I stand by my sentiment that anyone who doesnt think Willian is a very good and very important player knows nothing about football. He wont lose his place to Caudrado.
How do Chelsea do it?
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I can envision Cuadrado being converted to Willian no.2. Willian was supposed to be a creative midfielder but now he's only known for his hard work, not his attacking output or creativity. Cuadrado could very possibly turn into that too. Unless Willian wants to play more central.
That's possibly because Willian is working under a coach who often sets teams up for attritional battles.
They do seem to be very good salesmen at Chelsea for the last couple of years.
Mata, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Schürrle and Luiz - all surpless to requirements, but sold for a total of £150m.
£30m average is pretty impressive, given that the only two players we've ever sold for mor than £16m were two of the biggest names in football, both of whom went off to be Galacticos.
Mata, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Schürrle and Luiz - all surpless to requirements, but sold for a total of £150m.
£30m average is pretty impressive, given that the only two players we've ever sold for mor than £16m were two of the biggest names in football, both of whom went off to be Galacticos.
Chelsea don't stop spending just because they have a good player. If they find a better player they generally sign him up and sell the inferior, although good player. Most of the players they sell are actually good and would improve many top 4 teams.
His contract would have expired that same summer, so decent money I suppose.
This, basically.
You rarely talk about football and when you do you talk shite. Willian was a great attacking midfielder, beating players, making incisive passes etc now he's just a drone tracking, covering, sideways pass - not making use of his talent at all.
You obviously didnt watch him on Saturday then, he dribbled past about 3 players in one attack and held onto the ball as good as Hazard before unleashing his immaculate passing in the build up to the goal. He is the kind of player that Arsenal, Liverpool and even United lack that is the reason they are not anywhere near the title.
No way that they over paid for Ramires or Luiz. I would take Ramires in our midfield in a heart beat. Luiz was a good player for what Chelsea paid for him and made a huge profit when they sold him on. Willian looks like a decent player, but i do believe that they over paid for him.
I definitely agree with the first part of your post but not totally with the second. Over time maybe Cuadrado will take his place even if he might just find himself of the bench at the moment.
You're the same guy who said Willian is poor on the ball.
Say if we were to sell Herrera now how much could we get for him?
If I were seeking to get around financial fair play rules, I would look for clubs with spending deficits, sell them players for inflated prices and then feed the excess money and a little bonus back to the club's owners in ways invisible to UEFA. They get their player and a nice off the books earner. I get more FFP firepower than I deserve. Everyone is happy.
I'm not suggesting for a moment that's what Chelsea are up to...but that's what I'd do. Incidently this is why carbon quotas failed to stop global warming. Small countries sold their carbon allowance to big countries.
I'm not suggesting for a moment that's what Chelsea are up to...but that's what I'd do. Incidently this is why carbon quotas failed to stop global warming. Small countries sold their carbon allowance to big countries.
Well Mata is easy, he just developed into a beter player and when he was available we were desperate for a creative player and willing to pay the extra high fee Chelsea asked (which makes sense because you don't just sell a good player to a team that has been one of your biggest rivals for years).
Lukaku was bought on potential which he never realized at Chelsea but he did at WBA and later on at Everton. He was the most important player for Everton last year so they were desperate to have him on a permanent deal and paid the extra PL-player tax. So that one makes sense aswell.
For Schürle I'd say he is highly rated in the Germany. He plays really well for the German national team (beter than at Chelsea) and perhaps that helped push the price.
Luiz was just ridiculous either PSG just lost their heads completely in the World cup madness and were genuinely despserate to have him or something dodgy is behind this between both clubs (under hand payments etc to cook the books for FFP)
Genuinely I'd say what Chelsea has done really well over the last windows is timing. They sell a player they don't desperately need anymore when he is in a period where is doing well or did very well atleast and certain clubs have an interest in these players that Chelsea use really well to ask a big transfer fee but not a ridiculous one that no one would ever pay.
Example of Hernandez and Nani is very good in this respect. When they were playing really well there was a time we could have sold each of them for €30-€40 million easily. Real Madrid was super interested in Hernandez in his first two seasons and Nani was wanted by a lot of Italian teams when he was at his peak (also Itlian clubs weren't totally broke like they are now). If we had the same sense Chelsea has had (in the last windows) we should have sold them and would have made like €70-€80 m on two players that would currently fetch us €35m together at best. We hold on to our players too long and miss the opportune time to sell them. I'am sure if we had looked to sell Anderson around 2 or 3 years ago he would have fetched us most of our money back that we invested in him and if we had done the same with Cleverley he would also fetched us €25m or more easily. But we believe in the hype of our own players even if they have been playing for a very long time and keep on to them way past the point where it is about time to sell them. I'am for example convinced if a club would come by and wanted to buy Herrera or Januzaj we would be against it at about every price they would offer. Wheter that is a wise decision depends on the future. Chelsea have made a couple of good decisions on this area we on the other hand have made a lot of poor ones over the last couple of years.
The right time to sell a player is when you are doing well and the player is doing well or atleast did very well in the near past. Than clubs want them and you can ask higher prices that will be paid. But when If you are doing poor and are trying to get rid of your worst players you can hardly expect to get a decent price for them.
Lukaku was bought on potential which he never realized at Chelsea but he did at WBA and later on at Everton. He was the most important player for Everton last year so they were desperate to have him on a permanent deal and paid the extra PL-player tax. So that one makes sense aswell.
For Schürle I'd say he is highly rated in the Germany. He plays really well for the German national team (beter than at Chelsea) and perhaps that helped push the price.
Luiz was just ridiculous either PSG just lost their heads completely in the World cup madness and were genuinely despserate to have him or something dodgy is behind this between both clubs (under hand payments etc to cook the books for FFP)
Genuinely I'd say what Chelsea has done really well over the last windows is timing. They sell a player they don't desperately need anymore when he is in a period where is doing well or did very well atleast and certain clubs have an interest in these players that Chelsea use really well to ask a big transfer fee but not a ridiculous one that no one would ever pay.
Example of Hernandez and Nani is very good in this respect. When they were playing really well there was a time we could have sold each of them for €30-€40 million easily. Real Madrid was super interested in Hernandez in his first two seasons and Nani was wanted by a lot of Italian teams when he was at his peak (also Itlian clubs weren't totally broke like they are now). If we had the same sense Chelsea has had (in the last windows) we should have sold them and would have made like €70-€80 m on two players that would currently fetch us €35m together at best. We hold on to our players too long and miss the opportune time to sell them. I'am sure if we had looked to sell Anderson around 2 or 3 years ago he would have fetched us most of our money back that we invested in him and if we had done the same with Cleverley he would also fetched us €25m or more easily. But we believe in the hype of our own players even if they have been playing for a very long time and keep on to them way past the point where it is about time to sell them. I'am for example convinced if a club would come by and wanted to buy Herrera or Januzaj we would be against it at about every price they would offer. Wheter that is a wise decision depends on the future. Chelsea have made a couple of good decisions on this area we on the other hand have made a lot of poor ones over the last couple of years.
The right time to sell a player is when you are doing well and the player is doing well or atleast did very well in the near past. Than clubs want them and you can ask higher prices that will be paid. But when If you are doing poor and are trying to get rid of your worst players you can hardly expect to get a decent price for them.
Yeah it really is a coincidence that they've bought a load of players who have hardly featured and then been sold on.
Nani and Hernandez for 30-40m......arguably more insane than the Luiz price tag, would of accepted those kind of bids in an instant. I'd say 25m MAX for Nani. 20m MAX for Hernandez, similar numbers probably were rejected, which even then I would of accepted, forget hindsight.
Yeah, well, we got Nicky Butt for free and sold him for £2.5m. Infinity percent mark up!
Wondering what their plans are for the summer. They've already done so many great deals and they're ahead of us, imagine what will happen if they have a succesful summer again.
Another CB would be on the list you'd imagine. Terry is old and Cahill has struggled this season.
It's like a second-hand car dealership.