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Won’t be long before someone reliable tweets “understand mufc are chasing Maguire but no deal agreed as of yet”
 
And still Woodward will receive 2 tons of crap tomorrow...AWB, James and Maguire for a total for £145 m isn't that horrible in the current climate.

Our selling policy is still strange but we just have to hope we get the players and then if we do? Ed's doing ok if we keep at it. In the past it's been about big names but we (seemingly) rightly turned down Bale. We are buying what feel like United type players/potential. We are still short but let's hope we can do what we're doing without anyone noticing. I think one/two more with maguire and we can start to feel ok. We've a young squad. Thin potentially in midfield but Jones can do a role. I know people hate that but if it was good enough for Sir Alex at times?

We have to build slowly/carefully but we do need more
 
We've done well to get him for 80m if it's true, I'll give Woodward that much.

Still not sure about him but there just aren't many good centrebacks about and we need to at least try and find one
 
If I'm paying a world record fee for a defender, I want him to be one of the best ever defenders, obviously. He isn't.

The club has gone somewhat insane in its transfer business since Fergie left.
 
If Napoli dont want to sell Koulibaly for under 120m or whatever it is and De Ligt doesnt want to play for us, thats what you got to do. Dont buy Maguire, club is a shambles for not improving CBs. Buy him, club is a shambles. Buy Diop for 60m, he is the French Smalling. Buy Milenkovic for 50m, we need experience etc etc.

Our CB situation is a mess, glad something gets done here.

I'm not going to harp on about it any more because the deal is almost certainly done and I of course want Maguire to succeed but honestly if we really are only interested in improving the defence why not just get the best cb available regardless of the fee which was Koulibaly? It just seems like a strange middle ground we fell into. £60m as a fee is about right considering current market prices imo (the addons make him overpriced but still not that big of a deal if he makes us significantly better)
 
If it’s £60m with £20m of add-ons that isn’t too bad. If it’s £80m straight up then I’d be concerned.

I would imagine add-ones would be trophy-based and not appearance-based.
 
Everyone was laughing when VVD went for that high amount.
If true for the 60mil starting then Bruno will be coming too and this would actually be a good window.
Covered RB, CB and CM.. Maybe Sancho comes next year
 
We're really not getting the level of defender you would expect/hope for for that price, but I guess he's better than what we have, at least.
 
It's the player he denied the manager last summer and wasted one full season in search for a better option and failed.
I'm not a big fan of Woodward, but we can't blame him for trying better options first (De Ligt, Koulibaly...) before going for the second choice (Maguire).
 
@utdreport: The latest #mufc offer made for Harry Maguire (£60m + £20m), has been agreed with Leicester #mulive [@transferpodcast, @garbosj, @DuncanCastles]


Im ok with 60 plus add ons. If we have to pay the add ons, he's been a success. It is a touch expensive but we were always going to get fleeced.

He's in the top 10 possibly top 5 cbs in the league so is a big improvement, but i wouldn't be expecting vvd impact because he's not at that level
 
Welcome slabhead, that defence looks a lot better on paper now at least.

Shaw Lindelof Maguire AWB

Should provide a solid platform to go forward
 
Happy with this. Defense looks much more solid with him and AWB added. Here’s hoping we get a midfielder and an attacker of some variety on top of this.
 
£60 million is a fair price considering the general madness of the market, I reckon. If we are to pay the supposed add ons then you imagine it’s because he’s been a very good signing.

I like Maguire. He’s great in the air and good on the ball, which is what we needed at centre half. Yes, he’s slow on the turn and isn’t perfect, but he’ll improve our defence, certainly.
 
I’m not sure about him. At this stage I’d just be happy that we can maybe move on and try and sign the central midfielder or two that we’re desperate for. And maybe sell some of the shite players we have.
 
can he even join the tour? he's not gonna get a visa over night

Australian holiday e-visas are pretty easy to get I think. I considered flying from Bali to Perth at one stage and messaged asking if I could get the visa on the day. Decided to just go to Singapore early instead but they got back to me like 30 mins after I messaged them saying it was fine and I could go. It's not like Maguire needs to stay in the country for a particularly long time. You don't need a visa for Singapore so the only issue would probably be Shanghai but maybe he'd be able to get a short-term exemption (I believe you can do that for certain Chinese cities including Shanghai). Alternatively he could just not travel with the squad to Shanghai and rejoin them in Cardiff.
 
Can just picture Mourinho walking 'round doing that hand to ear gesture... haha

Why the feck didn't we just sign him last Summer...?

But very glad he's coming (hopefully), I think he'll be a great signing.

:lol:
 
Im ok with 60 plus add ons. If we have to pay the add ons, he's been a success. It is a touch expensive but we were always going to get fleeced.

He's in the top 10 possibly top 5 cbs in the league so is a big improvement, but i wouldn't be expecting vvd impact because he's not at that level

Maguire is better now than VVD was 2 years ago. Or at least very similar. VVD has gone up a number of levels since then though, let's hope Maguire can do the same.
 
Good signing in a position we needed to strengthen. His aerial presence and ability to play out from the back will add a lot to our team. Now let's get Bruno Fernades.
 
I've always thought of Maguire as quite slow on the turn (he does have decent top speed) and that's an issue with Lindelof as well so does this actually resolve anything or does it still mean that Smalling is going to end up playing? Not sure how Solskjaer can implement the pressing game he wants if he's got a centre back pairing susceptible to pace.
Maybe Solskjaer views Smalling ahead of Lindelof
 
I really don't rate him that highly, but he's probably going to improve our first XI at least slightly so at least that's something for the money. If he goes on to be a massive success then I'll happily eat my words, and just because I didn't want / don't rate a player doesn't mean I'll be jumping at every opportunity to criticize him.

Wish him all the best and hope he can get us on the path to challenging again. £60m+20 is a much better deal than anything over £70m outright. I am sure that one of the clauses in such a mega deal must be that we win the Premier League within his initial contract with us. If that happens, then the transfer has surely been worth it?
 
Spend it on.. what? And who? This notion of spending money to spend needs to stop.

First off: £250 million is not "easy spending" It's almost the entirety of the clubs available money in the bank. I've written several long-ass posts about the clubs finances, and why we don't spend out of our ass just because so I won't repeat myself again (check my post history for anyone who's curious).

If this Maguire deal is agreed, then the club has spent £120 million + £25 million in add-ons in this transfer window. So far. Ole has stated that we are looking for "a couple players". Ie. there will be more signing. Bruno Fernandes seems very likely if the noise is any indication, but I honestly don't know. I hope we buy Bruno Fernandes.

The extremely boiled down version of why we are not "easily spending 250 million or more":

1) We do not have Champions League this season. The income loss from this contest is enormous. For once the club is buying pieces that will both get us there next season, and can challenge for the title again in 2-3 seasons. If anyone thinks we're actually doing that this year you need a brutal reality check. Yes I want the club to win every single game, but we have issues that will take time to correct, over several windows.

2) Man United is not financial doped by sheikh money: That means that all the money we spend comes from the clubs own pocket. Not bank loans like Barcelona and Real Madrid, or investment groups taking enormous losses like PSG and Man City. We purchase from our financial strength, and while that strength is better than anyone in football currently, it also means fiscal responsibility.

3) "Hurr durr you need to spend or we're going to lose income and become a mid-table team". Are we though? We've gone the big spending route. It got us: Nothing that we want. The club finally after 6 years since SAF retired have a clear outspoken transfer plan. Young talent, building blocks for a future Man United dynasty. That means we're not going to buy mega-expensive primadonnas or players that want to move on in 3 years (Hi Paul). We're buying players that want a career here. Elite players that want a career here.

4) With the addition of Maguire and Wan-Bissaka we've adressed a HUGE issue since last season, our awful, awful defense. 54 allowed goals in 38 games is 1.4 goals pr game. That's brutally bad for a top4 challenger. Only 2 teams in the top9 allowed more than 50 goals, Man United and Arsenal. Arsenal with 51, us with 54. Ashley Young is a bad bad right back. He's been replaced with the best defensive rightback in the league. We're adding Maguire, an excellent centreback that can play the ball from the back, exactly what Ole wants.

5) Pogba is still here and honestly I think he will stick around with the team, especially given his price tag, and the fact that we're investing in the squad. Lukaku will be replaced. By who I don't know, but the clubs will agree on a transfer and he will be replaced.

6) We have some incredible talent coming up, especially Mason Greenwood who already looks like he is PL ready Angel Gomes *might* make it, I'm undecided on him but my gut says he'll go out on a loan. The point is that we have talent that is ready now. The club is absolutey adding a midfielder once the Maguire saga is over. The squad will be so much stronger this season than last.

Not saying that we should definitely spend the whole £250m, I am not an expert in finance so not sure how gad that would affects us.. I will check out some of your posts on out finances. Thanks for notifying me about them. I also hope that we get Bruno Fernandes.

Regarding 1) I realise that we are not in the Champions League and know the financial loss this causes but I thought the club would have spent a bit more this window to get back up there next seson. I am happy that the club is looking to build a team to contend for the league in three seasons and realise it will take more than 1 transfer window to rectify all the issues with our squad.

Regarding point 3) What does "hurr durr" mean please? I realise that we have wasted a lot of money on dross signings in the last 6 years and I personally think its not the amount of money spend which is the main problem, its the fact that is hasn't been spend shrewdly enough.

Would rather Pogba goes than stays if he is going to be half committed. I want decent players here are going to give so much effort they are willing to virtually collapse for the team and be willing to give every last drop of sweat for the team rather than a supremely talented player who only turns up and puts in the full effort when he feels like it. Really hope than when Lukaku goes that he is properly replaced and that Woody doesn't think he doesn't need replacing as he feels we have enough quality in that area already.

I really hope your right when you state that we will definitely sign a new midfielder. If this happens it will have been an acceptable transfer window mate.
 
At what point should we actually believe the rumours of an agreement. Castles isn’t so relevant in a post-Mou era is he?
 
Wouldn’t have been my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th choice but if it’s true then hope he does well.

Imagine the back 4 will be something like this.

DDG
Wan Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Smalling and Lindelof to fight it out for the right sided slot and Bailly and Jones probably as back up. Rojo gone, Tuan on loan.
 
If Maguire was to come.

Starters - Lindelof Maguire
Backup - Smalling Tuanzebe
Sell - All of Rojo, Jones or Bailly

I'd call it a day on Jones and Smalling

Start the season with Lindelof, Maguire, Rojo, Tuanzebe and Bailly. Jones and Smalling have had some decent seasons between them but never reached the top level required. Give someone else a chance and let Lindelof and Maguire be our new leaders at the back and also in the changing rooms.

I reckon this makes more sense.
 
I just like his aggression and he's left footed so good for balance. I appreciate many don't like him but I think he would be a useful player with a run of games.

Staying fit long enough to get a run of games is his biggest problem. He'd be first out the door if it were up to me.
 
Wouldn’t have been my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th choice but if it’s true then hope he does well.

Imagine the back 4 will be something like this.

DDG
Wan Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Smalling and Lindelof to fight it out for the right sided slot and Bailly and Jones probably as back up. Rojo gone, Tuan on loan.
I would like to get rid of Rojo and Jones due to abysmal injury records of both players.
 
If I'm paying a world record fee for a defender, I want him to be one of the best ever defenders, obviously. He isn't.

The club has gone somewhat insane in its transfer business since Fergie left.
For about the 10th time in this thread, Manchester United would obviously like to sign a better defender for 80 million, De Ligt for example, however we are just not currently attractive to the TOP tier players. I really don't know how many times this needs to be repeated. There is a difference between real world signings and Football Manager signings! Maguire is the best realistic defender we can currently sign, if you know of someone better who is available and willing to join United I am all ears.

Maguire displaces Jones or Smalling from our lineup that is worth 80 million alone.
 
For about the 10th time in this thread, Manchester United would obviously like to sign a better defender for 80 million, De Ligt for example, however we are just not currently attractive to the TOP tier players. I really don't know how many times this needs to be repeated. There is a difference between real world signings and Football Manager signings! Maguire is the best realistic defender we can currently sign, if you know of someone better who is available and willing to join United I am all ears.

Maguire displaces Jones or Smalling from our lineup that is worth 80 million alone.
I'll disagree with the last sentence. He's not worth replacing them at any cost.
 
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