I'm not singling him out. Its just when commenting in this thread he tends to be the player I focus on. I don't think hes been given a fair chance to not play at maximum capacity yet. What is he supposed to do in tiny cameos? Just put him on the pitch and leave him there until he hits form
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I'm not singling him out. Its just when commenting in this thread he tends to be the player I focus on. I don't think hes been given a fair chance to not play at maximum capacity yet. What is he supposed to do in tiny cameos? Just put him on the pitch and leave him there until he hits form
The problem is that if Mkhi is in a state where he lacks confidence he will easily be the worst player on the pitch every time. We saw that at Dortmund. The natural ability was there but the final pass or finishing a goal scoring chance he usually would bottle it. Mkhi's performances are in a very large part dependent on his mental state and if he is insecure and lacks confidence it will show massively in his performances.
And something tells me that atm José isn't really in the mood to pamper him and give him his confidence back like Tuchel did.
I think you might be right. Problem is different players need different approaches. We have a split squad and I think a lot of them need pampering, its what a manager like ancelotti excels at, its clearly different to mourinhos, also successful, style, but for some players they can't adapt to the siege mentality way of playing.
I agree.
Are Valencia, Bailly, Carrick, Fellaini, Blind, Lingard, Smalling and Rojo underperforming? I don't think so, I think they've played in line with their ability. Do you think those players have another level they can play at?
It's frustrating with Mkhi but I think you have to trust the guy who watches him every day. Especially when his last two appearances have been a bit crap. We can't always blame the team for individual performances.
Di Maria's natural talent was far and above Young's in that 2014/15 season. But Young was putting in better perfomances and was a crucial feature of us making it into the top 4 that season.
You can't just pick players due to supposed natural talent. That's no better than picking players based on past reputation.
Mkhi has seriously been underwhelming when he has played.
I agree. Lots of players have actually played well this season but clearly their best IMO will never be good enough.
Yeah I think lots of posters mix up underperforming with just not being good enough. Then it gets blamed on the manager.
He has played 130 minutes in all competition. One hundred and thirty. How on earth do you feel able to make a judgement like that?
He has been underwhelming when played.He has played 130 minutes in all competition. One hundred and thirty. How on earth do you feel able to make a judgement like that?
That's basic English. So its a judgement of his perfomances when playing.Not necessarily of him as a player.
Don't get your knickers in a twist.
Maybe Miki could use a run out in the reserves? Just to allow him to build up match fitness and play in an environment that's less pressurised?
I don't understand why players aren't doing it this season? Basti and TFM as well. What's the point of not using that resource to get the match fitness? Can't expect people to be thrown in and make an immediate impact if they haven't been playing...
I don't understand why players aren't doing it this season? Basti and TFM as well. What's the point of not using that resource to get the match fitness? Can't expect people to be thrown in and make an immediate impact if they haven't been playing...
Yeah you are right. Di maria was a weird player, started so well but despite getting assists throughout was genuinely woeful for the most part. Young was good for us that season despite a low return of goals and assists.
Exactly.Lingard has actually done well .Not excellent either.What he's been very good is his link up play.
I think Mkhi can come good for us.Very talented player.But that shouldn't solely be the reason for his selection.
If you don't want to select him on that basis then why sign a player who is heavily reliant on confidence, makes no sense imho. Based on his previous seasons he's the last guy who forces his way into the starting XI from the outside.
I was referring to Jose, not you sir about the singling out bit.
I was actually agreeing with what you said.
My bad! Jose always singles out a player, its usually club icons, its a bit surprising to see it be a player he himself brought in.
None of those players bar Lingard competes with Mkhi for the same position, and his performance while tidy haven't exactly been match winning.
Look, I'm not taking sides here, nor saying Jose is wrong or Mkhi is being unfairly treated.I just wish for everyones sake such an important player is not wasted for too long.
The reason I listed those players is because you said they were all underperforming. Suggesting there's a bigger reason for Mkhitaryans problems.
Not on the bench.
Just got to laugh at this point 
Ouch. Injured again?
Nah.Ouch. Injured again?
After Jose's comments,it's likely he's simply been dropped.
Get rid in January, but to say its a cluster feck of a situation is a joke.
JM is on very thin ice, already, I had 110% faith in him.....thats down to 90%
JM is on very thin ice, already, I had 110% faith in him.....thats down to 90%
I believe in Jose but poor man management is one reason why Hazard looks a completely different player relative to last season.
Mikhi was abysmal against City.But I really can't see what this treatment achieves.
Mikhi was abysmal against City.But I really can't see what this treatment achieves.
It's weird, there's got to be something that's happened behind the scenes. I wouldn't be so quick to blame Jose without knowing the facts, but you'd have to think this guy is better than many of our other options.
He's a goner.
He's finished here already I reckon.
It's probably as simple as he's just not being doing it in training, in which case I understand the treatment.
He's off in January. No doubt. We are a joke when it comes to treating some players. Watch him tear it up at PsG when he leaves.
It's very hard to defend Mourinho. It's a shit lineup out there today, that's totally on the manager.
It's very hard to defend Mourinho. It's a shit lineup out there today, that's totally on the manager.
The thing is that Mkhitaryan was known for being one of the most hard-working players at Dortmund and Shakhtar. I highly doubt that he's not trying his best to put a shift in. The problem with him was always his confidence, so I find it baffling how poorly the man-management from Mourinho has been. He's not getting any chance to show what he's capable of.
What the feck is going on?
I want to see him play as much as anyone, but if he is a confidence player, then it's better to use him once the whole teams confidence is higher (whenever that is)
Hopefully he makes the bench for a few home games where we are 2/3 up ( again, whenever that is ) and he can play without pressure.
Sell him in January and replace him with someone Mourinho actually likes.
Where the feck is he? Mourinho better not feck this up because we have no good right wingers, and he's one of the best in the world.
Could be the case that he's disillusioned, and so he's not trying hard enough.
Because it can only be Mourinho's fault?
Clearly something isn't right especially if not even on the bench.
There could obviously be other factors at hand but it's not as if Mourinho doesn't have a history of doing this to players.
Considering what has happened when Mkhitaryan has made it onto the pitch is not exactly far fetched to think he might not be doing enough to warrant selection.
1 bad 45 minutes. The rest has been 20 minute off cameos. I am not sure if a player can be judged after giving him so little time.
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