Has the first game dampened your excitement for the season?

I was expecting us to have a tough season and more likely tread water or even go backwards than make significant progress. None of the three players we’ve signed will transform us and a lot depended on what else we could sign (which looks like 1 at most).

We didn’t look fit enough on Monday, too many players were sloppy and careless and we completely lost any shape we had. It was a bad day at the office, they’ll be more to come I’m sure but we’ll also playa lot better as well.

We’re a team trying to finish in the top 4, like all other teams in that bracket we’ll have a lot of ups and downs.
 
It’s a better start than last seasons and last season turned out not terrible. Yes the style of play was concerning but we got to give them a little time to find their rhythm. Hopefully they know they got to do better against spurs or they’re going to get smashed.
 
It was an atrocious display of football but positive start to the season with a win as compared to last season. Still a lot of improvement to be done but a win is a win. We move. It was Maguire staying news that has completely ruined my mood. The worst news of our transfer window by far.
 
I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt in the first game. I'm assuming the game plan was based on the previous Wolves manager and his play style. Once the manager changed then EtH probably wasn't sure if he should completely scrap that gameplan and change to what Bournemouth were like previously and it probably ended up being a mish mash of both gameplans and it didn't look good. Spurs will give us a better idea of where we are.
 
No need to overreact. We'll have better and worse games (maybe not worse as game play, but worse outcome). We're not suddenly a great team, we're still building.

I expect a much better performance against spurs.
 
This place is fecked. It's the first game of the season. Calm the feck down. Result is all that matters and it tends to take time to settle into a normal rhythm.

It takes time for players to gel, for system changes to gel, or even for the manager to touch up his system to get the next step. Or even just takes time for players to get match sharpness. Ten Hag has always been brilliant tactically and is quick to adjust what doesn't work, so don't worry. We'll be fine.
Agree with this, but it's extremely worrying to see a midfield of Bruno/Mount/Casemiro, with no good back-up. We are also completely reliant on Höjlund to start producing because Rashford is more or less useless up top.
 
The double blow has crushed all hope of a good season for me.

On the pitch:
  • We looked like strangers in midfield and attack and could not make simple passes
  • Lots of ball recycling rather than head up and playing the pass
  • Zero effort in possession off the ball so the defense and Onana struggled with few options
  • A lot of players didn't seem to understand their role
  • Not enough chasing back and tracking players. As usual, Rashford is too important to work to get the ball back and a number of times he just switched off and walked while Wolves players around him were rushing to join the attack. He was far from the only one though
  • We were outrun again on the field. Even Ole said We are United and noone should be outworking us
All of the above on the field and then within 24 hours of the match it basically feels like all of our transfer business is done. Both McT and Maguire had acceptable offers this summer but it looks like we'll go into the season with this pair - who we've seen for years and are not going to suddenly step up and improve their level this late in their careers.

It feels like we're going to have a tough year. When you compare us to all of the other top four teams most of them already had better squads and have out performed us this window (other than pool)
 
I liked that we bought Onana, very ambivalent about Mount, and I just think Hojlund is a punt. But when I watched the game on Monday, I went very down on this season. If Ten Hag sticks with Bruno/Case/Mount in midfield we are going to suffer and he will too. No chance is that midfield set up right and with Antony (and often Rashford) not offering enough threat up front, I think his whole strategy for the season looks dodgy. I had been hoping the 'we're skint' was a negotiation strategy and that we might go in for Caceido, FDJ, Kane, Amrabat, and/or Orban but if our transfer business really is done then I think we're in the shit.

I'm massively disappointed that Ten Hag has not sought to fix the midfield, which has been mediocre to shocking for however long. He's starting to compound the issue instead of fixing it, to my eyes anyway. I don't fully blame HIM for that. United's executives knew full well what happened when they put Van Gaal in charge of transfers. Ten Hag is even less experienced in recruitment than him and that's becoming very clear. I've kept reading briefs about Murtough doing ETH's job interview and feeling like he was being interviewed by ETH (haha!), and all the stuff about ETH having all this leeway of recruitment and it just shows me that there are still too many clowns in charge.
 
Let's not forget that Mainoo was looking excellent and Amrabaat might also come in to bolster midfield.

I think the long term plan is for Mount to be both cover for Bruno and potentially one shifts wide for big matches.

Personally wouldn't judge this display too much - we're on the same points as City and 2 more than Liverpool and Chelsea.
 
No, not really. I expected a season of tough transition, possibly even harder than last season.

Rivals have strengthened and we're now aiming to implement an ETH system 'proper', so there are bound to be some teething issues as players have to adapt to completely new positions and styles of play.

Remember, half of our squad haven't ever really been coached by what you'd call a "modern tactician", so there's tonnes of work to do before it all becomes muscle-memory.

Plus, we still have a big issue at CF. We're relying on a 21yo to carry us. Currently we're behind the likes of Newcastle, Aston Villa and Brentford (when Toney returns) in the CF department, not to mention out traditional rivals!

I have seen this pattern before though. A new manager comes in, restores morale, steadies the ship...and then all of a sudden the muppets are out in force expecting a tilt at the title. Look at Arteta at Arsenal. It takes 3/4 seasons to implement an overhaul on that size and scale.

For me, a really good season would be another top four finish, a decent cup run, progress into the Champions League Quarter Finals and clear evidence of tactical progression. That's it really. I don't think we can realistically expect more than that
 
If that game happens during the season you call it one of those days and we’re all happy to just get away with the points. It’s the weeks of buildup and looking forward to a new season, and seeing very similar slop which leads to disappointment.

Next game can’t come fast enough for me.
 
I agree with this. I can't see how Bruno+Mount+Casemiro will work. Casemiro is too slow, and he will become slower due to his age. Mount is too similar to Bruno, but worse. If Casemiro was younger and faster, this might work, but not now. And due to the fact that Bruno is the captain and Mount is ETH's (expensive) decision, we are going to see these three many times together. Add Antony (who is also ETH's boy and he is going to get many starts) and our midfield seems suspect.

I don't think it would matter if Casemiro was younger and faster, and I think this system is going to see an awful lot of unfair stick come his way, where he gets criticised to death on places like this because he mysteriously isn't able to cover the ground of 3 players, which literally no midfielder on earth would be able to do, and which is the whole issue with the ridiculous system ETH has decided to deploy since signing Mount.

I've seen a couple of comparisons to how City set up but I don't see how its similar at all. They play a completely different system and also make sure they always have at least one person who will help Rodri do the leg work or occupy the midfield space. Sometimes they have two or three. They also have wide players who are much more withdrawn and less direct than ours who again will fill this void if someone else goes forwards. Their fullbacks will also invert to cover the space when they play with 3 at the back. If anything they overload the middle area to suffocate teams which is the complete opposite of what we are doing.

The rest of your post is exactly my concern. Its a broken system and I'm very worried ETH will persist with it until we either get spanked 6-0 by someone or have such a poor run of results it puts his job under pressure. I don't understand where its come from as all last season he seemed very in tune with what was happening on the pitch and what the team needed to help it. He seems to think Mason Mount is something completely different from what he actually is, which again is just going to lead to him getting ripped apart by our fans when a theme of every game is the opposition running through our midfield after Mount is too weak to win a loose ball or is caught 10 yards ahead of the play.

I mean hopefully I'm wrong (well me and nearly everyone else who watches us) and it somehow comes together, but on the face of it, its just such a ridiculously bad idea I can't possibly see how it will ever work. There has been no sign of our other players adapting to any specific instructions to help plug the problems it creates.

Yep. No improvement in play style and the dumb idea of playing two no.10s in the midfield is something I'm not going to put up with. Eriksen was a bad idea anyways last season and we just bought another one with legs.

I dont know when we will have a management that emphasises on having a solid midfield. That wont get overrun by relegation favorites. feck this shit.

Mount is definitely not an Eriksen with legs, as you will notice from the big gaping hole in our midfield that has only suddenly appeared in pre-season and against Wolves. If we'd signed an Eriksen with legs we'd actually be pretty sorted (well until Casemiro gets sent off for shaking someone's hand too aggressively or something).

I would have to guess Eriksen with legs is what ETH thinks Mount is, but he isn't. He plays much higher up the pitch, doesn't have Eriksen's vision, game reading or passing abilities, or his composure, or his ability to take the ball on the turn and not go backwards/sideways constantly, or his positional awareness, or his balding hair. He literally has none of the things Eriksen is good at and also plays in a completely different position, which is why its such a fecking baffling plan to replace one with the other. It'd be like swapping Shaw for McTominay and then ignoring that your left back is terrible at being a left back and is also stood in midfield for some reason.

Signing Mount made no sense to me, and now its become clear how ETH plans to use him, it makes even less sense, despite making no sense to start with. Not only is it not solving any of our problems but its created a much bigger problem than any of the ones we already had. We now have to sign another midfielder to replace Mason Mount, who isn't a midfielder, but has been signed to replace Fred and play ahead of Eriksen, who are both midfielders. An absolute needless mess.

What is ETH planning to do now when Casemiro can't play btw? That'll be a fun watch (for anyone who doesn't support Man Utd).


Side note: TBH the idea Eriksen is a problem in our team is one of the most weirdly out of touch views ever to appear on this site imo. Someone decided he can't play in midfield presumably based on how he used to play for Tottenham about 10 years ago, and others just hopped on the bandwagon, completely ignoring that Eriksen + Casemiro was outperforming almost every other midfield in the league for a good chunk of last season, despite both being ridiculously overworked due to our fixtures and lack of other reliable squad options.
 
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It's obviously way too early to draw any conclusions. If things look significantly different in the next couple of games, then it's just water under the bridge and nothing much to think about at all.

But whatever impact on expectations a single game does and should have is clearly to the negative side. It was a worryingly poor performance. So I guess it's basically one incremental step in the direction of the point where you'd start being seriously worried.

So, some people here should have a bit of patience. While others need to face that "the points are the only thing that matters" is only a viable attitude if the points keep on coming. If we continue playing like we did on Monday, they won't. Those 3 points were every bit as lucky and undeserved as the 3 we got against Brighton in Round 2 in 20/21.
 
I was really excited prior to Monday nights game, but I felt miserable at the final whistle.

As for the season ahead, I’m still pretty excited. I think when Rasmus is in and Rashford is on the left it will give us more purpose and Mount will settle in and the team will be ok.

We’re still some way from challenging for the title and the takeover can’t come soon enough and along with it some real investment.

We can’t play that badly again and we can’t afford to against the better teams because I don’t want us getting slaughtered again like last season against our bitter rivals.

I think the Wolves game and performance will lead to a positive reaction. Similar in a way to the Brighton and Brentford games last season, but this time we have points to show for the shitshow. Why do we have to start every season so slowly and so hesitantly?
 
If Wolves play like that, they will not be in danger of relegation to be fair.
That's what I was thinking. Their quality on the counter attacking play was very good. United had a new keeper and Mount instead of Erikson. That wasn't going to move the dial much. Hopefully Martial and Hojlund are not too far away.
 
Side note: TBH the idea Eriksen is a problem in our team is one of the most weirdly out of touch views ever to appear on this site imo. Someone decided he can't play in midfield presumably based on how he used to play for Tottenham about 10 years ago, and others just hopped on the bandwagon, completely ignoring that Eriksen + Casemiro was outperforming almost every other midfield in the league for a good chunk of last season, despite both being ridiculously overworked due to our fixtures and lack of other reliable squad options.

You've just explained to yourself why we did need to sign an alternative to Eriksen.
 
It was more of the same really that we hoped we had seen the last of, it's to do the bare minimum when your opponents don't have the firepower to hurt you but it's also how you end up conceding 6 against City and 7 against Liverpool, it would suggest nothing has been learned. To be honest it was a performance that could have been from any stage of the post Fergie era which is depressing as I hoped Ten Hag was moving us away from that. I do have faith though he'll read the riot act and get a response against Spurs this weekend.
 
We failed to sell Williams, Maguire, Scott, Bailly, Henderson, Martial - that is inexcusable imo.

A tonne of wages and squad places wasted.
 
I don't understand why we can't play with a single holding midfielder and 2 attacking midfielders in Bruno and Mount. City have De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva who are hardly defensive powerhouses. The difference is that they control the ball for 70% of the game, which allows them to get forwards and create, whereas we have the ball about 45% of the time and this means that they're expected to track back, which doesn't always happen. They also have John Stones stepping out of the back 4 to help Rodri when they don't have the ball.

We need to start playing this way, otherwise you get bang average teams just strolling through the midfield once they get past Casemiro.
 
It’s made me angry that we’re still relying on the likes of McTominay after years of mediocrity. We keep persisting with a core of players that’s shown for years they aren’t good enough yet here we are still giving them minutes.
 
I don't understand why we can't play with a single holding midfielder and 2 attacking midfielders in Bruno and Mount. City have De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva who are hardly defensive powerhouses. The difference is that they control the ball for 70% of the game, which allows them to get forwards and create, whereas we have the ball about 45% of the time and this means that they're expected to track back, which doesn't always happen. They also have John Stones stepping out of the back 4 to help Rodri when they don't have the ball.

We need to start playing this way, otherwise you get bang average teams just strolling through the midfield once they get past Casemiro.
It takes a while to adapt. Look at Peps first season in England and how the counter attack killer City time and time again
 
No, not really. I expected a season of tough transition, possibly even harder than last season.

Rivals have strengthened and we're now aiming to implement an ETH system 'proper', so there are bound to be some teething issues as players have to adapt to completely new positions and styles of play.

Remember, half of our squad haven't ever really been coached by what you'd call a "modern tactician", so there's tonnes of work to do before it all becomes muscle-memory.

Plus, we still have a big issue at CF. We're relying on a 21yo to carry us. Currently we're behind the likes of Newcastle, Aston Villa and Brentford (when Toney returns) in the CF department, not to mention out traditional rivals!

I have seen this pattern before though. A new manager comes in, restores morale, steadies the ship...and then all of a sudden the muppets are out in force expecting a tilt at the title. Look at Arteta at Arsenal. It takes 3/4 seasons to implement an overhaul on that size and scale.

For me, a really good season would be another top four finish, a decent cup run, progress into the Champions League Quarter Finals and clear evidence of tactical progression. That's it really. I don't think we can realistically expect more than that

Good post. Realistic... I suppose I just expect much more from Man Utd, just tired of a decade of poor club (corporate, signings, managers..) management. That's where the frustration lies. But we kept working on Monday and we won, those are tremendous qualities.. not too long ago we would have been turned over in such a match, it's taken a couple of days for me to reflect upon that, and this is important because fighting for the club is why I love Man Utd. And it's why I don't accept players who don't try, I have no time for them.

ETH and the coaching staff will learn so much from that game, so I don't expect such a performance against Spurs. We will be much better, a very good game for us in many ways.

But, but... we still have to make changes. We do. Some players aren't showing up. Why can't Sancho just work much harder? He's too busy trying to be Dennis Bergkamp... just work your socks off for 90minutes for a few games, how about that? Then take it from there.
 
Yes. My excitement for this season was mostly about our style of play. I was expecting us to be more calm and composed, but with the Mount signing and ETH whole best transition team statement as well as what we’ve seen on the pitch so far, my excitement has reduced
 
No. We can’t play any worse than we did on Monday, and we still won. I fully trust in Ten Hag to improve it and give us a good season. After all, the 99’ team started by scraping a 2-2 draw at home to Leicester, the 08’ team with a 0-0 draw at home to Reading, the 09’ team with a 1-1 draw at home to Newcastle, and so on.

Let’s just see how we do away at Tottenham and Arsenal, because the acid test for this season is really to improve our away record against top half teams while maintaining our great home record.
 
You've just explained to yourself why we did need to sign an alternative to Eriksen.

But we haven't signed one yet. We've sold the player who stood in for him last season instead.

Mount isn't a stand in or alternative to Eriksen imo, which is what I explained in the rest of the post you quoted.
 
I don't understand why we can't play with a single holding midfielder and 2 attacking midfielders in Bruno and Mount. City have De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva who are hardly defensive powerhouses. The difference is that they control the ball for 70% of the game, which allows them to get forwards and create, whereas we have the ball about 45% of the time and this means that they're expected to track back, which doesn't always happen. They also have John Stones stepping out of the back 4 to help Rodri when they don't have the ball.

We need to start playing this way, otherwise you get bang average teams just strolling through the midfield once they get past Casemiro.

Because there's no movement in midfield and AWB and Varane aren't able to progress the ball. The set up ETH wants to play with isn't necessarily the issue, it's how they play in that set up. Lack of intensity, not used to their changing roles, maybe a lack of awareness as well especially in Casemiros case last game. Countless times Onana couldn't get rid of the ball and only had AWB as only option who they purposely left open, and we needed Casemiro to get open or Bruno to drop back to help out as well. Honestly I'm not too concerned about the season but it's going to take some time for everybody to get used to what they're supposed to do.
 
If Wolves play like that, they will not be in danger of relegation to be fair.

Yeah. In fact, just seeing their starting lineup put a dent in the universal gloom now surrounding them. They may have lost good players without anyone coming in, as well as suffered a disruptive departure of a high-profile manager who showed he was able to turn them around last season - but in the end, they do still actually have quite a lot of good players. More so than some other teams who are viewed with more optimism than they are.
 
I don't understand why we can't play with a single holding midfielder and 2 attacking midfielders in Bruno and Mount. City have De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva who are hardly defensive powerhouses. The difference is that they control the ball for 70% of the game, which allows them to get forwards and create, whereas we have the ball about 45% of the time and this means that they're expected to track back, which doesn't always happen. They also have John Stones stepping out of the back 4 to help Rodri when they don't have the ball.

We need to start playing this way, otherwise you get bang average teams just strolling through the midfield once they get past Casemiro.

Last season City were playing Rodri, De Bruyne and Gundogan in midfield with Bernardo on the wing. But anyway Bernardo is far more conservative

Yeah. In fact, just seeing their starting lineup put a dent in the universal gloom now surrounding them. They may have lost good players without anyone coming in, as well as suffered a disruptive departure of a high-profile manager who showed he was able to turn them around last season - but in the end, they do still actually have quite a lot of good players. More so than some other teams who are viewed with more optimism than they are.

Yeah, compare their starting line-up to Everton's in the first game for example.
 
But we haven't signed one yet. We've sold the player who stood in for him last season instead.

Mount isn't a stand in or alternative to Eriksen imo, which is what I explained in the rest of the post you quoted.

Well if you think Fred is a similar enough player to act as a stand in for Eriksen than I’m struggling to see the basis for claiming that Mount is too radically different to Eriksen to also be an option instead of him.

The way I see it (and presumably ETH does) Mount could potentially bring a bit of what does and a bit of what Eriksen does to the team.

Anyhoo. Your mind is made up and won’t be changed. So this is pointless. I’ll leave you to it.
 
Well if you think Fred is a similar enough player to act as a stand in for Eriksen than I’m struggling to see the basis for claiming that Mount is too radically different to Eriksen to also be an option instead of him.

The way I see it (and presumably ETH does) Mount could potentially bring a bit of what does and a bit of what Eriksen does to the team.

Anyhoo. Your mind is made up and won’t be changed. So this is pointless. I’ll leave you to it.

Fred is/was used a central midfielder. Eriksen is used as a central midfielder. Mount isn't a central midfielder.

Fred made over 50 appearances in central midfield last season. At least one of Eriksen or Fred started EVERY game where fit if I remember rightly.

I don't think it's more complicated than that.

If you think replacing a midfielder with an extra no10 will work fair enough, but I would guess you would have quite a bit of trouble explaining how, without an awful lot of "hopefully ETH knows better than us" to fill in the logic gaps.

In my experience of watching football, generally when a manager comes up with a crazy idea that seems to make no sense, it turns out to be a crazy idea that makes no sense, and not a stroke of genius. This applied even to the likes of Ferguson (e.g. Moving Alan Smith to midfield so Roy Keane could play as a CB, Rio Ferdinand the holding midfielder, etc.). The difference is you can get away with the occasional maniacle idea if you're already at the level you need/want to be at and can easily fix it again if it doesn't work.
 
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Let‘s all remember building a team that can challenge takes time, especially when other teams are strengthening madly.

I feel dampened a bit, yes, but I am excited for the next game. We have a lot to look forward to.
 
That's what I was thinking. Their quality on the counter attacking play was very good. United had a new keeper and Mount instead of Erikson. That wasn't going to move the dial much. Hopefully Martial and Hojlund are not too far away.

I think O'Neill is a very good manager, and may well keep Wolves up, but watching the game I thought that when they tried to play out of defence, they looked vulnerable, we managed to win the ball a few times but weren't good enough to take those opportunities, and they missed at least four goal scoring opportunities.
I think we will improve, we looked so off the pace, physically, technically and structurally, but every player, possibly excepting Onana and Wan Bissaka, will need to improve their own game quite a bit.
 
I’m hoping that legs being gone for this fixture can be explained by a severe training regimen that will pay off massively as the season wears on.
 
Fred is/was used a central midfielder. Eriksen is used as a central midfielder. Mount isn't a central midfielder.

Fred made over 50 appearances in central midfield last season. At least one of Eriksen or Fred started EVERY game where fit if I remember rightly.

I don't think it's more complicated than that.

If you think replacing a midfielder with an extra no10 will work fair enough, but I would guess you would have quite a bit of trouble explaining how, without an awful lot of "hopefully ETH knows better than us" to fill in the logic gaps.

In my experience of watching football, generally when a manager comes up with a crazy idea that seems to make no sense, it turns out to be a crazy idea that makes no sense, and not a stroke of genius. This applied even to the likes of Ferguson (e.g. Moving Alan Smith to midfield so Roy Keane could play as a CB, Rio Ferdinand the holding midfielder, etc.). The difference is you can get away with the occasional maniacle idea if you're already at the level you need/want to be at and can easily fix it again if it doesn't work.

Considering Eriksen played as a 10 for most of his career so far I’m finding your absolute certainty that it’s completely impossible for another 10 to make the same transition also quite interesting. But I said I’d leave you to it so I will now.
 
Yes. My excitement for this season was mostly about our style of play. I was expecting us to be more calm and composed, but with the Mount signing and ETH whole best transition team statement as well as what we’ve seen on the pitch so far, my excitement has reduced

I don't think the style that EtH is trying to implement will be particularly calm, in my head he's going to be more Klopp's rock and roll to Pep's classical (as Klopp put it himself).

It's clear that we're aiming to be a bit more true to that style of play this season (last season was much more pragmatic), and it'll take some time to adjust still. The biggest issue on Monday night is that, for it to work, the team need to be on the same page with regards to pressing and transitional moves. Against Wolves we often had the right idea, but made a mess of the execution - players were pressing individually which allowed Wolves to break through (so many of their attacks could have been shut down had another player joined the press slightly earlier, or at all in the case of Rashford and Garnacho), and even then we regularly won the ball back in dangerous positions with Wolves off balance, but we didn't take advantage, often with a poor ball or other players not reacting to the turnover.

That coherency will improve over the season hopefully, which will lead to us being much better at controlling matches, as well as being much more threatening.
 
Considering Eriksen played as a 10 for most of his career so far I’m finding your absolute certainty that it’s completely impossible for another 10 to make the same transition also quite interesting. But I said I’d leave you to it so I will now.

Its a fair point I guess, but Eriksen has completely different qualities to Mount as a player and always has. Even at Tottenham he would play a lot of his football from much deeper than a traditional no10 due to his vision and ability to dictate/pick out passes from the middle of the pitch. There's examples of similar styles of player making the same switch or being comfortable in either role. Paul Scholes is probably the prime example.

Mount is not that type of player, is he? Unless you've been watching a different player to the one I have for Chelsea/England, but I think you watch enough football to know this is the case, and to know the 14+ page thread on here discussing this exact issue isn't based on nothing or a knee jerk reaction to one game.
 
Fred is/was used a central midfielder. Eriksen is used as a central midfielder. Mount isn't a central midfielder.

Fred made over 50 appearances in central midfield last season. At least one of Eriksen or Fred started EVERY game where fit if I remember rightly.

I don't think it's more complicated than that.

If you think replacing a midfielder with an extra no10 will work fair enough, but I would guess you would have quite a bit of trouble explaining how, without an awful lot of "hopefully ETH knows better than us" to fill in the logic gaps.

In my experience of watching football, generally when a manager comes up with a crazy idea that seems to make no sense, it turns out to be a crazy idea that makes no sense, and not a stroke of genius. This applied even to the likes of Ferguson (e.g. Moving Alan Smith to midfield so Roy Keane could play as a CB, Rio Ferdinand the holding midfielder, etc.). The difference is you can get away with the occasional maniacle idea if you're already at the level you need/want to be at and can easily fix it again if it doesn't work.
Amen to this.

LVG (another so-called genius) was the biggest culprit, in particular I liked Rooney the striker playing in midfield so Di Maria the midfielder can play in attack. Or putting Nick Powell to save our UCL campaign after he had played 0 minutes that season.

ETH last year against Liverpool away channelled his inner Van Gaal when he played his striker Weghorst as No.10, so his best No. 10 Bruno can play as a left forward in order for his best left forward Rashford to play as a striker. We lost 7-0 but it was an interesting change of positions of three players so that all of them can play in a position they are not that good (to be fair, Weghorst was bad anywhere on pitch).

I am with you here. If something looks that it does not make sense, it usually turns out to not make sense. There are some rare exceptions (Stones in midfield looked weird before it looked good, but Pep essentially got eliminated in UCL year after year by doing some weird things when it mattered most). Usually, weird is bad.
 
Amen to this.

LVG (another so-called genius) was the biggest culprit, in particular I liked Rooney the striker playing in midfield so Di Maria the midfielder can play in attack. Or putting Nick Powell to save our UCL campaign after he had played 0 minutes that season.

ETH last year against Liverpool away channelled his inner Van Gaal when he played his striker Weghorst as No.10, so his best No. 10 Bruno can play as a left forward in order for his best left forward Rashford to play as a striker. We lost 7-0 but it was an interesting change of positions of three players so that all of them can play in a position they are not that good (to be fair, Weghorst was bad anywhere on pitch).

I am with you here. If something looks that it does not make sense, it usually turns out to not make sense. There are some rare exceptions (Stones in midfield looked weird before it looked good, but Pep essentially got eliminated in UCL year after year by doing some weird things when it mattered most). Usually, weird is bad.

LVG was the king of crazy random ideas. The only saving grace for him is he'd had so many that none would ever least more than a couple of weeks before being replaced by the next one.

If we actually sign a midfielder I'll be less concerned as then we aren't leaving ourselves crippled in case the Mount experiment fails, if we don't then we're essentially stuck with it for the whole season which I very strongly suspect wont go well, and it'll also be extremely, well, interesting to see what our midfield looks like when Casemiro can't play.
 
Well I'm not sure about the bolded part, Casemiro/Martinez/Antony were given some time to settle in and did it quite nicely.
The problem, players who might be able to make it to top which we've bought since ETH joined are Martinez, Casemiro and Onana (from what I've seen so far). Big, big question marks over Hojlund, honestly I don't want to sound pessimistic but I see nothing special in that guy so he gets the benefit of the doubt. Antony, the less said the better.

I really don't know how to classify Mount. On individual level I rate him quite high and would put him in tier 1, I just don't know how he fits us.

I don't get our transfer strategy to be honest. On one hand we can't afford top tier striker but we could afford Antony for close to 100m last season. We laugh at Chelsea for spending hundreds of millions but they are actually buying players that we should be after (if we could afford them), but we are happy to splash 80m for totally unproven striker who didn't even play full season as main striker? I don't see any logic here. Maybe the problem is with ownership mess.

I don't think Antony's best ability will be enough to be an effective winger for us, so even if he did settle nicely (and kudos for him), I'm not excited by it.
Casemiro and Martinez - well they just HAD to show good ability early into their first season in England, and luckily for us they did. that's what I meant-

With how the squad currently is, we can't afford our signings to only become good in the 2nd or 3rd season, as will happen with many of them because this is how things normally are.