Has political correctness actually gone mad?

Had a random look through some of the pages in this thread. Feck me....
 
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Jake Rivers sounds even 'arder than Jack Reacher. Seems like a must read really.
 

It's like he's got the phrases "trigger warning" (sounds a bit edgy, guns and warnings) and "safe space" (but there is no safe space, ahahahaha!) and just ran with it.

Be interesting (not really) to see how shit it is when it's published.
 
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TIL companies have a policy on literary and philosophical movements.
 
It gets bumped for all sorts of different reasons. The most recent was that terrible book at the bottom of the previous page. Seems bizarre to bump a thread complaining about it not being bumped for a specific reason without, you know, bumping it for that specific reason?
 
An absolute belter of a long read (and it is very long, you have been warned) covering pretty much everything discussed in this thread in today’s Guardian.

One important factor it mentions which had never previously occurred to me (or been mentioned in the thread) is simple demographics.


The plea that conservatives have become an oppressed minority, especially on campuses, is reshaping politics across the west, with some frightening consequences in the form of the “alt-right” and resurgent nationalism. It draws energy from the sense that the left is uniquely intolerant of dissent, and is allowing its cultural and moral worldview to interfere with the pursuit of knowledge. The humanities are viewed as the worst culprits, having turned “truth” into a political issue that is ultimately a matter of perspective. For many free speech advocates, this sinister moral agenda is seeking to colonise other disciplines, including even the natural sciences.

But these emotive claims are often concealing something more prosaic though no less troubling for conservatives: demography is against them. In Britain, the way voting behaviour now correlates with age is quite startling: in the 2017 general election, Labour beat Conservatives by 66% to 19% among 18-19 year-olds, while these numbers were roughly reversed among the over-70s. The age at which someone becomes more likely to vote Conservative than Labour is 47 and rising. If this is a “cohort effect”, as appears likely, this means that younger people will retain these political views as they grow older, rather than shift to the right.

Given that graduates also tend to lean more to the left than non-graduates, and the number of graduates is increasing, it is scarcely any surprise that universities now provoke anxiety among conservative commentators and politicians. As Sachs has shown in the US context, the fact that no-platforming protests are more often led from the left is due to the far larger number of leftwing students, and not a reflection on leftwing values. Of course, this doesn’t make it acceptable for conservative students to feel unwelcome or uncomfortable, any more than it is acceptable for other minorities to feel that way. But nor does it imply that a typical leftwing individual is any more censorious than a typical rightwing one.
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Data shows a surprising campus free speech problem: left-wingers being fired for their opinions

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...t=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

The raw numbers here should already raise questions about the so-called political correctness epidemic. According to the Department of Education, there are 4,583 colleges and universities in the United States (including two- and four-year institutions). The fact that there were roughly only 60 incidents in the past two years suggests that free speech crises are extremely rare events and don’t define university life in the way that critics suggest.
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fellaini's barber said:
Some people on here say you're a transophobe if you don't want to shag a transsexual
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There was one person who said that people who don't want to shag a trans person are transphobes, not "some people". On the other hand, there were some pretty shitty attitudes toward trans people on display in that thread. Claiming 99,9% of straight men wouldn't be interested in a transwoman, calling being attracted to transwoman a fetish, the constant focus on the fact that they were born male/female, people saying they'd be repulsed if they found found out a woman they'd slept with was trans.

But yeah, that one guy calling you a transphobe was the real issue, not the prevailing shitty attitude towards trans people.
fellaini's barber said:
Yup, I agree with him
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Well, seeing as how that moron was you, I'd be fecking surprised if you didn't. It isn't, though, and you thinking that it is isn't going to change that. It does a great job of displaying just how narrow-minded you are.
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Which one's this?
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This one. Starts at page six, I think.
 
Halftrack said:
There was one person who said that people who don't want to shag a trans person are transphobes, not "some people". On the other hand, there were some pretty shitty attitudes toward trans people on display in that thread. Claiming 99,9% of straight men wouldn't be interested in a transwoman, calling being attracted to transwoman a fetish, the constant focus on the fact that they were born male/female, people saying they'd be repulsed if they found found out a woman they'd slept with was trans.

But yeah, that one guy calling you a transphobe was the real issue, not the prevailing shitty attitude towards trans people.

Well, seeing as how that moron was you, I'd be fecking surprised if you didn't. It isn't, though, and you thinking that it is isn't going to change that. It does a great job of displaying just how narrow-minded you are.

This one. Starts at page six, I think.
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Cascarino said:
There was also a moron in that thread who said anyone who had intercourse with a transsexual could only do so because they had a fetish.
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For me if you bang a transexual fine, but if you go out on a mission to nail one or any other specific group, then yeah that probably is a fetish.
 
I don't get why anyone would define themselves strictly by a particular sexual orientation.

I mean, I've never encountered a man I find attractive, but I'd still balk at calling myself 'straight'.

To me, it's kind of like calling myself 'atheist'. I don't believe there's a God. I don't live my life in any way that concedes that a deity might exist. But I can't ever know for certain. As such, I'm technically agnostic to any God's existence.

Just like I'm agnostic to my sexuality. I might turn around a bang a transsexual tomorrow. You never know.
 
Jippy said:
For me if you bang a transexual fine, but if you go out on a mission to nail one or any other specific group, then yeah that probably is a fetish.
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There are undoubtedly people who have that kind of fetish. You’d have to read the thread for the context though, that ‘moron’ I mentioned from the thread was actually fellainis barber himself.
 
Halftrack said:
There was one person who said that people who don't want to shag a trans person are transphobes, not "some people". On the other hand, there were some pretty shitty attitudes toward trans people on display in that thread. Claiming 99,9% of straight men wouldn't be interested in a transwoman, calling being attracted to transwoman a fetish, the constant focus on the fact that they were born male/female, people saying they'd be repulsed if they found found out a woman they'd slept with was trans.

But yeah, that one guy calling you a transphobe was the real issue, not the prevailing shitty attitude towards trans people.

Well, seeing as how that moron was you, I'd be fecking surprised if you didn't. It isn't, though, and you thinking that it is isn't going to change that. It does a great job of displaying just how narrow-minded you are.

This one. Starts at page six, I think.
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All the statements there that were the ones said by me I fully stand by, and like I told @Alex99 in that thread, if you find that transphobic, narrow minded, moronic... good for you, I don't give a feck about how you chose to feel about it.
 
Cascarino said:
I’m hurt because I think you’re a moron? If that’s the case the whole human populace is hurt.

You’ve proven yourself to be a transphobe. Then you go whining about being called one, toughen up snowflake.
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:lol:See that @Halftrack,? 'some people' have called me transphobe after all. I wasn't whining about being called whatever, just giving an instance on PC gone mad as per thread topic. As for you thinking you represent the human populace. .. how dumb do you think the human race is to all have this stupid opinions of yours?
 
fellaini's barber said:
:lol:See that @Halftrack,? 'some people' have called me transphobe after all. I wasn't whining about being called whatever, just giving an instance on PC gone mad as per thread topic. As for you thinking you represent the human populace. .. how dumb do you think the human race is to all have this stupid opinions of yours?
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I didn’t call you a transphobe in that other thread, so yes halftrack was still right you were lying. The reason I’m calling you a transphobe now is because you believe the only way someone could ever be with a transsexual person is if they had a fetish. That’s transphobic. I’m not saying you’d have to be willing to love a transsexual, but the fact that you can’t understand that others can, without needing a ‘fetish’, does make you a transphobe.

As for your last sentence, I have no idea what you’re trying to convey.
 
Cascarino said:
I didn’t call you a transphobe in that other thread, so yes halftrack was still right you were lying. The reason I’m calling you a transphobe now is because you believe the only way someone could ever be with a transsexual person is if they had a fetish. That’s transphobic. I’m not saying you’d have to be willing to love a transsexual, but the fact that you can’t understand that others can, without needing a ‘fetish’, does make you a transphobe.

As for your last sentence, I have no idea what you’re trying to convey.
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He said that we are smarter than you.
 
Cascarino said:
I didn’t call you a transphobe in that other thread, so yes halftrack was still right you were lying. The reason I’m calling you a transphobe now is because you believe the only way someone could ever be with a transsexual person is if they had a fetish. That’s transphobic. I’m not saying you’d have to be willing to love a transsexual, but the fact that you can’t understand that others can, without needing a ‘fetish’, does make you a transphobe.

As for your last sentence, I have no idea what you’re trying to convey.
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Whatever man, done with this convo, goodnight
 
fellaini's barber said:
All the statements there that were the ones said by me I fully stand by, and like I told @Alex99 in that thread, if you find that transphobic, narrow minded, moronic... good for you, I don't give a feck about how you chose to feel about it.
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So you maintain that there's no way a straight man could be attracted to a trans woman without having a fetish? Because that's the one thing you said that I most object to. No, not all straight men would be interested in a trans woman, and yes, some straight men have a trans fetish. That does not mean that all straight men who are attracted to trans women have a fetish for them. What you're saying, in essence, is that no straight man could ever be interested in a trans woman as a woman, and if you can't see why that's offensive, then I don't know.

As for the rest, I think your incredibly heavy focus on them having been male, and your general language when talking about trans people is harsh. I don't think you were trying to be malicious, though.
fellaini's barber said:
:lol:See that @Halftrack,? 'some people' have called me transphobe after all. I wasn't whining about being called whatever, just giving an instance on PC gone mad as per thread topic. As for you thinking you represent the human populace. .. how dumb do you think the human race is to all have this stupid opinions of yours?
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Doesn't validate your claim, I'm afraid. First of all, he called you one after you made said claim. Secondly, there's no indication here that he's basing it solely on you saying you didn't want't to shag a trans woman. It's still only @Alex99 who's implied that.
 
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