Seems I touched a nerve...
Have you ever been closer to wanting us to lose?
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Seems I touched a nerve...
I'm guessing you mean Arnold. I doubt Murtough has any authority over the manager.
Not for being a supporter, for claiming to be a supporter while wanting the club to lose.
Get ready to laugh then because you just know we will. We will get tactically played off the park yet beat them with a Ronaldo special last thing.It would be f*cking hilarious if we beat them bastards tomorrow.
I know plenty who would've accepted a loss against Spurs to force a change...
Sorry, you're not a TRUE man utd fan, unless you have british citizenship and live in manchester.
And that's a reason to slap someone?
? Ole is using plenty of Mourinhos players despite signing some to replace them.
yeah, and it will be so funny watching them win major trophies at the end of the season too, whilst we're scrapping for 4th place. LOLZZZZZZZIt would be f*cking hilarious if we beat them bastards tomorrow.
Oh a true top read here, can't only feel like a real fan if you're from Manchester.
I guess us who where born outside the UK and after Fergie took over are not actual supporters.
Load of nonsense, bang your chest all you want and repeat your silly ideas over and over. Foreign supporters is what made this club a global club with economic power.
Meh, we've been spoiled for years with trophies. Real City fans were following their team in the lower divisions a few years ago. It goes in cycles. Hope we smash them.
Hyperbole, used to demonstrate the level of frustration. I assume
Well said.
yeah, trophies - who cares about them?
I was a United fan during the 80s and we used to say similar things back then - when we won our annual cup final against Liverpool. It was a lot more fun in the 90s and 00s though ;-)
It's preaching and condoning violence. Hyperbole my arse.
Woops sorry, it’ll be way more fun to get humped by one of our biggest rivals just so we can appoint a new manager who can’t guarantee we win anything either.
No there's not. They want Ole to do well and are maybe biased, but MU fans all the same.
why ever change manager - after all, nobody can guarantee a trophy can they? Let's just keep Ole forever!
And in case you hadn't noticed we got humped by our BIGGEST rival just a fortnight ago...
Really odd thread.
He didn't say you cant be a real fan if you're not from Manchester. He said that there are lots of fans who stared following United only because of success, and that many of these fans aren't from Greater Manchester.
Well that is obvious isn't it? You won't find many Fulham fans globally.
Surprise surprise people fall in love with their club because success. No kid will choose a loser club. That doesn't mean you're not a true supporter or a "plastic". That entitlement about being a "true fan" just because you were born in Manchester is as stupid as it gets.
Yes because that’s what I said? I think it’s time up for Ole, but guess what? I’m not sad enough to want United to get beaten by City.
Good for you mate!
The biggest fear is that we do just enough this season to finish 3rd or 4th and then we'll keep Ole for meeting the absolute minimum expectations. Which was always a danger of appointing a club legend: if he does just enough he'll be kept on in the vain hope that somehow he turns into a much better manager eventually.
I do hope that club management spends the rest of the season sounding out potential replacements and trying to get an agreement in place with someone like Ten Hag - but that would require a level of foresight and ruthlessness that we haven't seen much of at United in recent years.
The fact is, we got humped by Liverpool just a fortnight ago, how I feel is that IF we were to get humped again, then at least some greater good might come out of it. None of us can control the scoreline anyway, but the worst possible outcome would be for us to lose and the manager still keep his job.
The state of this forum is an absolute disgrace. 3 of 4 threads are mainly about Solskjaer and how useless he is. I don't know why the moderators allow so many threads about the same subject. Even if I'm worried about his tactical abilities,, I don't need 17 threads to express myself on one subject. Opening this forum I see an inflamed unstructured forum made for crybabies. Looking for threads with meaningful information is hard to find because of all the negative threads and people sets the agenda on this forum. Anyway, it makes no sense wanting united to loose. Stop it!
Oh my...we are down to slaps and all now???
I honestly don't understand truly wanting Utd to lose. I understand logically that a series of poor results coupled with some bad performances would lead to Ole moving on and appreciate all that could follow from that. But for me this is this one of those ones where deep, deep, down I can't deny that desire for Utd to win. There's always that little voice cheering the boys on, getting frustrated when we play rubbish, and cheering on Ronaldo's heroics. Because really wanting us to lose should imply cheering on catastrophic defending, wayward passing, and terrible decision making in the final third.
One thing I will admit to is that results either way don't produce the same strong (and persistent) emotions. Gone (temporarily) are the days when Utd's results shaped my entire weekend. I guess this must be some sort of self-defense mechanism or something.
One thing I will admit to is that results either way don't produce the same strong (and persistent) emotions. Gone (temporarily) are the days when Utd's results shaped my entire weekend. I guess this must be some sort of self-defense mechanism or something.
I thought they split the role so Arnold will look over the finances and Murtough the football side. Arnold being his senior, but unlike Woodward not over the whole lot for decisions?
Yeah as opposed to now where we get historically humped by our literal biggest rival and keep the current manager who hasn't won anything of note in his entire managerial career.
Oh and he's has the most time and money in the post Fergie era.
I suppose not out of place on here as there is some really odd posters and odd so called "supporters"
The day I want United to lose regardless of manager is the day I'm done following the sport.
Which part of it is total nonsense? That while I don't ever want us to lose, I understand the line of logic of those who do in extreme circumstances? Or the fact that there are uncomfortable consequences to being the global footballing force that we've become as a result of our sustained success over the years? Please elaborate.
There isn't a right or wrong way to support a football club, especially one with a global reach as ours.
Let's assume that Solskjaer will keep his job if he manages to get top four.
Then answer this question: would you be happy to see us scrape into top four with dreadful performances for the remainder of the season?
For me, that would be absolutely disastrous as I watch football for more than just results. I do not want to see the majority of wins being based on moments; I want to see the team play good football for the majority of the season. Why wouldn't people want that?
A game is 90 minutes. Is it surprising that people don't want to watch 86 minutes of rubbish and 4 minutes of good moments? It is fine here and there, but not when it makes up 95% of the season. If performances were not important, should we not all just watch highlights? I mean, if we are going to see 86 minutes of rubbish in a lot games, we might as well cut all of that out.
This is what some people are concerned about, which is leading to this 'wanting to lose, now'. The truth is, with how good our squad is, the above is actually a very realistic scenario. Our players are superior to the teams outside of the top four and could carry Solskjaer to the top four. We won't get any further, but it could put Solskjaer's tenure on a hamster wheel, where we repeat the same thing every season with almost no entertainment value.
I find this very understandable why people want to lose if we are going to continue this rubbish. If that is what it takes to end Solskjaer's managment, then I would not be against taking that hit. I see it as a beneficial thing for the long term future of the club.
Then answer this question: would you be happy to see us scrape into top four with dreadful performances for the remainder of the season?
For me, that would be absolutely disastrous as I watch football for more than just results. I do not want to see the majority of wins being based on moments; I want to see the team play good football for the majority of the season. Why wouldn't people want that?
A game is 90 minutes. Is it surprising that people don't want to watch 86 minutes of rubbish and 4 minutes of good moments? It is fine here and there, but not when it makes up 95% of the season. If performances were not important, should we not all just watch highlights? I mean, if we are going to see 86 minutes of rubbish in a lot games, we might as well cut all of that out.
This is what some people are concerned about, which is leading to this 'wanting to lose, now'. The truth is, with how good our squad is, the above is actually a very realistic scenario. Our players are superior to the teams outside of the top four and could carry Solskjaer to the top four. We won't get any further, but it could put Solskjaer's tenure on a hamster wheel, where we repeat the same thing every season with almost no entertainment value.
I find this very understandable why people want to lose if we are going to continue this rubbish. If that is what it takes to end Solskjaer's managment, then I would not be against taking that hit. I see it as a beneficial thing for the long term future of the club.
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I suggest you look into a dictionary for the word supporter. Get back to me with your findings.
Anyone (not necessarily you) hoping we lose tomorrow is an absolute joke. End of story.
We’ll lose and Ole will continue regardless he’s here until the summer.
Foreign supporters support us mainly because we were the best team when they were kids. 90% of these supporters wouldn't even be Utd fans now if they were born after the turn of the millennium and you know I'm right. They'd be Chelsea or City fans. That's how it works.
But I have no issue with any Utd fan being from abroad if you actually support the club mate. But anyone wanting to lose the Derby makes you an absolute joke.
Feels like a marshmallow test for adults.
I'm still not sure, whether I pity or envy those who think there is only one solution.
I'm still not sure, whether I pity or envy those who think there is only one solution.
Thats exactly how it works, myself as a kid being a foreigner I started watching United and I feel in love because we were winners and I've been here through all this shitty years and I'll stay here. Theres absolutely no shame to start supporting a club because theyre winning, most kids wont support United right now. Why would they? we are shit. Thats a reality in every sport.
Nobody wants to lose against City, what they want is to get Ole sack, losing to City is just the means to and end.
Supporting a football club is a personal thing. I don't get how some supporters can act as though others aren't worthy of supporting the same club.
With 3 young kids, a fulltime job as well as studying for a degree at university my support for United has changed a bit. I still follow them closely, watch every game but a bad result from a single game doesn't bother me as it used to. Maybe because I'm busy but probably because it's all a bit pointless now under Ole. You really want at least some point in watching United when your personal time is limited. We won't win anything of note, the tactics are naive and there isn't an plan or identity that can make you think we can build towards a better future. He's just treading water now, delaying the inevitable with his self-perserving tactics where he moves away from players like Sancho and Greenwood with his safety net of 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders. There is nothing as damning as following a player like Sancho for a couple of years only to have no clue on how to integrate him into the team. He already has done his number on a 40 million pound van der Beek.
Everyday he spends here now just delays the chance of a rise in fortunes for the club. Everyday he stays hurts the club moving forward. The club is stuck in the past. I wanted Spurs to win last weekend and I want City to win tomorrow. The sooner he and his past it/unqualified coaching staff leave the better.
With 3 young kids, a fulltime job as well as studying for a degree at university my support for United has changed a bit. I still follow them closely, watch every game but a bad result from a single game doesn't bother me as it used to. Maybe because I'm busy but probably because it's all a bit pointless now under Ole. You really want at least some point in watching United when your personal time is limited. We won't win anything of note, the tactics are naive and there isn't an plan or identity that can make you think we can build towards a better future. He's just treading water now, delaying the inevitable with his self-perserving tactics where he moves away from players like Sancho and Greenwood with his safety net of 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders. There is nothing as damning as following a player like Sancho for a couple of years only to have no clue on how to integrate him into the team. He already has done his number on a 40 million pound van der Beek.
Everyday he spends here now just delays the chance of a rise in fortunes for the club. Everyday he stays hurts the club moving forward. The club is stuck in the past. I wanted Spurs to win last weekend and I want City to win tomorrow. The sooner he and his past it/unqualified coaching staff leave the better.
I hope City smash us this weekend. The rot needs to be stopped as soon as possible and our owners aren't people who will see the festering wound unless a whole limb fecking drops off. We're not winning nowt this season anyway and we're going to need a lot more if our clown of a manager survived a 5-0 drubbing by Liverpool where they even had 30mins to show us mercy and toy with us. *cue Top Red Ole cultist rage*
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