You are totally correct . Maguire has had his peak and United are ran by people stupid enough to pay 80 million for him and that's the only reason he's still our Captain .
The man will only keep declining so he should be sold ASAP and we move on.
How do we sell Harry Maguire?
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You are totally correct . Maguire has had his peak and United are ran by people stupid enough to pay 80 million for him and that's the only reason he's still our Captain .
The man will only keep declining so he should be sold ASAP and we move on.
What do you want them to say though? "He's shit, this is his level, he won't get any better"?
Is his contract not up soon? Think you'll just do a Pogba on him.
Martial? The guy has been injured the whole season apart from a 45 min stint o.O
Nope, he's contracted till 2026. Woodward thought it was a good idea to give him a 6+1 contract.
He still has a further 3 years left on his contract! A Pogba ain't happening with him. Needs to be hounded out of the club. The guy is shameless enough to stick it out and keep crying about booing, and complain about other players when he himself IS the biggest problem. His sources' City quote was atrocious so was throwing De Gea under the bus. The guy didn't come out and apologize for the quote so means he stands by it.
Basically your new Phil Jones then. Will just morph into eternal bench player until perhaps Jan 2025 when someone may take a punt on him. He'll be into his 30s by then though.
I believe his time at United is up.
I feel like he was building up prior to the Euros, but the combination of the hangover all England players seemed to have after that, combined with the Greek fiasco, he’s never been close to the same player.
Let him go back to Leicester, or a similar level and let him get back to being a perfectly good English CB without the pressure of United or being the most expensive CB.
I feel like he was building up prior to the Euros, but the combination of the hangover all England players seemed to have after that, combined with the Greek fiasco, he’s never been close to the same player.
Let him go back to Leicester, or a similar level and let him get back to being a perfectly good English CB without the pressure of United or being the most expensive CB.
And you know the club will take up that option too
People need to stop peddling this. Multiple examples of him being poor before Greece.
I’m not suggesting he was prime Maldini or anything, but he was pretty solid. A step above the likes of Smalling to be sure.
Fair point in comparison to Smalling he was an improvement but the discussion about Maguire goes back to pretty near the beginning.
I suppose my biggest issue with the sudden pile on is that people turned a blind eye to his errors early on because we either rode our luck through them or managed to come back from them. He’s not as bad as people are currently making out but he was never as good as others portrayed to begin with.
When he came, he was good. I remember In Maguire first match , Jose Mourinho was MOTD commentator and he was praising how Maguire was covering for everybody. At the end of the season, our defence looked good and we conceeeded the least number of goals among the Top 6. Next season he was made captain and we were second in the league. My point is...He is not scrap. We bought him because we needed him and he was on high demand.( We outbidded city for his signature).
He has 2 major problems now
1. He is lacking confidence.
2. His weakness is being exposed due to how we play. Maguire can never be successful in a high line.
The way forward is that Maguire will go back to leciester or another middle class team that likes to counter and always have lots of bodies at the back. Someone mentioned Spurs but I doubt he will improve any top 6 team.
I have been reading comments here for over 5 years now but decided to be a member due to this argument of yours. You are spot on bro. YOU NEED A TEAM TO WIN MATCHES. It's better to buy 3 good players which will improve the team than 1 with same amount of money. Greece winning the Euros in 2004 made me conclude that. And to be honest with us....Manchester united during Sir Alex did not really have the best players in their team even in England. But we were successful cos we always have a team playing for each other. A balanced defence, hard working midfield and strikers who are confident. If an opportunity comes to sign a wonderful player for a lot of money....no problem. But ensure the team is balanced. Let me give us something to worry on. We bought Sancho at the start of last season for a lot of money, we brought Ronaldo because he was a superstar. Those 2 deals plunged us into 6th and exposed us as a team. Not because they were bad players but because their presence changed our shape and chemistry. Real Madrid tried it with the Galaticos era but it never worked.
in the UTD panel at the moment i think only 3 have won premier lge titles, all have being said are not good enough at various stages of their time here, i know it means nothing as father time and form catches up on everyone, i think he is still worth 40m or so to some team in premiership
There was never competition. We're only Club in the whole world that bid for him for that Leicester's price.
Also Maguire was made Captain in his first season.
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Well he can't be sold till January can he, at the earliest. He will be worth more than £40 million if England can win the World Cup plus United need him now as Varane looked hurt today.
Stick him in the reserves and pretend we sold him. Wonder what Southgate would do then.
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In all honesty the guy has became a scapegoat for a lot of United supporters worldwide. He is an average classic british type of CB whos pinnacle is West Ham or Fulham. He is still not as bad as Lindelof who is an absolute puff...
But all in all as somebody on the CAF said we have spent 140 mil on him, Lindelof and Bailly and we could have sticked with Evans and Smalling and we would not have been worse off. Martinez is the first CB I have confidence in after a very long time and even he needs a tall teammate in a partnership as well...
But all in all as somebody on the CAF said we have spent 140 mil on him, Lindelof and Bailly and we could have sticked with Evans and Smalling and we would not have been worse off. Martinez is the first CB I have confidence in after a very long time and even he needs a tall teammate in a partnership as well...
It's going to take some creative negotiating to get Maguire out before the end of the Summer 2023 window. Personally, I get the feeling he'll still be on the bench for us next season unless he really wants to start elsewhere, in which case I'm sure he'd have to take a huge pay cut and probably pay something to get out of his contract as well... it is a bit of a mess. I can't see us investing in another CB until he is gone either. We are probably trying hard to offload Jones and Bailly at the same time.
With Varane's injuries, Maguire will probably even feel he has a chance to play and fight for a place...
With Varane's injuries, Maguire will probably even feel he has a chance to play and fight for a place...
The pronunciation of Maguire around 0:58 is the funniest thing I've heard all week
that actually made me laugh, Harry May Garr, brilliant........
Can see him leaving on loan with us covering a big part of the wages and hopefully moved on a year latter for a symbolic fee of no more than 15-20M.
Obviously we'd have to make the box a bit bigger
Yet Lindelof gets picked ahead of him by the first manager who knows what he's doing. He's much better with the ball and reads the game better, which for me is Maguire's biggest weakness.
p.s i dont think you should be calling him that either
Well out of order.
What the feck
I think you should go hang out in the Qatar thread. Or perhaps not.The only way he leaves is if he starts and plays well for England at the WC, and then someone comes in for him. We need him to do that to boost the value and his exposure across the market. I think the club will wait to see the extent of the injury to Varane and who comes back fit after the WC before making a decision. If he stays and barely plays all season his value plummets (and rightly so). Someone like a Newcastle might come sniffing at the right price.
I'm not too against Maguire - he was wildly overpriced, but we paid the money, so that's on the club. If he's happy being backup, then he's of sound quality for that role.
I'm not too against Maguire - he was wildly overpriced, but we paid the money, so that's on the club. If he's happy being backup, then he's of sound quality for that role.
Yes, our best chance is that he performs really well in the WC, and gains some confidence to play decent for the rest of the season.
Can't see us letting him go in Jan, considering we barely have options there and Varane being very injury prone. However, I don't think he'll be at United next season.
Can't see us letting him go in Jan, considering we barely have options there and Varane being very injury prone. However, I don't think he'll be at United next season.
With Varane out until after the WC he will be getting games, hope he can prove me wrong.
Your quoted 2 problems are in fact minor, because they can easily be fixed. There are 2 more MAJOR problems
3. No Club is going to pay >50m for him, at best a high 20s. Eat the loss.
4. No Club is going to pay 150K for him, so either he has to take a 50% pay cut, or we subsidize his loss.
Correct. The only way we're selling him is at a loss.
I really enjoy watching United play when Maguire is not in the side.
Team was not coherent in the first few games but I think now even with Maguire we will play good. As long as Licha and Casemiro starts, Maguire defects wont be exposed.
Also, we play weaker teams for next few matches. I think this is a golden chance for him to return to form.
Also, we play weaker teams for next few matches. I think this is a golden chance for him to return to form.
I think you'll end up with a loan arrangement by the end of his contract, a bit like Bailly's now. It allows Utd to receive a loan fee and some help with the wages. A loaning club, someone like Everton, would be more likely to raise their wage ceiling if it was just for 10 months than for a permanent contract. All other costs you've incurred, for his transfer fee and for the remainder of his contract, are sunken costs; they've already happened.
One thing that factors in here is the unilateral improvement by every defender this season. So why wouldn't Harry improve too. Surely by now he sees that doing the work for this manager and fully buying in is the path to finding whatever game he has left.
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Ten Hag is a wizard with the back line. A wizard I tell you. And please no bad hogwarts jokes.
Looked okay last night when he came, maybe this the turning point in his career? With Case-fkn-miro in front protecting him hopefully he does well until King Varane is back.
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