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Imagine if that chance had mattered. Did people expect him to finish it? I didn't, which sadly sums him up as a number 9. Did a lot of good stuff yesterday, but he hasn't got it where it counts.
Agree with all this but we’d 100% need a striker that can be our number 9 and Cavani can support from the bench and rotationI don't get the plaudits from the City game. Yes he played much better and was mostly a nuisance for their defenders but he still has failed to one thing you'd expect number 9 to do - score, something he's failed to do pretty much all season. And that's after gifting him two chances on a plate.
Unless he goes on a freak goalscoring romp between now and the end of the season I'm still learning towards selling him and making way for a number 9 who reliably bags us 20+ goals a season. I'm a big converted Cavani fan and would be happy for him to have another season here, but he's not the solution going forward, nor is Martial.
Telling ye he’s looked motivated at least in the last few games and he’s going to start scoring again soon. Mental how long his latest bad patch lasted though
I'm going to respectfully disagree. That City game was his best game in months, better than the one he actually scored it, and he still missed a sitter.
Check his numbers playing up front this season, against those on the LW. It’ll show where he is superior - and this is in his worst season. Sadly all our strikers aren’t clinical but I know we play our best football when he is ticking.He played well against City but I still don't think he's a CF and his numbers prove it. We need to address that situation and potentially shift Martial on the wing or have him as our back-up.
It's really a shame, I hoped he would kick on from last season's success.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. That City game was his best game in months, better than the one he actually scored it, and he still missed a sitter.
This is what I say to my friends. He is not reliable!A better game from him but it's still obvious we need a serious upgrade. Lewa and Halland don't miss those type of chances every week.
Exactly. Can ole take the very real risk that he loses form for a long period of time again in the future? Who knows what’s happening behind the scenes but I really don’t see us going for a striker if we have Cavani and Martial as underwhelming as that sounds for another season. Maybe with more quality around them it’ll be different. Here’s hoping haaland doesn’t move this summer because I reckon we will just let him off
I find it annoying what people feel the liberty to call a sitter, it makes them sound ignorant as to what an actual sitter is or the fact that strikers miss those chances all of the time, even the deadliest strikers out there. He had a bad miss, but he didn't have any sitters.
Check his numbers playing up front this season, against those on the LW. It’ll show where he is superior - and this is in his worst season. Sadly all our strikers aren’t clinical but I know we play our best football when he is ticking.
Cavani is leaving at the end of the season, by the looks of it.
its a recurring theme with Martial though.
I just saw that. I’d say he’s looking for a bigger deal and no better man than Ed to step in
He's never going to be our main goal scorer. He could be good playing in a team with 2 strikers. One classic number 9 and him as the second striker. That's the only way I think.How did he miss that chance? All he had to do was find the bottom left corner.
No, I don't think he is ever going to take off like we all hoped he would. The next Thierry Henry wasn't it? I think he has the ability and potential to do amazing things, but not as a centre forward. He is at his best cutting in from the left. Unfortunately, this is also Rashford's best position. We have seen in the short time that 34 year old Cavani has been here, what a center forward should be doing. Making countless runs in behind, turning defenders round, holding up the ball and bringing others in, closing down defenders. Martial doesn't seem to me to have a football brain. He constantly runs into dead ends and tries to dribble through brick walls. He is really easy to mark because he is just so predicable in his play. He tries the same thing every time. His shooting is way off at the moment. Mostly because he is firing at the defenders legs. You put Vardy, Kane, Calvert Lewin, Salah in that same one on one that Martial had yesterday and they all would have burst the back of the net. We need a Ruud Van Nistlerooy, someone who lives and breathes goals. The closest to that is Haaland at the moment. So the question for United fans is, who do you prefer on the left? Rashford or Martial?
No, I don't think he is ever going to take off like we all hoped he would. The next Thierry Henry wasn't it? I think he has the ability and potential to do amazing things, but not as a centre forward. He is at his best cutting in from the left. Unfortunately, this is also Rashford's best position. We have seen in the short time that 34 year old Cavani has been here, what a center forward should be doing. Making countless runs in behind, turning defenders round, holding up the ball and bringing others in, closing down defenders. Martial doesn't seem to me to have a football brain. He constantly runs into dead ends and tries to dribble through brick walls. He is really easy to mark because he is just so predicable in his play. He tries the same thing every time. His shooting is way off at the moment. Mostly because he is firing at the defenders legs. You put Vardy, Kane, Calvert Lewin, Salah in that same one on one that Martial had yesterday and they all would have burst the back of the net. We need a Ruud Van Nistlerooy, someone who lives and breathes goals. The closest to that is Haaland at the moment. So the question for United fans is, who do you prefer on the left? Rashford or Martial?
Kane is one of the best forwards in the world. I don't understand what is to gain from comparing his performance against Palace to that of Martial against City?
I've been heavily critical of Martial this season, but if that was his level of performance all season you'd have to think he'd have found that goalscoring touch and would be having a much better season.
Let's take yesterday as a positive, because he's set the bar so low this season that even though yesterday was the 'baseline level' you'd expect from a United forward, its actually a performance to build off for once.
I find it annoying what people feel the liberty to call a sitter, it makes them sound ignorant as to what an actual sitter is or the fact that strikers miss those chances all of the time, even the deadliest strikers out there. He had a bad miss, but he didn't have any sitters.
He's been abysmal as a finisher since the end of last season, but I wouldn't say he's missed sitters. A sitter is basically empty net and no one in front of you and you find a way to screw it up, which even some of the greatests of all time have been guilty of once in a blue moon. Somehow here it means you're 1v1 with the keeper and miss, that's not a sitter; goalkeepers get paid for a reason and it's to come out on top in those situations as well.
Martial has had horrible misses, misses that you can reasonably expect to end in goals, but I don't really consider any of them actual sitters.
At this level, that needs to be finished. To do so, you make it as difficult as you can for their keeper. Putting at the near post gives the keeper a chance, not even putting in the corner as well made it easier for keeper. A natural striker puts that across towards the far post taking the keeper out of the equation. Top strikers do miss chances as you say but when they do it's almost a shock, you expect the likes of Kane to bury their chances, you don't with Martial, you hope.He did play better than lately and I guess that's a positive but pl is strange this season. Of all the top teams there seems to be a lack of quality strikers.
Quality strikers are a rare breed to begin with, and even more so in recent times. It wasn't too long ago that you'd also be shocked when Martial would miss 1v1 because he was a solid finisher even when he was struggling in his all-around game; he was the one you'd back on the team to get you a goal if you presented him with a 1v1, but now it's almost expected for him to miss given how poor he has been, and I don't even feel it's the goalkeepers getting the read on him, but more so him just not striking the ball the way he used to and bailing out the keeper with a weak and poorly-placed shot.
Wasn't it Ruud though that said goals were like ketchup? I think once he gets a few going, he'll average out to something decent by the end of the season, at least that's the hope otherwise he's just going to be a very expensive squad player.