[meamth]

He was never worth the £80mil investment.

We’ve tried to sign our VvD before we’ve got our Firmino > Mane > Salah

He’s a damn good CB but we were in no position to spend £80mil on a ‘good CB’, he’s not a generational talent & I can’t see a stand out quality in his game that he is peerless at.

He’ll be a good CB for us but I thought at the time funds should have been used elsewhere & still do. We should be looking for the next Maguire not overspending because our rivals got a generational CB a few windows before.

We're clearing up spaces for our own Firmino> Mane > Salah.

In the mean time we're finding players or developing our own for the attack, we're strengthening the defense first.

Time and time again, Ole said the players he wanted and suited for United isn't available yet, or it was too late due to incompetence in clearing out the deadwoods upfront.

We don't need to copy Liverpool step by step from wikihow.com.

 

[redshaw]

Made some very good long passes out of defence to our wide players. Him and Bissaka I'm still pleased with.

 

[kiristao]

Had a poor game. Atleast 3 times last night he was beaten way too easily in a 1 on 1 situation. If we want to play a high press game that Ole talked about, we need our CBs to be able to defend in a 1 v 1 situation. Unfortunately, Maguire and Lindelof both seem to struggle at this.

 

[Suedesi]

Maguire is an improvement in defence but the problem will always be that he was never a £85m improvement, more worth half that. I know United have a lot of money to spend but it's that kind of wastage that is symptomatic of the club's decline.

When you look at the deficiencies in the rest of the squad, there's little reason why United spent £135m on Wan-Bissaka and Maguire, it's like being given £135 to buy a new set of clothes in the shop and buying a pretty good jacket and a nice jumper but your shoes are falling apart.

While the midfield is so poor, United will continue to give up chances and he'll concede goals and they won't score enough to cover for that. And he's not a generational defender that will lift a team out of that kind of situation.

He was never worth the £80mil investment.

We’ve tried to sign our VvD before we’ve got our Firmino > Mane > Salah

He’s a damn good CB but we were in no position to spend £80mil on a ‘good CB’, he’s not a generational talent & I can’t see a stand out quality in his game that he is peerless at.

He’ll be a good CB for us but I thought at the time funds should have been used elsewhere & still do. We should be looking for the next Maguire not overspending because our rivals got a generational CB a few windows before.

But is he a generational talent?

 

[norm87cro]

Since signing him yesterday was the first time he got really owned by somebody on one single occasion. Still a 7/10 game. He has been very consistent this season and I really don't have any issues with him other than the fact he doesn't have a decent teammate to form a CB partnership.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

When you look at the deficiencies in the rest of the squad, there's little reason why United spent £135m on Wan-Bissaka and Maguire, it's like being given £135 to buy a new set of clothes in the shop and buying a pretty good jacket and a nice jumper but your shoes are falling apart.

In fairness we had Valencia or Young at RB so your analogy is tripe, our jumper was falling apart at the seams also.
In fairness to Maguire & AWB they look like our two best players.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Unfortunately when you are the most expensive defender in the world, you are going to be judged by your mistakes.

 

[Bobski]

Leicester are not exactly missing him are they? Improved at both ends of the pitch.

 

[Irwin99]

Since signing him yesterday was the first time he got really owned by somebody on one single occasion. Still a 7/10 game. He has been very consistent this season and I really don't have any issues with him other than the fact he doesn't have a decent teammate to form a CB partnership.

I don't think he's ever been bad for us yet, but I feel his overall performances have dropped a bit over the past few games. Nothing drastic but still noticeable IMO.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

In fairness we had Valencia or Young at RB so your analogy is tripe, our jumper was falling apart at the seams also.
In fairness to Maguire & AWB they look like our two best players.

Think Wan-Bissaka looks a great player and right back was a weak spot. But for the price, that's what you would expect. Maguire meanwhile for his price you'd expect someone to transform your team. 13th most expensive signing of all time, all the players ahead of him are world-class match-winners.

Better recruitment strategy and you get in a player of Maguire's level for 50m, sell Lukaku early for 60m+ and all of a sudden you have serious money to buy top of the range player in midfield or attack where United desperately need improvement.

It's not Maguire's fault United overpaid but it's hard to ignore. And it's hard to ignore that United have been terrible in the transfer market for quite a few years comparing to other teams.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Solid defensively but considering his size and that head of his, kind of disappointed he doesn't have a single header goal from a cross or corner kick.

 

[SaintMuppet]

Oh dear Harry what have you done???

 

[GGT]

It begs doubt and apprehension on his capacity to weigh up situations and scenarios, fck me if you really think about it, it is embarrasing.

 

[Lee565]

There were 4 players from Leicester that i would jave rather had seen the club sign before him in either vardy, ndidi, periera, maddison.

you take laporte out of man city's defence and they are shaky, you take van dijk out of liverpool's defence and that will be a big miss, take Maguire out of Leicester's defence and they are looking just as good if not better, not the sign of a great defender is it when your old club doesn't miss ya.

 

[cyberman]

There were 4 players from Leicester that i would jave rather had seen the club sign before him in either vardy, ndidi, periera, maddison.

you take laporte out of man city's defence and they are shaky, you take van dijk out of liverpool's defence and that will be a big miss, take Maguire out of Leicester's defence and they are looking just as good if not better, not the sign of a great defender is it when your old club doesn't miss ya.

We won the league and reached a CL final within 2 seasons of selling Ronaldo.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

There were 4 players from Leicester that i would jave rather had seen the club sign before him in either vardy, ndidi, periera, maddison.

you take laporte out of man city's defence and they are shaky, you take van dijk out of liverpool's defence and that will be a big miss, take Maguire out of Leicester's defence and they are looking just as good if not better, not the sign of a great defender is it when your old club doesn't miss ya.

Take Maguire out of our defence and we are completely fecked. You have a very short memory of you don’t acknowledge how bad our defence has been the last couple of years.

 

[Cassidy]

Take Maguire out of our defence and we are completely fecked. You have a very short memory of you don’t acknowledge how bad our defence has been the last couple of years.

Except last season when we were similar defensively. Maguire is being vastly overrated here

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Except last season when we were similar defensively. Maguire is being vastly overrated here

Has to be done to justify the s*** show OgS is presiding over.

Maguire will be a good CB for us; he was not worth £80mil given the constraints we placed on ourselves over incoming transfers.

 

[roonster09]

Leicester are not missing him so it’s not a good transfer? fecking hell, this is like viral infection. Every thread is infected. Wonder when the next treatment is by Dr @Niall

 

[FootyGirl88]

Leicester are not missing him so it’s not a good transfer? fecking hell, this is like viral infection. Every thread is infected. Wonder when the next treatment is by Dr @Niall

Exactly we have bigger problems in midfield and attack and people are moaning about Maguire.

 

[RedSky]

Except last season when we were similar defensively. Maguire is being vastly overrated here

After 9 games last season we had conceded 16 goals, this season we've conceded 9. We're much better defensively this year, it's night and day.

 

[izec]

Leicester havent missed Maguire because they have Söyüncü stepping up, which Maguire benched last season. Plus they are flying as a team, have two good fullbacks and Ndidi mopping up in front of the defense. We are the opposite of them.

 

[He'sRaldo]

Had a poor game. Atleast 3 times last night he was beaten way too easily in a 1 on 1 situation. If we want to play a high press game that Ole talked about, we need our CBs to be able to defend in a 1 v 1 situation. Unfortunately, Maguire and Lindelof both seem to struggle at this.

It's a problem for our backline for sure.

I wonder if Tuanzebe can play a DM role to help them avoid those 1v1 situations, and help us keep pressure higher up the pitch instead of always retreating into our own half. Like an Ndidi kind of role. That wouldn't be a bad solution IMO.

 

[tenpoless]

Ok Dutch Champion

 

[Canagel]

Good player but wasn't needed. We should have rebuilt our threadbare midfield and attack first. That money could have got us say Thomas Partey and Fernandes or RW etc - two players are always better than one. It doesnt make any sense to splash 80m on central defenders unless it's the missing piece see Liverpool with VVD.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

Leicester are not exactly missing him are they? Improved at both ends of the pitch.

I think that might just be because they have a good manager, who has stamped his authority and identity. With or without Maguire, they would be where they are imo.

 

[Cassidy]

After 9 games last season we had conceded 16 goals, this season we've conceded 9. We're much better defensively this year, it's night and day.

We’ll see over the course of the season

 

[bosnian_red]

Good player but wasn't needed. We should have rebuilt our threadbare midfield and attack first. That money could have got us say Thomas Partey and Fernandes or RW etc - two players are always better than one. It doesnt make any sense to splash 80m on central defenders unless it's the missing piece see Liverpool with VVD.

Was absolutely needed, our defence was embarrassing. Doesn't mean other positions werent needed, and it's not like we didnt have money for more. People on here seem to think it was Maguire or these other options. If we had properly targeted these other players and committed to them, we would have gone for them with or without Maguire. Instead we wasted our time chasing Longstaff, not Partey or Fernandes. We still wanted to sign Sancho, but he wasnt leaving. None of this had anything to do with Maguire or Wan Bissaka who were both absolutely necessary and are going to be terrific signings for us (and have already stepped up into being 2 of our 4 most important outfield players, the other 2 being Pogba and Martial).

Criticism of him is dumb as feck. We are actually good defensively, largely because of him. Leicester are good this season, but arent amazing defensively really (not bad at all, but with Maguire they would be up another level at the back). Their strengths lie in being so well rounded all around, a perfectly balanced midfield and quality fullbacks and a good system. Evans is also a very good CB and Soyuncu proving to be decent, but that doesnt mean Maguire himself isn't quality. That's just dumb and anyone who actually watches him this season and saw us last season could see the difference in our defence. Its night and day.

 

[Skills]

Leicester havent missed Maguire because they have Söyüncü stepping up, which Maguire benched last season. Plus they are flying as a team, have two good fullbacks and Ndidi mopping up in front of the defense. We are the opposite of them.

Competent manager as well

 

[Seaman]

He is a very good player. But he I'd proof that the further back you play on the pitch the less imortant you are. If you have average team all across the pitch and are allowed to have 1 elite player. It's a striker and then work your way down the pitch. Which is why it's nonsense van dijk is talked about as best player in the world. He is a bloody CB

 

[AshRK]

So now according to the geniuses here we don't need maguire. Imagine a defence of rojo and jones. This place would have gone even more crazy. Maguire was very much needed and he has so far been really good.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

So now according to the geniuses here we don't need maguire. Imagine a defence of rojo and jones. This place would have gone even more crazy. Maguire was very much needed and he has so far been really good.

It’s astonishing when one of our best players starts getting criticised. I wonder if it’s the anti-English brigade again? If he had a fancy name, perhaps he wouldn’t be slagged off.

Our alternatives are Bailly, Jones and Rojo - seriously lads get a bloody grip.

 

[A-man]

So now according to the geniuses here we don't need maguire. Imagine a defence of rojo and jones. This place would have gone even more crazy. Maguire was very much needed and he has so far been really good.

Yes it is very weird. Personally, I think he has been the best player in the team so far. He was average with some poor moments in the last cup match, but that’s it. One can criticise buying two very expensive defenders without strengthen the midfield not attack, sure, but at least there is a solid defence now.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

So is Leicester's defense better or worse than last year?

 

[Redplane]

So now according to the geniuses here we don't need maguire. Imagine a defence of rojo and jones. This place would have gone even more crazy. Maguire was very much needed and he has so far been really good.

Exactly. For a first season to come in as the world s most expensive defender and in some ways immediately taking on a leadership role is really all you can ask for imho. Vidic, Stam, Neville, Ferdinand would have all struggled to shine in this current team. The man is carrying a heavy psychological burden imho.

 

[tenpoless]

To put things into perspective. Let's say that We didn't sign Maguire and let's just assume that it's true, our defensive records looked the same without him so far this season (even though I highly doubt it). The most likely scenario :

• You watched Leicester destroying Southampton 9-0
• Maguire played well because everyone in his team did
• He helped controlling the match from the back because it's his play style, that lead to goals
• You then compared his ability and the match result to ours
• You looked at Jones, Smalling, Rojo and began swearing
• You blamed the club for not signing Maguire
• You hated the existence of Ed Woodward

Fast forward to the end of season :

• Maguire and Leicester somehow managed to keep their form throughout the season
• You want us to buy Maguire during the muppet season, still blaming the club for not signing him when Jose then Ole wanted him
• Leicester holds all the cards and only willing to sell for 120m
• We back off as it's too expensive
• Still have Jones, Smalling and Rojo
• We're looking for cheaper alternative from Spain
• His name Herry Maxi Guadalupe
• Did blunders in his first game and looking Gormless, no habla ingles
• 5 years contract extension for Smalling
• You're feeling dead inside
• she cannae take the strain capt'n

 

[Ekeke]

It’s astonishing when one of our best players starts getting criticised. I wonder if it’s the anti-English brigade again? If he had a fancy name, perhaps he wouldn’t be slagged off.

Our alternatives are Bailly, Jones and Rojo - seriously lads get a bloody grip.

I dont think anyone is suggesting any of those 3 are better than Maguire. But for £80 million we almost had our pick of players. And after all the hype about Maguire there is obviously no anti-English brigade other than a couple of posters. The majority were clearly on the English hype brigade and wanted him

 

[Redplane]

To put things into perspective. Let's say that We didn't sign Maguire and let's just assume that it's true, our defensive records looked the same without him so far this season (even though I highly doubt it). The most likely scenario :

• You watched Leicester destroying Southampton 9-0
• Maguire played well because everyone in his team did
• He helped controlling the match from the back because it's his play style, that lead to goals
• You then compared his ability and the match result to ours
• You looked at Jones, Smalling, Rojo and began swearing
• You blamed the club for not signing Maguire
• You hated the existence of Ed Woodward

Fast forward to the end of season :

• Maguire and Leicester somehow managed to keep their form throughout the season
• You want us to buy Maguire during the muppet season, still blaming the club for not signing him when Jose then Ole wanted him
• Leicester holds all the cards and only willing to sell for 120m
• We back off as it's too expensive
• Still have Jones, Smalling and Rojo
• We're looking for cheaper alternative from Spain
• His name Herry Maxi Guadalupe
• Did blunders in his first game and looking Gormless, no habla ingles
• 5 years contract extension for Smalling
• You're feeling dead inside
• she cannae take the strain capt'n

If this was reddit Id consider buying you a star.

 

[Jibbs]

We won the league and reached a CL final within 2 seasons of selling Ronaldo.

Not replacing Ronaldo is one of the biggest reasons why we are where we are now.

 

[Bobski]

Showed a little more ambition with his passing today which was good to see, has been too happy so far to drop off simple passes to the full backs and short into midfield. Not great for their goal though.