WeasteDevil
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Originally posted by VanNistlerater:
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eh..that aint true atall</strong><hr></blockquote>
You talking about Manchester or Greater Manchester? I'm certainly not from Manchester.
Originally posted by VanNistlerater:
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eh..that aint true atall</strong><hr></blockquote>
You talking about Manchester or Greater Manchester? I'm certainly not from Manchester.
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>Ireland
2) Yes they are a religion here
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Not really sure if that's a good thing
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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You talking about Manchester or Greater Manchester? I'm certainly not from Manchester. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Same for me, Salford and proud of it
Originally posted by njred:
<strong>Looks like in all of these countries the older people like Liverpool(due to 3 decades of greatness),while the younger fans and bandwagon fans follow united(due to only 1 decade of success).</strong><hr></blockquote>
If you were to split along age boundaries it would generally be United fans up to the mid/late twenties with Pool fans as 30 somethings and then over 40s reverting to United fans.
When travelling if you say you are from Manchester the older generation generally greet you with a broad grin and "Bobby Charlton, George Best Yes" whilst the younger generation obviously idolise the current team. You generally don't see the scouse fan but he's the one that nicked your wallet while you were talking to the 2 generations of true Reds
Originally posted by Cal:
<strong>Hong Kong:
a)Everyone
b)Yes - to a certain extent
c)90% of all football fans</strong><hr></blockquote>
can i add something here?? i agree to this, for c)
yes, 90% of all football fans, but some of them supports more than one.
Originally posted by Conor16:
<strong>Canada:
1)Most people at some point or another
2)To some of us, but in large , no
3)I'd say a fair amount, maybe 500k?</strong><hr></blockquote>
hehe..go 'n' ask those students from Hong Kong, they knew it all!
Originally posted by njred:
<strong>Looks like in all of these countries the older people like Liverpool(due to 3 decades of greatness),while the younger fans and bandwagon fans follow united(due to only 1 decade of success).</strong><hr></blockquote>
Me dad's pushing 50 and he supports United. So do all his old mates. mind you, they were at UMIST in the late 60s / early 70s so that's why.
I'm from Malaysia btw. The situation there is a bit strange cos you've got old people supporting both Liverpool and United. Those lucky enough to go to university in the UK went to Manchester and liverpool because they were cheaper. So you find few Arsenal or Spurs fans (even today) and about 60% Liverpool 40% united fans.
Originally posted by Bury Red:
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When considering the statistics for Malaysia it would help greatly if you could divide the percentages to indicate how many orthodox United fans there are in the Pjaya mold, and how many radical fundamentalist's like Itchk who would have the team flogged and the back four executed every time we concede a corner </strong><hr></blockquote>
I would say about evens
Originally posted by Bury Red:
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If you were to split along age boundaries it would generally be United fans up to the mid/late twenties with Pool fans as 30 somethings and then over 40s reverting to United fans.
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This is quite true in Norway at least, though I would say Liverpool got the biggest fanbase in the 25-35 bracket.
I'm 29, and started following United in '81, when most kids my age followed Liverpool. That contiunued for almost 10 years until the early 90's, when United again gained popularity with the kids (the United supporters' club surpassed Liverpool in the mid 90's I think).
Among those who 'discovered' English football before '75 however, there's a big bias towards United. Like my dad, who first got sympathy through Munich, and the Best/Charlton/Law side was the first quality side he ever saw on tv.
There's also quite many older Norwegians who support Leeds (for their 70's team), and also clubs like Stoke and Wolves (both a lot on tv at the time where most games shown were from the Midlands)
Originally posted by Bury Red:
<strong>Expanding on what Cal rightly says to take in the whole of China now we are just an economic enclave:
a./ Anyone who knows what a football is from Shanghai to Shenzhen or from Tibet to Tsientsin knows of Manchester United. Bobby Charlton is still the only English phrase known by many although David Beckham is rapidly closing in.
b./ Whilst religion is frowned upon, United are welcomed with open arms. Could be the red shirts, the team spirit or just the Beckham duvets but there's a hell of a lot of converts for a secular country.
c./ Conservative estimates put the number of die hard fans at between 10 & 20 million. The TV audience in China alone for Rio's debut against Ajax was 30 million!!! Why do you think we play so many early kick offs these days.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Exactly. That's why the club set up the first ever non-English offcial website in Chinese last year.
<a href="http://www.manunited.com.cn" target="_blank">http://www.manunited.com.cn</a>
Although I think it really sucks.
BTW, I think Becks is more popular than Sir Bobby Charlton in China. Almost everybody (even if he is not a football fan) knows Beckham, since he is also an fashion icon.
Originally posted by spinoza:
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Me dad's pushing 50 and he supports United. So do all his old mates. mind you.
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Originally posted by 26 may 1999:
[QB]a)Has anyone heard of them?
b)Are they a religion?
c)How many Reds in your country?
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Belgium:
a) Yes
b) no
c) Why a question about Liverpool in a series of ManUtd-related questions? If you meant united and forget they are the 'Red Devils', then that would be a couple of thousand maybe.
TRM.
Originally posted by The Red Machine:
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Belgium:
a) Yes
b) no
c) Why a question about Liverpool in a series of ManUtd-related questions? If you meant united and forget they are the 'Red Devils', then that would be a couple of thousand maybe.
TIM.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Don't be a dickhead tim.
Originally posted by flavia:
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Exactly. That's why the club set up the first ever non-English offcial website in Chinese last year.
<a href="http://www.manunited.com.cn" target="_blank">http://www.manunited.com.cn</a>
Although I think it really sucks.
BTW, I think Becks is more popular than Sir Bobby Charlton in China. Almost everybody (even if he is not a football fan) knows Beckham, since he is also an fashion icon.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the Official Chinese website sucks then at least the club have managed to accuratley translate the spirit of the official English version.
It was Bobby that came over to officially open the website though I have to agree his status as a fashion icon disappeared along with his hair.
Originally posted by FresnoBob:
<strong>The ABU movement in the USA can be attributed in large part to the association between United and the New York Yankees. The Yanks are by far the most popular baseball team in the US, but, as a result of their success, have a large number of enemies as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That´s BS IMO. People who hate us dont just hate us because we have some kind association with a baseball team. I doubt many people even know about that.
Originally posted by Dominant:
<strong>The media here is OBSESSED with man utd. Our every win is splashed in the papers, with the sheer amount of coverage unsurpassed by any other team's win, other than a man utd loss, where there would be an even BIGGER amount of coverage.
Seems like i am the second sporean to post in this thread after penny, (by the way, hi penny!) where are the rest? if any?
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hi there,
Dominant say it very very right ... you bet what the newspaper would have its main story on everytime our team lost ( even it's just 0-1 ) .. You don't need to flip the paper and you know how's it gonna be like ... chances are some ABU journalist will be happy to just add any lousy stuff they could to the articles - just FOR all the ABU
Originally posted by Jens:
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That´s BS IMO. People who hate us dont just hate us because we have some kind association with a baseball team. I doubt many people even know about that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Jens--I figure more people in the US know about the connection between the Yanks and United than give a damn about "soccer," so any feeling they have about any team is motivated by non-footballing reasons. Seriously, do you think half the "Celtic" fans over here know anything about that team other then the fact they are the Irish Catholic team? Remember, with the standard of geographic literacy over here, most of them have no idea where Glasgow is, or Manchester, and only know Liverpool is in England because the Beatles were from there.