Levy will take City offer?
If Kane communicates he wants to go per the gentlemen's agreement. Makes it difficult to say no I think.
If Kane communicates he wants to go per the gentlemen's agreement. Makes it difficult to say no I think.
Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."
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Not quite true if you believe the Amnesty annual reports. The only country to do any beheadings last year worldwide was Saudi Arabia, and the UAE actually had zero death sentences last year and the year before. I haven’t look before that but it is far more prominent in many other countries across the Middle East, USA & China. Not to defend anything about the UAE, but I think we should work with the facts available.
Anyway, hope we sign Kane.
Is there a source for that deadline? If its true i wonder if City would move onto a backup target this summer or join the queue next summer to try to convince haaland not to go to Madrid.
Exactly. Man City and PSG will just announce a tourism partnerships with Abu Dhabi and Qatar worth a gazillion billions and keep spending. Its all rubbish.
I agree with you. Supposedly that's why we have fit and proper persons tests. However, I've never been able to work out why that test doesn't tend to stop anyone who wants to own a football club from owning it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jalisco new generation cartel bought an English football club to be honest.
1 day before matchday 1
Any other player would be getting pelters for this but not 'Saint' Harry.
Would be funny if - with the score drawn, Spurs get a penalty in the 90th minute with Kane on the pitch
If City get him we have no chance of the title this season, We'd need Haaland and a top CDM to keep up.
Sterling/Grealish Kane/Jesus/Torres Foden/Mahrez
De Bruyne/Silva
Unreal depth
Sterling/Grealish Kane/Jesus/Torres Foden/Mahrez
De Bruyne/Silva
Unreal depth
Must be a relief to know your owners took a break from beheading their citizens for a year. When you put it that way, focusing on their propaganda project breaking the British transfer record twice in one season and thereby continuing to twist the english league dramatically out of shape is quite palatable by comparison.
I know you're trying to be balanced and I'm not trying to attack you specifically, but there's absolutely nothing justifiable about what City are.
It's frankly a dereliction of duty that the media doesn't mention this on a daily basis. I get why it's happened. The City project has been incredibly effective, whatever way you slice it. On a sporting level they are magnificent, a genuine template for how to turn a pure financial advantage into sustained sporting dominance. But every day it continues to be allowed is a stain on the game. The fact that there was the level of outrage we saw with the super league, and we haven't seen the same outrage when an abhorrent nation state buys a proud traditional club and turns it into its own personal propaganda machine is a disgrace. Add to the fact that they've basically irreparably damaged the competitiveness of the league in England and there's absolutely no moral justification for it, regardless of the sporting excellence.
Exactly what I was thinking. How the hell did we get in this situation.
They do? My impression of UAE is that they are now very western-oriented. Couldn't find anything from Amnesty on public beheadings in UAE and Abu Dhabi in general.
Wherever there is big money someone at the bottom is getting shafted. The oil states are particularly egregious, but the government is clearly never going to say anything, so City can get to keep making their faked sponsorships.
The Pau Torres rumours surely means he's off? I know the Romero transfer was loan with obligation, but they seem to be chucking the cash about.
In his first PC, he gave a definitive answer. Guess things have changed.
They execute people by firing squad, hanging or stoning. Don't think it tends to be public though. The UAE has institutionalised slavery (Kafala contracts, where workers, largely from India, Pakistan, the Philippines and Ethiopia have their passports taken by their employer on arrival, to be returned when their employer decides) and polygamy (the prime minister of dubai has 6 wives and has used the Emirati military police to abduct 2 of his own daughters when they tried to leave the country). Also they have a really long recent record of arresting and torturing foreigners and holding them indefinitely in solitary confinement, including a PhD researcher from Durham University. That's not even going into its role in the wars in Yemen and Ethiopia, 2 of the most horrific wars going on in the world today
They aren't really 'western-oriented' in any sense, other than having built close relationships (read arms and oil sales) with the UK and US. The only reason you don't read more about them in the news is cos they're really well connected (the pm of dubai is one of the biggest landowners in the UK) and because of propaganda like the sportswashing going on at city. If Iran had done some of this stuff it would be front page news around the world.
Feck the UAE.
I've expected this to happen since his interview with Neville. City will sell Bernado and cook the books to give Spurs what they want. Kane has played his part and Spurs can't afford to turn down silly money.
You are simply too naive to believe anything unwritten from Levy. City is not.
Sums it up pretty well.
Been there, majestic looking cities but you can literally see the slave trade going on in the streets. They have something like a 3rd of the worlds cranes in that area. There are shuttle buses everywhere packed full of Indians/Pakistanis. Their health and safety regime is basically none existent. They pay these guys peanuts (I mean probably what you could buy a pack of peanuts with over here) per month.
It’s a racist, sexist, homophobic side of the world that doesn’t take much to look past the big skyscrapers and money to see what’s happening. Obviously this happens wherever big money is but honestly the scale is just off the charts in comparison.
It’s not even hidden. Knowing City has basically built on that money is just…yeh.
Don't quite know what your point is here?
you wot mate
That you won't know either way until the end of the window.
He will be sold, I'm 99% sure of that.
It was not about being sold or not.
Personally it makes me a lot calmer to know UAE didn't have public beheadings for a whole year.
Levy is the last person you would want to have a gentleman agreement with.
Kane has done so much for spurs and deserve to leave with respect and dignity.
Kane has done so much for spurs and deserve to leave with respect and dignity.
Levy isn’t saying Kane will not leave no matter what. He is saying Kane can leave as long as his evaluation is met. So whatever the asking price pay it and Kane is yours. Until that happens Kane needs to show up to work and do his job. And you don’t think Spurs have done anything for him? Doesn’t he need to treat the club, that gave him a chance to play, with dignity and respect?
Isnt the 'speculation' that him and Levy agreed on a 100mil offer and he can leave?. I know i would be pissed if that was agreed, even if not on paper, and then Levy comes out wanting 150mil.
Anyway its Kane's fault anyway as he was so stupid to not put a release clause in that deal he signed.
In fact this whole saga is tedious as hell as you know 99% that he will be a City player by the end of the window.
Exactly that’s just speculation. When no one knows the truth you can’t come out and speak like Kane is being played and held hostage.
Also £100m last year isn’t the same as this year. They need to account for inflation and for Covid. Last year teams couldn’t afford that but this year they are more capable of that.
What if Levy set the price at 200mil? IMO, Kane has already stayed a very long time at Spurs because he loves the club. Kane can easily get much higher salary at other club had he not stayed with Spurs for so long. But at his age now, Levy should listen to realistic offer and let him go to have new challenges elsewhere to fulfill his dreams.
The realistic fee is around 100 to 120mil in the current COVID-19 situation. If this was the price, I think City or other major clubs can pay this. But it seems, Levy want much higher.
No one held Kane with a gun to his head when he signed his current contract
No amount of football tribal storytelling is going to change that reality
No amount of football tribal storytelling is going to change that reality
"Gentlemen agreement"
Who are you tell to Levy what to charge for his player? It’s your opinion he is worth £100-120m. But it’s Levy’s opinion he is worth £150m. Yeah Kane will get a higher salary had he signed for City but he was happy he was getting a raise at Spurs that he signed a 6 year contract.
If Levy had a “gentlemen’s agreement” with Kane then Kane had a contractual agreement, which is actually a legally binding doc that, to play for Spurs for the next 6 years when he signed the contract. You don’t get to leave just cause you’re bored or you don’t want to play anymore.
While I agree with the general idea that Levy is well within his rights to charge whatever he deems fit for the player under contract, I do find it funny that Levy's opinion of his transfer value does not match the wage he pays him.
Obviously that is just more evidence of Kane's naivety and his brothers ineptitude, but a part of me does think it's a bit rich that Levy pays the player the wages of a £70-100m player, but wants significantly more than that to sell him.
I'm actually convinced that he won't be. Levy has no need to sell, and even if City did come up with the 150mil that he wants, it's almost too late in the window for Spurs to spend it. I said at the start of the window that Kane would stay and I'm honestly more convinced than ever at this stage.
What does wages paid have to do with the transfer fee?
This is exactly my point in the first place, Levy is the last person you want to have a gentleman agreement with. His evaluation of players differ depending whether he is selling or buying players.
He is well within his rights to evaluate Kane to be 200mil player or more. But general consensus in the market he is not worth the price whatever Levy is asking for now.
I believe eventually Kane will be sold but without the respect and dignity he deserve after contributed so much for Spurs.
They are both measures by which to value a player.
Both Levy and Kane are well aware of the market value of footballers around them. By offering him a contract on £200k a week, Levy was showing Kane that he valued him at around the same level as counterparts such as Martial, Maguire, Van Dijk and Chilwell, players who have gone for between £50 and £100m in recent windows. By accepting that offer, you could well say Kane was happy to agree with that valuation.
Now Levy is saying that £100m is not enough to buy Kane, and that he is a £150m or more player. Well that is fine, that's his prerogative - but Kane is certainly within his rights to question why that value is suddenly so much higher than the value Levy set when negotiating his wages.
When you start talking about £150m for players, the wages tend to reflect those valuations. Mbappe is on £400k a week, Lukaku has just signed something similar following his £100m+ transfer. God only knows what Neymar is on.
Levy is having his cake and eating it. He can do that because Kane and his brother were so monumentally stupid when negotiating that last deal, but their naivety doesn't change the fact that Levy is being a bit of a dick.
Levy maybe a dick, but he is doing what is best for the club. I don't see a problem in it. Ronaldo, when he was sold, was the most expensive player. Was his wages at United at that time reflecting as the highest paid player in the world? I seriously doubt that. So this notion that the current wages and the future sell-on value of a player must be directly proportionate is silly, especially considering how the transfer fees have exploded since the Neymar transfer.
Going by your logic, if City do sign Kane for 50-60 mil as his current wages are around 200k/week, then his salary at City should remain similar to his current wages. Why should he get a major bump?
It's common sense that the club buying you at those prices will give you a wage on par with the amount they have spent on your transfer. Expecting the current club to somehow reduce their transfer fee when the new deal was negotiated 3-4 years prior is being disingenuous.
Also, feck City. Hopefully Spurs can hold on to him. Why on Earth would anyone be bothered about Kane's desires to win something while that is directly strengthening a close rival.
United were paying Ronaldo enormous wages by the time he left. I remember there was £200k a week on the table which was right up there with the highest paid players anywhere at the time. (It's also, coincidentally, the same £200k a week that reflects the transfer fee he went for then, that £200k seems to match in transfer fees now, for all the talk of fees exploding since Neymar).
There have also been several times where a club has turned down a significant offer for a player, only for the player to demand wages that reflected the value of the offer turned down. That's pretty commonplace.
And finally, yes feck City. I'll be delighted if they don't get Kane. That doesn't prevent me from having a rational, grown up conversation about the specifics of this situation.
Again, barely any club in the world would offer a new contract to a player who is barely half way through his existing contract. There are exceptions to all cases but they are few amd far between.
When Ronaldo signed the new deal (1 year before he was actually sold and the year where Blatter made those crazy slave remarks), he did it to protect his value for the club and to also ensure he is protected in case something happens during the season. SAF gave him his word that they would sell him for 80mil and that was intimated to Madrid quite early as the transfer went through quickly.
Nothing similar to Harry Kane's situation. He signed a contract on very large wages 3 years back and now wants Levy to bend over to City's wishes to get him for cheaper than Spurs are willing to sell for. If he is that distraught, why has he not put in a transfer request?
It seems like it's Kane who wants to have his cake and eat it too, rather than Levy.