Heroes - Season 3

I don't normally criticize that often but last season was a bit shit, hopefully it picks up.
 
Writer's strike cut it way short, but Tim Kring openly admitted that it was a slow season, especially with Hiro's stint in old Japan. It's a double bill on that Monday, 2 days before my birthday n all :D
 
The second series was a huge let down imo. Hoping this one is a lot better.
 
Cos tonight..... is the niiiight...

When Heroes returns.
 
verrry interesting developments. the new characters look promising. some of the dead wood is still there.
 
First series was absolutely amazing. I fell totally in love with it; couldn't get enough.

But the second series was utter tripe. The writer's strike probably did it a favour to be honest in that it cut it short. Tim Kring openly admitted that it was a pile of wank, and apologised to the fans for such a poor second series.

Let's hope this third series gets it back to the heights of the first.
 
I tried to watch one episode but thought it was shit, even though I am nowhere up to date mired midway in Season 1, Lost is a far better show
 
I think their biggest mistake (and one that will continually come back to haunt them) was giving Hiro the power of time travel. It just makes the show too confusing, and always leaves them needing to cover their backs from the inevitable "why can't Hiro just go back and..." situations, meaning they put less effort into imaginative storylines.

And it wasn't just a mistake including that power, either, but by giving it to Hiro, too. Because he's so ridiculously popular that they won't dare kill him off. Just like Sylar really should have been killed as a decent end to Series One, but they bottled it because he was so popular.
 
They got another couple to reel me in otherwise I am dropping it like Prison Break.
Can't believe they have managed to ruin it after S1.
 
Cheesy and predictable. Also getting quite samey. See the future, change what happens, save the world - lots of bad acting along the way. Yeah.
 
Not a great start to Season 3, I mean how many tangents do they want to go off on.
 
just watched the first ep, and ok what?

Wasn't Nikki in a fire last time we saw her? Why is she there?

Why is Peter inside that guy? Why is Noah there too, where was he at the end of S2?
 
just watched the first ep, and ok what?

Wasn't Nikki in a fire last time we saw her? Why is she there?

Why is Peter inside that guy? Why is Noah there too, where was he at the end of S2?

First episode or two was going to be about closing up some loose ends from Season 2 but I think after these first two episodes is when it really starts and gets interesting. Episode 2 I thought was quite interesting myself. I think some people were so disappointed after Season 2 that they are gonna look for reasons to moan but you have to give it some time I reckon. Thing with Season 1 was so many stories going on I think even if you didn't like one another was bound to keep you interested. Another thing is a lot of these guys have changed since they got their powers and for many of them it has changed them. Look at Hiro and how he went from a guy on an adventure to someone who is a lot more serious now. This season from what I've read has a much more serious tone to it and a lot darker, a lot of the characters will become darker as well.

As for Niki, how do you know that is Niki?

Peter is there because Peter from the future has stuck him in that guys body. Reason for that is to keep him out of the way while he can sort things out, only he has gone and fecked things up again and now he has to go and find him. I don't know if you have read the official description of Episode 3 but lets just say he has to find him pretty quickly or something bad might happen.

Noah came and told Claire he was with the company but they have probably stuck him in the cell until they have a use for him. He had turned on them and was trying to bring them down so wouldn't be wise to stick him out on missions again but now I think he realises he has to help out.
 
First episode or two was going to be about closing up some loose ends from Season 2 but I think after these first two episodes is when it really starts and gets interesting. Episode 2 I thought was quite interesting myself. I think some people were so disappointed after Season 2 that they are gonna look for reasons to moan but you have to give it some time I reckon. Thing with Season 1 was so many stories going on I think even if you didn't like one another was bound to keep you interested. Another thing is a lot of these guys have changed since they got their powers and for many of them it has changed them. Look at Hiro and how he went from a guy on an adventure to someone who is a lot more serious now. This season from what I've read has a much more serious tone to it and a lot darker, a lot of the characters will become darker as well.

As for Niki, how do you know that is Niki?

Peter is there because Peter from the future has stuck him in that guys body. Reason for that is to keep him out of the way while he can sort things out, only he has gone and fecked things up again and now he has to go and find him. I don't know if you have read the official description of Episode 3 but lets just say he has to find him pretty quickly or something bad might happen.

Noah came and told Claire he was with the company but they have probably stuck him in the cell until they have a use for him. He had turned on them and was trying to bring them down so wouldn't be wise to stick him out on missions again but now I think he realises he has to help out.

Had no idea you were a Heroes fan, Jazz. Goes some way to countering the Arsenal fan-ness, I suppose.
 
Didn't realize there was an Episode 2, just watched it.

In Ep 1 though, what exactly did Sylar do with Claire's brain? It lookd like he just stuck his finger in it and suddenly he had her power.
 
Didn't realize there was an Episode 2, just watched it.

In Ep 1 though, what exactly did Sylar do with Claire's brain? It lookd like he just stuck his finger in it and suddenly he had her power.

Sylar's power (according to heroes wiki) is he 'Intuitive aptitude' which means he is able to look at complex systems and intuitively know how they work, so when he takes a persons brain out he can see how their power works and replicate that.

Had no idea you were a Heroes fan, Jazz. Goes some way to countering the Arsenal fan-ness, I suppose.

heh yeah thanks I think. Only been watching since around May/June. Actually had a mate who wanted me to get Season 2 for him and was always going on about it but never was bothered about watching it, decided to give it a try and think the show is great. Season 1 was immense, Season 2 a bit of let down but I thought they were getting into their stride before it got caught short. Have high hopes for season 3 and think it is headed in the right direction.
 
I'm not sure what to think of Heroes.

The first season was ok, they set a lot of stuff up, and there was some cool storylines, but they don't seem to have the balls to just leave it at that. The second season they wanted would have left a lot of the old cast behind, and I would have been happy with that.

The stuff with Claire and Mr Bennett is interesting, so is the Kristen Bell plot, and the villains stuff could be kick ass. But along with that they've added in random plots about the end of the world (along with another vision, it's ok to tell us about the end of the world, we don't need to see it)

Hiro was a good character, but now he comes off as a bit stupid. Mohinder might actually be useful this year. The problem with timetravellers (especially one who only goes to the future) is we keep seeing versions of dystopian futures, it grates on a bit to be honest. I'd like to see more of Hiro teleporting with his sword (think Nightcrawler in X-men 2) then going into another future.

Hopefully this season does focus on the villains, and hopefully the heroes will actually join up. I really want to see some sort of continued team up.

Also Nikki can die for all I care, every moment with her on screen is frustrating.
 
Niki was the character I was hoping would be killed off. I`ve got no interest in her at all except when she`s in her undies.
 
I was checking some other forums and everyone there was saying this season's off to a good start

glad I'm not alone in thinking it was shit

way too many super powers now.
 
I quite like what they've done with the plot now. They've answered a few questions from last season. We know how Niki didn't die because she had another personality who could freeze things. Probably froze the fire, makes sense. I'm really looking forward to the next couple of episodes.
 
I quite like what they've done with the plot now. They've answered a few questions from last season. We know how Niki didn't die because she had another personality who could freeze things. Probably froze the fire, makes sense. I'm really looking forward to the next couple of episodes.

Perhaps Nickis power could be to adapt to situations she needs. Her "sister" was getting beat down by her Dad, and a new personality was made with superstrength. Nicki is getting burned to death she "dies" and a person with freezing powers is born.
 
Another interesting thing is the character who plays Bob actually shot those scenes with a broken neck (broken in five placed according to wiki) so had to shoot those scenes sitting down and that is why he was killed off so quickly. Credit to him for even showing to shoot them.

I quite like what they've done with the plot now. They've answered a few questions from last season. We know how Niki didn't die because she had another personality who could freeze things. Probably froze the fire, makes sense. I'm really looking forward to the next couple of episodes.

The place blew up mate. Also it wouldn't make much sense seeing how from being blown up, her personality changes and she is then the political adviser of Governor of New York. Seems like those two know each other quite well and are having a relationship. Between her getting blown up and Nathan getting shot is only a few days or weeks at max as well.

Ali Later has done a good job playing those characters (Nikki, Jessica, that girl who went off partying and Tracy). Even though it is the same actress you can distinctly tell the differences with each one.
 
Am I missing something or they have botched it with Claire can not be killed talk/she is special angle. In S1, in future Hiro's version, Sylar kills Claire.
 
She can't feel pain now, but in that future vision she has her head taken off so I assume she can still die, like when she had that glass stuck in her head, she can only regenerate if she is as one, thats why she did not heal until Sylar put her scalp back on.

I will keep watching this series but the storylines so far seem forced.
 
Am I missing something or they have botched it with Claire can not be killed talk/she is special angle. In S1, in future Hiro's version, Sylar kills Claire.

She can be killed, if you destroy her brain she will die but if you put the parts of her brain back I'd guess they would heal up again and regenerate, Adam Monroe told Peter as well that a shot through the head will kill you permanantly so I guess she wouldn't recover from that. I'm not quite sure why she says she is special right at the start in the future and why Sylar does as well. Could be something to do with what Kaito says and the one with pure blood? Dunno about that but she is immortal and I think her not feeling pain is her powers developing because Adam Monroe didn't seem to feel much pain either when we saw him with Peter.
 
The place blew up mate. Also it wouldn't make much sense seeing how from being blown up, her personality changes and she is then the political adviser of Governor of New York. Seems like those two know each other quite well and are having a relationship. Between her getting blown up and Nathan getting shot is only a few days or weeks at max as well.

Ali Later has done a good job playing those characters (Nikki, Jessica, that girl who went off partying and Tracy). Even though it is the same actress you can distinctly tell the differences with each one.
Before it blew up maybe she made an icy cocoon around herself? :nervous: