Harry Kane

[Striker10]

He would be a good buy. He can improve of course but he's doing now what he did at youth levels. Next season he will be more 'known' but he'll still score goals.

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

Danger is, if he stays at spurs for another year and has another 30+ goal season, your then looking at 60-80m pounds for a genuine article english 22 year old star striker with a levi tax.

40-45m is peanuts if we look back on the transfer like a ferdinand or rooney.

 

[izec]

They wont sell for 40m now, dont know why it is even a discussion.

 

[Brwned]

He would be a good buy. He can improve of course but he's doing now what he did at youth levels. Next season he will be more 'known' but he'll still score goals.

He's only scored in 3 of his 12 games since the the beginning of March so you have to wonder whether it's just a natural dip in form or whether its team's knowing how to deal with him better second time round, and Kane struggling to deal with that. I'm not sure we can afford to take that kind of risk. I don't really see the money as an issue, it's just whether he's ready to make the step up to a CL club and start banging in the goals straight away or whether he's going to suffer the second season syndrome. We need to buy a striker who hits the ground running because if we had that in Falcao we would've been 2nd not 4th. We can't afford to make the same mistake again.

That said I think Kane fits the profile perfectly for both the club and for van Gaal and his system.

 

[BennyBlanco]

If you were Spuds would you sell him right now? a fans favourite young English goalscorer, who's delighted to be at Spurs?
Only way would be if you're from the school of *Andy Carroll half season wonder.*.. which he's not, even if he never scores this many goals again, his gameplay has other attributes that makes him worth keeping, while Andy the donkey Carroll hardly looked a professional footballer at times between his goals for Newcastle.

 

[SonnyTheHaloPro]

Need to make this guy one of our top targets this summer.

 

[2 man midfield]

No thanks. Much rather we go for someone else.

 

[Devil may care]

No thanks. Much rather we go for someone else.

Who? There are very few options.

 

[Devil may care]

He's only scored in 3 of his 12 games since the the beginning of March so you have to wonder whether it's just a natural dip in form or whether its team's knowing how to deal with him better second time round, and Kane struggling to deal with that. I'm not sure we can afford to take that kind of risk. I don't really see the money as an issue, it's just whether he's ready to make the step up to a CL club and start banging in the goals straight away or whether he's going to suffer the second season syndrome. We need to buy a striker who hits the ground running because if we had that in Falcao we would've been 2nd not 4th. We can't afford to make the same mistake again.

That said I think Kane fits the profile perfectly for both the club and for van Gaal and his system.

Good points but is there anyone that doesn't carry the risk? Morata, Vietto, Lacazette etc...all carry it, Benteke is another that is uncertain, and then we are into the Benzema and Muller territory, players that are practically unobtainable.

 

[2 man midfield]

Who? There are very few options.

I'm willing to leave that to the scouts. I just don't think we should spunk what will surely be 35m plus on Harry Kane. Haven't seen Lacazette even nearly enough, but his goalscoring record of 1 in every 1.2 is better than Kane's 1.6. Ok so Ligue 1 isn't the PL, but he has at least shown this form for 2 seasons in a row. Plus he will likely cost half the amount. His pace also makes him a more attractive option for me.

 

[Sam]

Benteke would be a far better option. He'd cost less, and is proven over 3 years at PL level. He's also gone through a 'dip' and come out the other side. We don't know if Kane can do that.

The only thing Kane has on him is that he's English. Which is a ridiculous reason to favour a player.

 

[Devil may care]

I'm willing to leave that to the scouts. I just don't think we should spunk what will surely be 35m plus on Harry Kane. Haven't seen Lacazette even nearly enough, but his goalscoring record of in every 1.2 is better than Kane's 1.6. Ok so Ligue 1 isn't the PL, but he has at least shown this form for 2 seasons in a row. Plus he will likely cost half the amount. His pace also makes him a more attractive option for me.

I doubt Lacazette would be cheaper, the guy that runs Lyon is every bit the extortionist that Levy is. He's a good striker though for sure, but the fact Kane is English is an added incentive and if he goes and does the same enxt season as this we'll be talking double that figure.

 

[Macern]

The problem with Kane is that he lacks a bit of pace, which is the reason why I think he won't reach top top world class.

 

[2 man midfield]

I doubt Lacazette would be cheaper, the guy that runs Lyon is every bit the extortionist that Levy is. He's a good striker though for sure, but the fact Kane is English is an added incentive and if he goes and does the same enxt season as this we'll be talking double that figure.

Can't pretend to know too much about Lyon, but didn't Benzema go for a decent fee? He was even more in demand, and rightly so.

I'd be willing to take that chance on Kane however, we can afford it. I'd rather pay 50m knowing we're getting the real deal than 35m without knowing whether it will pay off. The fact he's English doesn't concern me either, we have enough home grown players in the squad.

 

[FujiVice]

I love Luke Shaw so this is not a knock by any means, but if he is worth £30 million a 22 year old English striker who has scored 30 goals in an average side is well worth a punt at £40 million. We are a team who will pay £30 million for a left back. We can totally afford Harry Kane. Players like him are worth a try. Especially if we increase the creativity in the midfield. If Harry Kane is going to make it as a top striker it wont be at Spurs. Its going to have to happen in the Champions League every year at a club like United. A young player who is already Premier League proven who has bags of potential to go with it is always worth going after.

I think we'll get him as well. We aren't one to shy away from overspending, Spurs will always sell at the right price and Kane's agents must be screaming at him about the opporunity to play in the CL. There's a lot of things possible about this deal.

 

[The Mitcher]

Levy is going to rip us off if we go for him, he did it with Berbatov.

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

I love Luke Shaw so this is not a knock by any means, but if Kane is worth £30 million a 22 year old English striker who has scored 30 goals in an average side is well worth a punt at £40 million. We are a team who will pay £30 million for a left back. We can totally afford Harry Kane. Players like him are worth a try. Especially if we increase the creativity in the midfield. If Harry Kane is going to make it as a top striker it wont be at Spurs. Its going to have to happen in the Champions League every year at a club like United. A young player who is already Premier League proven who has bags of potential to go with it is always worth going after.

I think we'll get him as well. We aren't one to shy away from overspending, Spurs will always sell at the right price and Kane's agents must be screaming at him about the opporunity to play in the CL. There's a lot of things possible about this deal.

Yeah, people saying 40m is a blasphemous number just haven't got their heads around what players cost these days. Kane after the season he's had and the potential people see in the lad, 40m is the lowest reasonable bid. If 30m for shaw is seen as fine due to the potential of having a world class left back for a decade, what is the value of having a potential 25-30 goals a season 22 year old english striker?

 

[2 man midfield]

Yeah, people saying 40m is a blasphemous number just haven't got their heads around what players cost these days. Kane after the season he's had and the potential people see in the lad, 40m is the lowest reasonable bid. If 30m for shaw is seen as fine due to the potential of having a world class left back for a decade, what is the value of having a potential 25-30 goals a season 22 year old english striker?

"Lowest reasonable bid" might be stretching it. That's the maximum i'd expect to pay to be honest. Neymar went for 41m*, albeit in 2013, and he was widely considered the best young talent for a generation. I do acknowledge that the market has gone full retard in the few years, but imo there is still no way Harry Kane is worth 40m. I can't see anyone else meeting that valuation either.

*officially.

 

[prarek]

How good is Kane's link up play?

Id say its pretty good actually.

 

[limerickcitykid]

The problem with Kane is that he lacks a bit of pace, which is the reason why I think he won't reach top top world class.

He is far from slow and where has this absurd idea come from that a striker needs to be fast to be world class?

 

[Macern]

He is far from slow and where has this absurd idea come from that a striker needs to be fast to be world class?

Because you need a lot of pace to be on that level unless you're Ibrahimovic or some other monster with other extreme skills.

I'm talking about top top world class (one of the top 10 players in the world) and I don't see Kane reaching that level.

 

[Macern]

Id say its pretty good actually.

I'd say it's great, I think it is one of his biggest strengths.

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

"Lowest reasonable bid" might be stretching it. That's the maximum i'd expect to pay to be honest. Neymar went for 41m*, albeit in 2013, and he was widely considered the best young talent for a generation. I do acknowledge that the market has gone full retard in the few years, but imo there is still no way Harry Kane is worth 40m. I can't see anyone else meeting that valuation either.

*officially.

Your opinion is fair, but your example isn't really relevant to how kane should be valued seeing how as you point out yourself, the actual cost of the Neymar transfer we will never know, but it is reported to have been minimum of 80m euro's. I just see it as, we have proven in the last few windows that value isn't the main concern for us as a club right now, we went and paid 30m pounds for a left back, 60m for di maria, 28m for fellaini etc. pretty much every player we've brought in the last 2 years has been overpriced by 25-30% thats just something thats going to happen when everyone and their nans know we are totally loaded and looking to rebuild our squad. Spurs wont sell their main man and biggest asset for 25-30m because they themselves wouldnt be able to replace his value to the squad with that amount of money. Sure 40-45m seems on the high end, but i don't see a huge risk in kane he has absolutely destroyed some top teams this yearm his performance against chelsea was insane. we need a striker in the summer, and if that target is kane, spurs wont be selling cheap.

 

[Devil may care]

Can't pretend to know too much about Lyon, but didn't Benzema go for a decent fee? He was even more in demand, and rightly so.

I'd be willing to take that chance on Kane however, we can afford it. I'd rather pay 50m knowing we're getting the real deal than 35m without knowing whether it will pay off. The fact he's English doesn't concern me either, we have enough home grown players in the squad.

Benzema went for £37M 6 years ago when that was still considered a sizeable fee for a player his age.

Well with transfers there are so many various risk factors, we only need to look at Di Maria to see that. I think the English part matters to a degree, it's not enough to just have enough homegrown players to pad out the squad and meet the quota, if there are English/British players that are of a very high standard or potential standard (Shaw, Kane, Stones) United should always be in for them IMO as they are less likely to leave than the Spanish and South American players, thus preventing our team being disrupted too often.

Because you need a lot of pace to be on that level unless you're Ibrahimovic or some other monster with other extreme skills.

I'm talking about top top world class (one of the top 10 players in the world) and I don't see Kane reaching that level.

I wouldn't say Kane was slower than Benzema or Lewandowksi, or indeed RvP when he was at his peak.

 

[2 man midfield]

Benzema went for £37M 6 years ago when that was still considered a sizeable fee for a player his age.

Well with transfers there are so many various risk factors, we only need to look at Di Maria to see that. I think the English part matters to a degree, it's not enough to just have enough homegrown players to pad out the squad and meet the quota, if there are English/British players that are of a very high standard or potential standard (Shaw, Kane, Stones) United should always be in for them IMO as they are less likely to leave than the Spanish and South American players, thus preventing our team being disrupted too often.

Benzema went for 35m euros rising to 41m according to Lyon's website. Not sure what that was in Sterling in 2009, obviously the euro is much weaker now.

http://www.olweb.fr/fr/article/transfert-de-karim-benzema-au-real-madrid-50470.html

The English part doesn't concern me, i'd much rather just go after the better player.

Your opinion is fair, but your example isn't really relevant to how kane should be valued seeing how as you point out yourself, the actual cost of the Neymar transfer we will never know, but it is reported to have been minimum of 80m euro's. I just see it as, we have proven in the last few windows that value isn't the main concern for us as a club right now, we went and paid 30m pounds for a left back, 60m for di maria, 28m for fellaini etc. pretty much every player we've brought in the last 2 years has been overpriced by 25-30% thats just something thats going to happen when everyone and their nans know we are totally loaded and looking to rebuild our squad. Spurs wont sell their main man and biggest asset for 25-30m because they themselves wouldnt be able to replace his value to the squad with that amount of money. Sure 40-45m seems on the high end, but i don't see a huge risk in kane he has absolutely destroyed some top teams this yearm his performance against chelsea was insane. we need a striker in the summer, and if that target is kane, spurs wont be selling cheap.

Then they can keep him imo. I don't believe he's worth that, and i seriously doubt any other clubs will cough up that amount either. When it comes to investing in young talent, obviously United should always be interested. We paid 27m for Rooney in 2004, but at that stage he had already had 2 full seasons at Everton under his belt, plus 4 goals at the European Championships. I just don't think we've seen enough from Kane yet to justify spending that kind of money on him under the 'special category' type banner.

 

[Bwuk]

The problem with Kane would be, we'd always still play Rooney.

Rooney & Kane would lack pace. Rooney would probably drop into the #10 role, but I'd rather someone quicker since LvG won't drop Rooney.

 

[Borys]

We might need him this summer. Van Persie doesn't look like he's got much to offer anymore.
Maybe he will not feck off to spain.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Just not going to happen this summer for me.

 

[Pyroblazer]

Would be a stupid signing anyway. He just had one season, if he is good enough we can sign him next year too. And no, his fee won't increase. He is already on ridiculous 45m pounds, his hype is already on an annoying level and even if he plays a second good season it won't be comparable with his breakthrough hype. No need to make a panic signing now, if we want to add a young striker up front, we should look at Vietto, who has shown more for me and only costs half the money, also much more flexible in an attacking 3 than Kane.

 

[Tarrou]

Would be a stupid signing anyway. He just had one season, if he is good enough we can sign him next year too. And no, his fee won't increase. He is already on ridiculous 45m pounds, his hype is already on an annoying level and even if he plays a second good season it won't be comparable with his breakthrough hype. No need to make a panic signing now, if we want to add a young striker up front, we should look at Vietto, who has shown more for me and only costs half the money, also much more flexible in an attacking 3 than Kane.

Of course his fee would increase if he has a good second season. Is Harry Kane price fixed? LOL

 

[matherto]

I love Luke Shaw so this is not a knock by any means, but if he is worth £30 million a 22 year old English striker who has scored 30 goals in an average side is well worth a punt at £40 million. We are a team who will pay £30 million for a left back. We can totally afford Harry Kane. Players like him are worth a try. Especially if we increase the creativity in the midfield. If Harry Kane is going to make it as a top striker it wont be at Spurs. Its going to have to happen in the Champions League every year at a club like United. A young player who is already Premier League proven who has bags of potential to go with it is always worth going after.

I think we'll get him as well. We aren't one to shy away from overspending, Spurs will always sell at the right price and Kane's agents must be screaming at him about the opporunity to play in the CL. There's a lot of things possible about this deal.

1) Shaw isn't worth £30 million, we just got utterly fleeced by Southampton's owners. Similarly Lovren isn't worth £20m and Lallana £25m but they managed to get it.

2) Agreed that we are able to afford him

3) He's not already Premier League proven is he? He's had one good year, of which he's tailed off towards the end and barely scored at all. We need to wait at least another year until you could call him 'proven'. I'd be more inclined to suggest he'll get second season syndrome next year and really struggle, if I had any money I'd bet on it.

4) I must admit if I was Levy I'd cash in but that's based on the fact I don't think he'll ever be worth what he is now again.

 

[Cee90]

A lot of people mentioning Wilson in here.

Do you honestly rate him higher than Kane?

(Serious question btw).

 

[Cassidy]

Of course his fee would increase if he has a good second season. Is Harry Kane price fixed? LOL

Not really sure it would much, I mean maybe to £50m, but after two good seasons can you really price a striker over £50m?
Remembering thats how much Chelsea bought Torres for and not far off what Barca paid for Saurez?

 

[Cassidy]

A lot of people mentioning Wilson in here.

Do you honestly rate him higher than Kane?

(Serious question btw).

Kane is obviously better and ahead of Wilson in his development.
However I believe at the same age Wilson is more talented and higher rated, doesn't mean however Wilson will ever reach the heights Kane has this season. Its strange though because, whilst Kane was rated at u21 level, not many thought he was anything special about a year ago.

 

[stepic]

seems people are happy to pay £40-45m for Kane but a lot don't even want to pay that for someone proven like Bale. very weird priorities. i don't mind Kane but he'd be too big of a risk for that price for me. i'd prefer to pay £60m next year if he continues to perform in his 2nd year.

 

[Sylar]

Whilst Kane may dream about CL and competing for trophies, for his own personal development,(and hes only 21) he should remain at Spurs and have another full season there especially if he believes in himself.

The move will then come (if Spurs dont make CL football) and he will be even more sought after.

 

[m1y2]

when you look at his mentality, you know he will be a star, so there is no doubt we should do our utmost o get him, there are not many players like him in the league, he's got everything and is 21, will get much better, if anything his stamina and determination is aawesome so he could lead the line and press the opposition. He will be much better than someone like RVP who barely walks..

If there are any other options out there I'm not sure I don't watch much of games outside of Premier league, he's proven or doesn't seem to struggle with the tempo of the league like Falcao.. WHo knows how good Dybala can be or Lacazette.. another guess is Benteke..

 

[Mindhunter]

Not really sure it would much, I mean maybe to £50m, but after two good seasons can you really price a striker over £50m?
Remembering thats how much Chelsea bought Torres for and not far off what Barca paid for Saurez?

Torres is a good example but Liverpool already had an inkling that he is in decline and they got rid at the right time. Suarez had a lot of baggage. I am sure he would have gone for at least 80m pounds if he did not get a taste of Chelleini.

 

[Tarrou]

Not really sure it would much, I mean maybe to £50m, but after two good seasons can you really price a striker over £50m?
Remembering thats how much Chelsea bought Torres for and not far off what Barca paid for Saurez?

That's working on the assumption that the figure of £45 million is actually his price now, whereas in reality we don't know how much he'd cost. Levy could tell us to get fecked for £50 million now, for all we know. If he does well in his second season, his price will definitely go up in Levy's eyes, which is all that counts if you're looking to buy.

 

[Cassidy]

Torres is a good example but Liverpool already had an inkling that he is in decline and they got rid at the right time. Suarez had a lot of baggage. I am sure he would have gone for at least 80m pounds if he did not get a taste of Chelleini.

Yes but are you seriously putting Kane at that level was my point. Thats world class level, Kane shouldn't be commanding such a fee