Has political correctness actually gone mad?

In the deck you shared, they outline three key variables actually (the third being 'promoting justice') but none of them has been quantified. If you just look at the deck in isolation, these ethical factors have been given more weightage over the CDC's own models without any evidence which does suggest it's driven by a bunch of people's opinions.

Yes, your definition of justice and theirs is different. You think it is a bullshit PC word, but it is a concept validated with quantitative data, explained in their commentary at various points. They've just used one word which triggered people, so I gave you the actual meaning of it; it relates to the wider effects of this specific pandemic. Those things have been distributed unequally, and there's correlations between the historial medical inequities and the current non-medical inequities of this particular pandemic, which demonstrably apply to some groups more than others. The data on that front is really straightforward.

And conclusively their analysis does not say that non-medical reasons take precedence over medical reasons. They've said that on the "science" side of things, both groups are on essentially an even footing, so the other factors then help decide how to split them. The reason for that is because minimising harm is not a binary choice, what you think is the right medical priority and what others - experts - think is the right medical priority is different. That is not PC gone mad that is a normal part of evaluating compliated situations with imperfect evidence and a variety of fast-moving external factors that influence the forecasting.

It's all good to disagree with their opinion but no it doesn't fit into that little box that the Twitter commentator would like it to.
 
I have no problem with that if after a bombing we can say "It had to be muslin"

This thread's capacity to surpass itself never ceases to amaze me. I thought VP had it sewn up with his 'PC is killing people' and within a day his crown is under serious threat.
 
This thread's capacity to surpass itself never ceases to amaze me. I thought VP had it sewn up with his 'PC is killing people' and within a day his crown is under serious threat.
i have no idea who VP is and why he said that
all i'm saying is that most people aren't against discrimination, they are against certain kinds of discrimination.
if your group is not in the "protection against discrimination" list, there's no problem
I'm a white, catholic, italian descendant, latin male, so i guess I have no right to say "hey, buddy, what is it? discriminating is good or it's bad?"
then i will be told to "shut up you white-catholic-italian descendant-latin-discriminating-son of a bitch!"
 
i have no idea who VP is and why he said that
all i'm saying is that most people aren't against discrimination, they are against certain kinds of discrimination.
if your group is not in the "protection against discrimination" list, there's no problem
I'm a white, catholic, italian descendant, latin male, so i guess I have no right to say "hey, buddy, what is it? discriminating is good or it's bad?"
then i will be told to "shut up you white-catholic-italian descendant-latin-discriminating-son of a bitch!"
My dad would have jumped at the chance to discriminate against three of those four adjectives, and I'm not sure he'd have considered you completely white either to be honest.

Then again he was born in 1914.
 
My dad would have jumped at the chance to discriminate against three of those four adjectives, and I'm not sure he'd have considered you completely white either to be honest.

Then again he was born in 1914.
Haha, I know the type. And if he knew i use hair conditioner he would have question my “manliness”
 
I’m serious about being against all kinds of discrimination
Can’t be that hard to believe
Fair enough then. Though perhaps assuming a bombing must be by muslims is slightly more severe than correctly pointing out most Italian news networks tend to favor well endowed women as anchors?
 
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There is no quantitative data presented relating to the "Ethics" portion of that document. Zilch. It is entirely subjective.

They've said within the report 'Initially vaccinating age ≥65 in Phase 1b averts between 0.5-6.5% more deaths, depending on the model, compared to targeting high risk adults or essential workers'. Both groups are clearly not on an even footing looking at that data in their own document. Yet in their little noughts and crosses chart they scored each category as 3/3 for "Science". So they ignore their own data.

No you just misinterpret it because it is outside of your field of expertise and you seem unaware of why the document was created and how it was used. It was a document used in a discussion, with summaries described in more detail among the members, and with the visuals just there to give people simple indicators of the data. It wasn't a polished corporate document with thoughtful graphics etc. because that wasn't the purpose it served. That would have been time wasted on non essential work, when they have too much essential work as it is. Which clearly you found puzzling because it's an unfamiliar way of working.

The quantitative data supporting the inequities underpinning those decisions have been widely analysed in the public domain. They didn't walk through them again in that document because everyone already had a firm understanding of the data. This was about the implications of that data, and what approach to take given those implications. Not something to justify the analysis of that data to a bunch of Internet people.

Minimising death is not the only health criteria they considered. I don't think you've actually read the document. You've just cherry-picked findings to support your belief. Here, I can do that too.

Initially vaccinating high-risk adults or essential workers in Phase 1b averts approximately 1–3% more infections, compared to targeting age ≥65
 
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you are soooo into me. What is it? My hairy legs or my beer belly? I bet is my belly

btw i don’t remember using that derogative term, although I agree that some people are snowflakes

You're desperate for attention, aren't you? Your entire posting style screams "look at me, I'm so wacky and edgy!" It's like @Mr Pigeon, except not interesting, funny or insightful. And I'm definitely into @Mr Pigeon.
 
You're desperate for attention, aren't you? Your entire posting style screams "look at me, I'm so wacky and edgy!" It's like @Mr Pigeon, except not interesting, funny or insightful. And I'm definitely into @Mr Pigeon.

If i were desperate for attention i would have post a pick of my humongous cock and balls, but no, modesty and a certain sense of decorum, stops me from doing so.

Btw, anyone that posts in a forum wants to be noticed. Else, why bother to write an opinion.

And maybe i’m not as interesting, funny or insightful as a standard poster, but i lived under a dictatorship, something 90 percent of caftards hasn’t experienced. And when i see posts that lightly talk about an ideology that always ends in tirany i want to say that is wrong. I get that i don’t always know how to do it, but as someone said: the only thing necessary for the evil to triumph is that good men do nothing”.
 
And maybe i’m not as interesting, funny or insightful as a standard poster, but i lived under a dictatorship, something 90 percent of caftards hasn’t experienced. And when i see posts that lightly talk about an ideology that always ends in tirany i want to say that is wrong. I get that i don’t always know how to do it, but as someone said: the only thing necessary for the evil to triumph is that good men do nothing”.

Yeah... you lived under a right-wing dictatorship, and yet you feel that experience gives you special insight into left-wing ideologies.
 
You're desperate for attention, aren't you? Your entire posting style screams "look at me, I'm so wacky and edgy!" It's like @Mr Pigeon, except not interesting, funny or insightful. And I'm definitely into @Mr Pigeon.
You and me, nimic. We're gonna change the world one day.


Btw, anyone that posts in a forum wants to be noticed. Else, why bother to write an opinion.
I was like you once. I thought that the Caf could be my personal audience and they would marvel at my splendor. But then I quickly found out that some of the members on the site are scholars and professional writers/comedians. So I started posting like a normal person.

Yes, this is me being normal.
 
Yeah... you lived under a right-wing dictatorship, and yet you feel that experience gives you special insight into left-wing ideologies.
There are no good dictatorships

left or right are the same. But leftists try to tell us that Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Mao, Lenin were good, when the truth is that they brought a lot of suffering to millions of people. As the right dictatorships did.
 
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You and me, nimic. We're gonna change the world one day.

i dont think that Nimic wants to change the world with you, he wants to 69 with you

I was like you once. I thought that the Caf could be my personal audience and they would marvel at my splendor. But then I quickly found out that some of the members on the site are scholars and professional writers/comedians. So I started posting like a normal person.

Yes, this is me being normal.

I was like you once too, when i started posting here back in 2006 i got all the attention you can get
some people liked me, many thought i was an idiot, but i stayed till one day that i got tired of this place
now that i'm in lockdown and have a lot of time in front of the computer i decided to return and see how things are going

not too good
 
Btw, anyone that posts in a forum wants to be noticed. Else, why bother to write an opinion.

To discuss things with other people and learn from their perspectives and experiences? I think your experience that many of us have no concept of adds valuable insight, personally. But isn't this more of a forum for discussion than an auditorium for our views?
 
To discuss things with other people and learn from their perspectives and experiences? I think your experience that many of us have no concept of adds valuable insight, personally. But isn't this more of a forum for discussion than an auditorium for our views?
indeed, and i've been taught a lot and when i was i thanked it and i said so

and to discuss someone has to read your post and answer it

cheers mate
 
2nd point is a treat from this university that bravely corrects the lamestream media lefty PC narrative




preach

 
I want to get a load of art critics drunk enough to get feisty and have them debate the surrealist intent in PJW's grated cheddar posts. I think it's arguably genius.
 
2nd point is a treat from this university that bravely corrects the lamestream media lefty PC narrative




preach



Interestingly enough Lee specifically requested statues not to be erected of people like himself after he had surrended.

 
Dear Muslima

Stop whining, will you. Yes, yes, I know you had your genitals mutilated with a razor blade, and ... yawn ... don't tell me yet again, I know you aren't allowed to drive a car, and you can't leave the house without a male relative, and your husband is allowed to beat you, and you'll be stoned to death if you commit adultery. But stop whining, will you. Think of the suffering culture warriors have to put up with.

Only this week I heard of one, he calls himself Richard Dawkins, and do you know what happened to him? Someone wished him Happy Holidays. I am not exaggerating. They really did. They wished him Happy Holidays. Of course he responded with Merry Christmas, and of course everyone was happy with that, but even so ...

And you, Muslima, think you have anything to complain about! For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin.
 
Outrage in Denmark, as a white actor (Nikolaj Lie Kaas) has been chosen to voice the black lead character in the Danish version of Pixar's new animated movie 'Soul'. The character is voiced by Jamie Foxx in the original. Obviously there are more white actors in Denmark, but apparently black people have been cast for some other roles in the translated version - just not the main part.

What say you? Legitimate criticism or woke silliness? Does Hollywood whitewashing extend to voice acting as well?
 
Political correctness goes mad when being courteous is more important than being factual.

Treating people with respect and dignity is one thing but to prioritise 'muh feelings' over facts is the hallmark of a society that has 'gone mad.'

I also don't think it is dignified towards and individual or groups to tell them what they want to hear, instead of being honest.

Do you have an example?
 
Outrage in Denmark, as a white actor (Nikolaj Lie Kaas) has been chosen to voice the black lead character in the Danish version of Pixar's new animated movie 'Soul'. The character is voiced by Jamie Foxx in the original. Obviously there are more white actors in Denmark, but apparently black people have been cast for some other roles in the translated version - just not the main part.

What say you? Legitimate criticism or woke silliness? Does Hollywood whitewashing extend to voice acting as well?
Who gives a shit? Anne Boleyn was played by a black actress on the last page. If you can carry the part off well enough, who cares?
 
Outrage in Denmark, as a white actor (Nikolaj Lie Kaas) has been chosen to voice the black lead character in the Danish version of Pixar's new animated movie 'Soul'. The character is voiced by Jamie Foxx in the original. Obviously there are more white actors in Denmark, but apparently black people have been cast for some other roles in the translated version - just not the main part.

What say you? Legitimate criticism or woke silliness? Does Hollywood whitewashing extend to voice acting as well?
He's hardly doing a live-action MLK biopic, is he? And even if he was, as stupid as it would be, it's just acting.

It's acting, on top of that it's voice-acting and on top of that, it's fiction. Triple who cares.