You clearly did ignore them, as you included neither in your list of compelling reasons for justifying a fee of £180m for Kane. Dreamland.
Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."
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You clearly did ignore them, as you included neither in your list of compelling reasons for justifying a fee of £180m for Kane. Dreamland.
If Kane leaves it's midtable mediocrity for Spurs for the next decade or so. I'd even fancy Arsenal to finish ahead of them.
Unprofessional from Kane. He chose to sign his contract knowing how shrewd Levy is when it comes to negotiations, so he should’ve included a release clause or a reduced length of extension.
Spurs are right to hold out for whatever they deem he is worth. I think City will sign him eventually, cash+players.
Spurs are right to hold out for whatever they deem he is worth. I think City will sign him eventually, cash+players.
No I just decided they were bollocks. Harry Kane played in 35/38 PL games last year. You’re just parroting the usual nonsense.
It all depends on what the gentleman's agreement was, which we'll probably never find out.
If Levy has gone back on his word (what a shock that would be) then Kane is entitled to go on strike in my opinion. It would also make Levy a bounder and a cad, certainly not a gentleman
If Levy has gone back on his word (what a shock that would be) then Kane is entitled to go on strike in my opinion. It would also make Levy a bounder and a cad, certainly not a gentleman
I don't think it is crazy. Grealish is more likely to have resale value than Kane when it comes to the end of his contract. Kane would be 33 at the end of his and with his persistent ankle problems it wouldn't be a surprise if he was done at the top level at that point. Grealish's numbers were elite across Europe last season when it came to chance creation. Whilst he only has one season to show at that level there's a big chance that he becomes one of Europe's top creative players at City.
It’s a Covid rampaged market. His market price ain’t 150 million as no club in the world gonna pay that. Good for Spurs not being bullied, but that ain’t an negotiating tactic, it’s basically saying the player ain’t for sale.
Maybe it's because I'm more of a "common man", but if they made a gentleman's agreement behind closed doors and Levy dishonors it now, then I don't blame Kane one bit. In that case, the only argument Levy has left is; "a contract is a contract". Just because you have a contract it does not mean that you're ethically in the right.
You could argue that Kane was stupid for making such a deal, but he's not morally in the wrong, imo.
That is assuming that they did make an agreement, though. If Kane just got cold feet after signing the contract then he's a dick. In that scenario it wouldn't be Levy's fault.
I don't think so - we will have a huge amount of cash to spend on refreshing the squad which is badly needed.
I wonder what the specifics are? Kane had a verbal agreement with Levy and Levy has not accepted the amount City are prepared to pay? I thought the other day City had shied away from a Kane deal?
Traore played literally all his football for Villa from the right.
So basically they are replacing Grealish in the same way that we have signed Sancho to replace Rashford then. As in, a different type of player playing in a different position but generally in an attacking area so it must mean the end for Marcus.
RedCafe would be up in flames, people foaming in the mouth shouting all sort of expletives.
Aye and what happened us with Ronaldo we had to let him go it’s their Ronaldo moment, they’ll be alright though will only take them 10 years to get back to where the are now.
It all depends on what the gentleman's agreement was, which we'll probably never find out.
If Levy has gone back on his word (what a shock that would be) then Kane is entitled to go on strike in my opinion. It would also make Levy a bounder and a cad, certainly not a gentleman
Levy has agreed to sell him if City meet the clubs valuation - that's the agreement. The ball is in City's court. Who do you think should set a players valuation - the player or a club chairman?
Yeah, I get that, but the previous point still stands. Going on strike to force a move at the very least devalues the concept of a contract. The club is essentially being held to ransom by a legally contracted player who signed a deal to play for the club for an indeterminate number of years.
I don't know, just seems wrong.
Spurs should hold Kane to the contract. The strike made this into a matter of principle. Other Spurs players would do the same. Even though he has just signed an extension, Son might seek the greener pasture. I also hope United would never be the instigator for such unprofessional behavior.
That’s completely the wrong way to think how it should work. Just because a footballer wants to leave and not play for the club anymore doesn’t mean he should just get his wish.
Based on that view, what is the point of a contract from the clubs perspective? If you are saying he should be allowed to leave because he doesn’t want to play anymore. Then contracts are useless and only benefit the player.
If he Kane didn’t want to have the risk of being in a situation where he was at the mercy of the club, then he shouldn’t have signed a 6 year contract. He was happy to do so to secure his future. Can’t have it both ways.
Grealish is a COVID rampaged market. If city want him they can pay a fee that reflects his value. It isn’t difficult. They don’t get to set the price and make him go on strike.
How would the Spurs fans react to Kane going on strike?
We have a similar situation with Pogba, who may be leaving on a free at the end of the season.
OMFG you said...
He DIDNT, he spent less than a year there and he didn't move from Arsenal to Spurs either.
Oh for crying out loud if you want to be specific, get specific.
I corrected myself and in fact if you want to get specific Harry himself has said he spent TWO years there
Poor source as its a report on an Instagram LIVE so can’t get the replay for evidence
“I went to Arsenal academy at about six or seven,” Kane said. “That’s the truth, I was there for two years – they released me, but I won’t go into details why. I went back to Ridgeway Rovers. Tottenham picked me up when I was 1
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/tbrf...arry-kane-discusses-arsenal-academy-exit/?amp
Goals and assists you’re looking to replace does it matter when Grealish played across the front 3?
Bailey can play left and right I’ve heard and Beundia can play central, that’s if you add JWP as well
Exactly this. If he wants to leave, he should hand in a transfer request and continue fulfilling his contract until sold. He won't because it means he won't get the pay off for the rest of his contract. Gentleman's agreement means nothing. He signed the contract, he should have insisted in specific clauses in it or even a minimum fee release clause. I don't like Levy but for the captain of club and country to behave like this, its disgraceful. If a player behaved like this for United, I guarantee there wouldn't be many supporting him.
Laughable standpoint. Why still have contracts at all then if players can just decide whenever they want if they wanna continue to play for a club or not?
You say Levy needs to be reasonable, I'd say honouring a contract you signed three years ago is a quite reasonable thing to do.
Rio is spot on, and I wonder wonder why that would be.
He's only due at the ground for a covid test today, he's due to start training tomorrow. He's far from an unprofessional player, especially with loyalty to such an average football team like Spurs.
The trouble is clubs often use contracts to protect the value of the player with the intention if selling. There's a good chance he signed it with both him and Levy presuming he would leave at some point during the contract, but he agreed to a longer one so Spurs would get as big a fee as possible for him.
Obviously I don't know what has gone on behind closed doors at Spurs, but I would gamble that it is more likely that Levy, who has a history of being a complete cnut, is being the cnut in this instance than Kane, who has a history of giving his all for Spurs.
One side of the argument will be - He has signed long term contract and he should respect that.
Other side would be - he had gentlemen agreement with Levy.
I don't know why players, especially the top ones don't insist for release clause.
Other side would be - he had gentlemen agreement with Levy.
I don't know why players, especially the top ones don't insist for release clause.
Spurs will have to sell. Kane can easily afford to sit it out.
In his mindset he’s no longer a Spurs player, he’s said his goodbye‘s. There’s no point keeping a player who wants out.
In his mindset he’s no longer a Spurs player, he’s said his goodbye‘s. There’s no point keeping a player who wants out.
It depends how it’s spent. We remember what happened the last time Spurs had a huge amount of cash to spend from the Bale sale.
Hes been loyal enough and a footballers career is short. He wants to move so he can win some trophies, who can bregudge him that? Obviously its not that simple. Trying to convince a city player to join spurs might be tough as a makeweight.
If he were potentially signing for Utd and not City the reaction on here would be very different.
Yeah of course - but its been obvious for a few years now that our squad needs a total overhaul so selling Kane would enable us to do that - you are right though, need to get the right players.
Well by all accounts he hasn't turned up for training. If certain clause were met on this gentleman's agreement and Levy still didn't agree, then you can understand why Kane hasn't turned up.
Of course gentleman's agreements aren't worth a thing in a court of law, however, if you're having to take it to a court of law as a footballer and a chairman, then relationships are already broken beyond return.
This is why no gentleman's agreement should be in place from the beginning. A gentleman's agreement being broken is somewhat worse than having a legal contract in place.
Spurs fans are already absolutely disgusted in him for whats happened today - if this continues and he essentially goes on strike then he will go from one of the most loved Spurs players in recent history to being utterly hated. It's especially bad because he is a boyhood Spurs fan and the entire 'myth' (I now say myth) was that he is 'one of our own'. No Spurs fan would have bemoaned him leaving the club for City because we know the situation and he deserves a big move eventually however he has just thrown all of that good will away if he strikes.
Of course it matters where they play. These are players they would have been looking to bring in regardless of whether Grealish left. Put it this way, I’d be amazed if they didn’t go for another left sided player if he did go.
I think too much is being made of this. What if he just couldnt make it to training due to his kid being sick or something along those lines?
Yep, it's clear clubs do this to protect value. There is no secret there, I should think the club and the agents and therefore player are fully aware of this fact. However that doesn't necessarily mean Kane did it in a selfless act or it was packaged as a deal that meant Spurs could sell for X amount. There are two sides at work and both are clearly out for their own interests.
The trouble is Kane knows this but signs a bumper contract because it's the best thing for him at the time financially. Now the best thing for Harry Kane is to be sold, apparently. So now he's working to that end it would appear. The players want everything, they want the stability of a long deal, eye watering wages and the expectation that the club will sell them if they perceive that it's better for their career. That's not a fair expectation in my opinion.
If Levy somehow deceived Kane then it is wrong but this is the whole point of adequate representation for the player. He can receive advice with some amount of expertise and when he signs the contract he knows what his obligations are, throwing his toys out now just doesn't cut it.