Silva.
I could watch his goal over and over again.