Oh man I just clicked play on a video with the words "Ben Shapiro" in the title, this is going to be my Youtube suggestions for the next six months
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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well, that is the crux of the political disagreement.
They think that putting a gay couple on the cake is potentially infringing on the right to freedom of religion if the business owner has a religious disagreement with gay marriage, as the decoration is an expression rather than a simple production of a cake.
Essentially it is a matter of perspective and consideration of whose rights take precedence over the other. The right generally fall on the side of the business owner, the left on the side of the customer in this scenario.
With hosting, assuming that their claim of victimisation is true (big if), it would be more similar to refusing to sell a pre-made cake to someone, rather than refusing to make one.
I always think it's interesting how both Shapiro and Peterson have incredibly high, whiny voices, and are always essentially whining with their already whiny voices...
Yet people who oppose their whining get called whiners. Strange times.
Political discourse is in the gutter, in general. Very much Red Vs Blue, too many 'zingers', snarky tweets, victim complexes and bad faith discussions from all sides.
The internet was a massive mistake!
I do like Secular Talk, along with Jimmy Dore he is the only Young Turks associated channel I still pay any attention to.
Yeah I like Kyle. Wish he’d stop the impersonations/voices though as they’re not good
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...-student-was-told-to-remove-a-feck-nazis-sign
can't even take a shit on the floor anymore
Floor shitters are not a protected group?
What a time to be alive.
Oh man
I've been blackout drunk before, never done that.
You might, and I stress might, be a decent human being. That's probably why.
how can you be so sure?
I laughed when I read this. But I've just seen the Tom Jones/Cerys Matthews version on the telly and it is rather creepier than the version I remember.
Eddie Papazoni
What a lady.
"The employee, who appeared to be flabbergasted by the entire incident, apologized profusely — but the transgender woman was having none of the clerk's apology."
Sounds like a huge twunt who wanted to create a scene at all costs tbh
Sounds like a huge twunt who wanted to create a scene at all costs tbh
Absolute unit.
Aggressive as feck too. Videos like that do make you sympathise with women who are worried about their shared spaces.
Aggressive as feck too. Videos like that do make you sympathise with women who are worried about their shared spaces.
I can’t imagine how hard it would be to be transgender and given the comments in here, it would be a nightmare.
Indeed, I’m not surprised by the comments in here, but disappointed considering I expected better from a couple posters who I have a lot of respect for.
I think most 'Normies' would be. Not everyone is as tuned into current events and trends in social change as those invested in it.
Basically, there is a line between being forceful in driving social change and raising awareness of issues in an assertive, but patient way to those with no apparent ill will, and this type of outrage.
What will come of it, really? The clerk might lose his job, but most will react the way people in this thread have.
Did you watch the video? The "victim" totally over-reacted and created a situation where she was the only aggressor as everybody else tried to appease her.
Sadly sometimes people will get somebody's gender wrong by accident, even without then issue of transgenderism and gender identities. I couldn't be arsed to waste money on haircuts at Uni so other than the year where I shared a house with a fellow punk and we'd shave each others heads with the exception of the mohawk I spent a good few years with increasingly long hair often with the mohican or psycho quiff pulled back in a ponytail and would occasionally have someone mistakenly address me as a lass if they approached me from behind. It's something you laugh off, not lose your shit over unless you are actually looking for a fight.
No way should the clerk lose their job, his apology was more than the aggressor here deserved. To be honest the police should be hauling her in for disturbing the peace and criminal damage.
Sadly sometimes people will get somebody's gender wrong by accident, even without then issue of transgenderism and gender identities. I couldn't be arsed to waste money on haircuts at Uni so other than the year where I shared a house with a fellow punk and we'd shave each others heads with the exception of the mohawk I spent a good few years with increasingly long hair often with the mohican or psycho quiff pulled back in a ponytail and would occasionally have someone mistakenly address me as a lass if they approached me from behind. It's something you laugh off, not lose your shit over unless you are actually looking for a fight.
No way should the clerk lose their job, his apology was more than the aggressor here deserved. To be honest the police should be hauling her in for disturbing the peace and criminal damage.
What comments are you taking issue with in this instance?
Or to put it another way, should being transgender absolve someone of criticism when they’re caught on video being an aggressive dickhead?
Absolutely. I don't care if somebody 'misgenders' you, you do not have the right to physically threaten or abuse them. You are not put on a pedestal, her actions were an utter disgrace and the whole 'I'll take you outside and show you a sir' comment just totally abhorrent. You don't get the right to act like a thug just because you're transgender, smashing over shop stuff and scaring people in a store just because they refused to use your preferred pronoun shows a total lack of mental stability. Not really safe to be in public, is she?
Apparently the same person.
Shocked. Violent thug gives lessons in how to be a violent thug.
Clearly mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed near the public unless she can learn to control her aggression.
I think you are responding to my post? Apologies if not.
I did, and I agree that she was the aggressor and was in the wrong- my argument was that she could make her point in a more diplomatic (but not entirely passive) way, because she comes out of an interaction where most people can picture themselves in the clerks shoes and see her as just being an arsehole.
In fairness, you are likely secure in who you are, at least in your gender, so it is something you can laugh at. She is probably insecure about her ability to pass as who she wants to be and cannot see the funny side. I don't think that justifies her outburst and smashing up the store over an apparently innocent error, but it's not something I imagine she could laugh off easily like you or I can.
I agree that the clerk doesn't deserve any further action taken, I am just stating that this is a possibility if there is a mob response to demand it.
Tbf there probably is some genuine mental illness there, considering her career you’d have to think PTSD is fairly likely. And that’s not even taking into account the whole gender dysphoria thing.
Still, though, that is fairly unhinged behaviour. And will obviously feel far more threatening coming from a six foot plus, biological male.
Pretty much, but you'll get people who think that kind of behaviour is a justified response, or will even encourage it.
And yeah, I mean she's built like a brick shit house, has military training, and is clearly aggressive as hell. Was this the same one that threatened Ben Shapiro with physical harm in an interview? Any sensible person would be scared of being in the same sphere as her. If you have to revert to physical violence whenever your identity is threatened, you are not safe to be around the public. I imagine this is something which has happened numerous times and this is just the one that has been recorded and uploaded.
But wouldn't that apply to most people who are transgender ? Thankfully most of them don't go around behaving the way she does. The only pronoun she deserves is 'twat'.
I apologize for my post, was trying to make a joke.
I can imagine, actually I cant, being misgendered is aweful, however, I think in this particular case it wasnt malicious and her reaction was abit over the top.
Though I suppose that trans people, just like all other people, can be cnuts sometimes.
Her behaviour wasn't great but I'm always wary of labeling things as overreacting, even if that is how it appears from my perspective. Walk in my shoes type of thing.
A little passive aggression from somebody who regularly feels victimised might be acceptable but in this case she went out looking for something to take offence at in my opinion. I'm hoping it's not the Navy Seal @Pogue Mahone posted above as she's done a lot of good in fighting back against Trump's rejection of transgender rights but she certainly looks to be the same person and from the GQ video posted also looks to be going out to physically address gender rights in a way that does a great disservice to her cause.
Of course it was an overreaction.
You don't get to threaten people with physical violence for misgendering you, or scare other people in a store by acting in an intimidating manner. You certainly don't get to smash over something on your way out. That's totally unjustifiable behaviour which shows a distinct lack of ability to control her temper, it also clearly shows that she views violence as a way to solve her problems. Basically, unstable and should be going to anger management classes so she start behaving like a civilised human being.
I don't care what gender she identifies as, doesn't have any impact on my life whatsoever. I do however have an issue with someone who is that size and build feeling like it's ok to act like a 10 year old having a temper tantrum.
You don't get to threaten people with physical violence for misgendering you, or scare other people in a store by acting in an intimidating manner. You certainly don't get to smash over something on your way out. That's totally unjustifiable behaviour which shows a distinct lack of ability to control her temper, it also clearly shows that she views violence as a way to solve her problems. Basically, unstable and should be going to anger management classes so she start behaving like a civilised human being.
I don't care what gender she identifies as, doesn't have any impact on my life whatsoever. I do however have an issue with someone who is that size and build feeling like it's ok to act like a 10 year old having a temper tantrum.