Has apathy already set in for you?

Growing up in the nineties my teenage friends always teased me supporting the team that tops the table. They supported the likes of Spurs and Blackburn. But I remember seeing the pure joy in their eyes when they actually won a big game or signed a player with a bit of reputation.

I start to feel like them now, we are team like the Spurs or Blackburn, we win some and lose some. The reason behind it is well known and sad, but I really start to cheer when we get a win instead of taking that for granted. Sad but true and I’m starting to accept it.

This catches most of my feelings on the matter, most fans of most clubs support their team without a constant stream of sugar infused success, they still love their club, they still get over excited and over optimistic when on the up and have to deal with the inevitable downs in whichever way works for them.

Perhaps a lot of united fans who think it's pointless supporting United in ordinary mode should take a leaf out of their book, or at least admit they can't do what those other fans have been doing for their club.
 
Do wins feel a bit flat for you guys too? Cos they do for me. I don’t even watch the highlights back like I used to
 
Yeah pretty much this. It's a constant loop of mediocrity with the odd false dawn thrown in. So reminiscent of Liverpool in the 20 or so years before Klopp.
I think this is worse than Liverpool then. As bad as they were they seemed like they were giving 100% and I feel it's worse when we've spent so much on our squad. I think the existence of social media makes it harder to escape these results too. And we weren't being smashed 7-0 away and 5-0 at home either
 
Do wins feel a bit flat for you guys too? Cos they do for me. I don’t even watch the highlights back like I used to
Honestly just watch games and avoid match day threads. Football itself is arguably more boring/robotic as are the characters (or lack of) but I still enjoy watching.

It’s weird - the whole point of sport is supposed to be that it’s competitive and that’s what makes it enjoyable. That’s what I look forward to, seeing a manager who can really wrestle this team back to where we want it. I thought ETH could be that guy but we need to see the improvement on the pitch, if it’s not him then we see the next coach. Try and enjoy the process, it’s better than just watching us not try anything different which I feel we did for many years.
 
This catches most of my feelings on the matter, most fans of most clubs support their team without a constant stream of sugar infused success, they still love their club, they still get over excited and over optimistic when on the up and have to deal with the inevitable downs in whichever way works for them.

Perhaps a lot of united fans who think it's pointless supporting United in ordinary mode should take a leaf out of their book, or at least admit they can't do what those other fans have been doing for their club.
It's not as simple as supporting a mediocre team, out team is stuck in limbo due to poor ownership. Every fan whose club used to be good but then got destroyed by poor ownership feels like we do.
 
It set in after the club fecked up OGS's last transfer window. LvG bored me to death, Mourinho annoyed me to death, OGS made me enjoy the football again and since the CR7 return summer, I've been apathetic regardless if our team W/L/D.

I watch to be entertained, not to watch a drama about multi millionaire people crying about the times.
 
Times like this, you can just sit back and enjoy without getting nervous. I felt like this towards the final days of the Moyes and Mourinho era. The season is already over and expectations are on the floor, so there are no hopes that can be raised and subsequently dashed which would ruin your day. It’s fun watching United knowing that whatever the result, it will have no bearing on your mood. There is also the possibility of being pleasantly surprised, alongside being strangely intrigued about how we are going to lose or draw. At the same time, if you want the manager gone, you can hate-watch so as to pick out the flaws in their tactics or system. These are my coping mechanisms for having to watch dour football played by a team that has pretty much checked out.

I didn’t reach this phase with LvG because he had credit in the bank with Juanfield and he followed that up with another win at Anfield. While his football was by far the most boring to watch, the wins at Anfield matter to me on a sentimental basis. As for Ole, I was always rooting for him even though it was unlikely he would turn it around.

As for the Ralf era, I cannot remember anything after getting eliminated from the UCL. We were not playing for anything, and this was reflected in the performances. I have wiped that era out of my memory.

With Ten Hag it’s just…meh. The football is dour. The players have checked out. The manager’s decisions are baffling and his personality is divisive and alienating. But it is a win-win for me. If United win - great. If United lose - it accelerates the path to a new manager, then we can enjoy another new manager bounce and get excited for a fleeting moment until it all goes down the drain again.

I’ve accepted that this has always been the reality of United fans and the Sir Alex era was the exception rather than the norm of United’s post-war history. I’m grateful to have experienced the last decade or so of the SAF era. I have also come to accept that, unlike other super clubs such as FC Bayern, Barcelona or Real Madrid, we do not dominate across generations. We only dominated and had such expectations due to the absolutely freakish levels of genuis of a man from Glasgow.

The main thing that annoys me about United right now under Ten Hag, in the context of the reduced expectations of the post-SAF era, is that if we aren’t going to seriously challenge for titles I at least want to be entertained. Under Ten Hag right now, we aren’t being entertained and I am not confident that we will seriously challenge. I can have one or the other, but I can’t have both. This is why I currently hate-watch United as a coping mechanism. It gives me something trivial and unimportant to complain about so as to distract me from real life problems…
 
Not really no. The only time I stopped caring were the last months of Mourinho.

Maybe I’m foolish, but I can see progress in this team, I can see a direction. It’s not perfect, but I see the potential. Overnight success doesn’t exist and so far we’ve been very unlucky. Lors of decisions going against us at key moments, individual errors, injuries, etc. We ended up most of our games as the team creating the more chances, having had the more touches in the opponents box and with a higher xG. What we lack is confidence, it’s clear as day they play devoid of confidence.

This place however has become depressing. Every other day a new thread is created to shite on a new target, there’s constant complaining with little discussion, and if you dare have a bit of optimism, most of the time the answer you’ll get is « how low have the standards fallen »

If anything I still enjoy watching the games but I avoid reading the Caf after games.
 
This catches most of my feelings on the matter, most fans of most clubs support their team without a constant stream of sugar infused success, they still love their club, they still get over excited and over optimistic when on the up and have to deal with the inevitable downs in whichever way works for them.

Perhaps a lot of united fans who think it's pointless supporting United in ordinary mode should take a leaf out of their book, or at least admit they can't do what those other fans have been doing for their club.

They shouldn’t have too though they chose to support the best team when they were growing up so they should always be successful because of standards and stuff apparently.

Kind of proving the glory supporter label right tbh, a lot don’t support the club they just like the dopamine hit and rubbing it in other peoples faces.

Young Man City fans across the country will be exactly the same when pep leaves
 
It's not as simple as supporting a mediocre team, out team is stuck in limbo due to poor ownership. Every fan whose club used to be good but then got destroyed by poor ownership feels like we do.
I'm a Blackpool fan, its kind of pointless talking about poor ownership with a blackpool fan.
 
Do wins feel a bit flat for you guys too? Cos they do for me. I don’t even watch the highlights back like I used to
When I first read this I almost responded but was waiting for our next win to talk in the moment.

A win like today doesn’t particularly feel like a window into a better future or some stepping stone to more. It took 2 stoppage times goals from McTominay to beat Brentford ffs! Yes I’m flat.
 
When I first read this I almost responded but was waiting for our next win to talk in the moment.

A win like today doesn’t particularly feel like a window into a better future or some stepping stone to more. It took 2 stoppage times goals from McTominay to beat Brentford ffs! Yes I’m flat.

I felt nothing
 
The least I ever celebrated a late win, in fact I just sat there not sure what the feck there is to feel. Just reminded me of the 3-2 win against Newcastle late in Mou’s tenure in 2018, which only delayed the inevitable.