To be fair, it’s possible he’s only playing the deep playmaker role for Spurs because they have absolutely zero creativity in the team without him. He’d probably play higher up if he had Eriksen and Fernandes behind him.
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To be fair, it’s possible he’s only playing the deep playmaker role for Spurs because they have absolutely zero creativity in the team without him. He’d probably play higher up if he had Eriksen and Fernandes behind him.
Outside EPL clubs will be 60m-70m. EPL clubs will need to pay 100m. That’s how Levy works. But if we need to pay 100m, I would rather pay that money in proven world class striker like Kane than unproven one. Just look at Casemiro signing and compare it to Sancho’s signing.
History also proves how we have won the league with RVP. Also, i don't remember a Serie A No.9 banging 25 goals in the prem.
Salah did okay at Liverpool though admittedly he's not a number 9.
Anonymous again today. I don't get the obsession many have with signing him myself, certainly not for £80m plus fees. He's only going to decline at this point.
No thanks.
It’s odd as he records fantastic numbers but when you watch him he rarely seems all that threatening to me. I guess he just doesn’t waste many, he’s an incredible finisher. I just don’t like the way he’s often closer to the centre circle than the opponents goal when Spurs break forward. His teammates are far ahead of him. Still, the goals are coming from somewhere (aside from penalties).
Sorry, but this is a classic knee-jerk reaction after he had a game off. Here we are talking about the all-time leading goalscorer for England and possibly the all-time leading goalscorer of EPL - not saying we have to sign him but the amount of disrespect is just unreal. It's unfair to him as he's been one of the most consistent performers in the league this season despite his team playing *hit.
If Spurs play hardball then wait a year and sign him on a free (sign a good young striker in the meantime).
That’s the thing though. He’s all time scorer, records already broken, meaning he is on the decline now. Only natural his peak has coke and gone now he’s in his latter years.
I think he's scored only half from open play this year with the rest pens and set pieces (a lot of headers).
Nope i've been consistent in my view to look elsewhere. He was similarly anonymous last week, but scored the one chance he got in the second half.
I'd rather we find the next big thing coming into their prime, not the one Spurs have had all his best years from and give them a huge fee.
I think the idea Weghorst is the type of striker he likes the most is probably speculative at best. I'd say Weghorst is the type of striker that is available on a short term loan and it is pretty hard to extrapolate from that what the manager's reasoning would be around a big money, long term signing.
Frankly, i would hate it if we singed him. I hope we go elsewhere.
Definitely.
He seemed to really like Martial and was looking to start the season with him until injuries kicked in.
Ronaldo's situation meant we needed an emergency available short termer.
Yeah I watched all his goals this season on youtube and they're classic number 9 goals, headers and a lot of penalties. Having a great fox in the box and a creator who can drop deep would be fantastic but i keep looking at our team and thinking a more dynamic pacy striker who can press would suit us more.
I'm in no way diminishing his ability and he's obviously a world class player but between a massive fee and his playing style i'm not so sure about this unless it's a free transfer a season later.
I'm like you, I have misgivings. But most seem to tell me he's peak of his ability and exactly what we need.
It's one thing saying he can be the one pinging balls for the likes of Rashy to get after, but we need a striker getting up there himself.
Will Kane actually take the pens too? We've just got all over that Bruno / Ronaldo uncertainty.
Its really not kneejerk. I've watched a lot of Spurs games in the last month and I think its extremely obvious that he's on the decline. He just happens to still be an amazing finisher so his number will always be respectable.
He's not someone I'd feel comfortable spending up to £100m on. Add in the pressure of the big move and this could be a deal we look back on in a year and regret.
People seem to think he'll magically return to playing the striker role the way he did in the past. That Kane is gone, this new No.10 hybrid is what he is and we really don't need that.
2 seasons ago he was worth the transfer fee.
This summer he isn’t! would be such an expensive short term signing.
This summer he isn’t! would be such an expensive short term signing.
This has Alexis Sanchez written all over it.
It doesn't remotely have that vibe.
This fecking does my head in for England and is a massive part of why I don't want to spend a stupid sum on him.
Its perfect for us. Our play is often too direct with Rashford and Bruno and needs a calmness. Rashford lives for running behind the defenders so it's the perfect mix on paper. More so than Osimhen because Osimhen and Rashford are of a similar mould, just one prefers central and one prefers wide areas.
Kane brings a composure and balance that's integral for control in advanced areas. And he's positionally extremely clever to be a fox in the box too.
Kane is perfect for us in my opinion.
Completely killed Dele and Eriksen Spurs careers with this shit then fans have the balls to argue back against why he only seems to score penalties for England over the past 3 seasons
I really couldn't disagree more, you seem to be describing what we get from Eriksen. How we set up now, we need someone far more mobile.
He gets such a free ride from criticism about Spurs. The teams built around him, so he can't not shoulder any of the blame.
Eriksen plays a lot deeper. Kane is a player who brings the composure Eriksen brings but in advanced areas when we need it more. Along with lethal positioning and finishing.
As an example, I remember this Saka chance against France at 02:23 in this video. At the time as Shaw was running through I remember looking into the box to see where Kane was for a pickout and he was just miles off about 40 yards away.
It’s not an isolated incident either, I’m always watching for his position in these kind of breaks and it isn’t uncommon for him to not be attacking the 6 yard box when the ball is wide in a fast break. In that particular attack, it is a WC quarter final where you are losing and chasing a goal.
For me, our team is too fast for Kane. He’s too one-paced. This is why I think he was always a better fit for City than he is for United. I think the very best of him requires large territorial control for his team. Not high-speed transitional football. We will of course have territorial advantage over a lot of teams too, but I can’t see us putting in a performance like the first half last week against Everton with Kane up front.
We need a player who can link like Kane I agree, but also someone more dynamic I feel as the rest of our attackers play at high speed. You don’t even need to be rapid, Martial isn’t lightning like he used to be, but I do think you need to be more mobile than Kane.
But he doesn't, he tends to do all his composure around the centre circle and never makes it to the box.
I agree with @Rozay, our team is too fast in transition for him. Think that makes him a bad match for the money we need to invest in him.
Weird that. How the hell has he scored 20 plus goals for Spurs this season?!
If you see Sabitizer’s goal the other day Martial was in that Kane position. Yes it’s to do with not being as fast as before but it’s also being technically good enough to want to get involved in the build up and not being a useless statue like CR7 as he pace went.
All I’m saying is I wouldn’t worry about that.. if ETH wants him sticking up top that’s how he will play. He has one of if not the most intelligent hold up play in the league.
I think that's risky personally. With the games left this season and next season it is quite unlikely but possible he has the PL goals record. He needs 54 from a potential 45 games. Like I say unlikely
If so that opens the door up more to a move abroad.More importantly we'd miss out on one of his final peak years, and no transfer fee also probably puts his wage demands up. No transfer fee also means Liverpool and Arsenal may enter the race, even City if Haaland moved on.
Even for 100m I'd chance it assuming we stay within FFP and ship some out.
It’s a concern I share about Martial’s game too, and I love the guy. It was one of the things I was specifically watching on Thursday and last weekend.
I have no problem with dropping deep, but too often Martial drops deep and links with his full back or midfielders, and then when they then progress towards the byline, I check and see that he hasn’t in turn sprinted towards the penalty box. It’s frustrating, and very ‘Arsenal-like’ almost (traditionally speaking). First and foremost, your 9 should be in the box when crosses are going across, and he should also be in the box so that it’s an option in the first place to put something in there.
Take Osimhen, who I don’t think is the perfect fit either, but he is very different. He has a clear and obvious desire to score goals, and whenever his team looks like they are building any play forward - he will be sprinting to try and get into an area where he can score. I don’t think it has to be one extreme or the other either. I don’t see why you can’t drop and join the play, but then sprint into the penalty box once the attack is progressing.
So yes, I have no issue with the position Martial was in when he released Sabitzer. But if Sabitzer was unable to shoot and had to get the ball and turn back, would he have found that Martial had made up/was making up 30/40 yards to then give Sabitzer an option to play him in on goal? Or would he have found that Martial was pretty much in the same position as when he played the pass?
Kane is a great player, and a very complete player, but he was miles better a few years ago when he could run more. I would not go near signing him now and thought that even two summers ago, when he was linked with City, it was pushing it to spend big money on him.
No doubt he’s a great player, but there must be better options.
No doubt he’s a great player, but there must be better options.
If he never made it into the box he wouldn't score a bucket load of goals. That makes no sense.
Ultimately hes flourished under various managers of different ilks and formations, and he's been doing it season after season in the hardest league of them all. Hes the safest guaruntee of dependable goals as any team can get.
I'm not saying he doesn't make it in the box ever, I was saying with the composure in advanced areas, it tends to be getting the ball deep and proceeded by him not being able to hit the box in time.
Apart from every big game he's ever played in. I think he has massive question marks on some aspects of his play for someone we'd have to make our top earner and shell out 100m on
"apart from every big game he ever played in".
Such hyperbole, he's got a fantastic record against Arsenal and Chelsea if I'm not mistaken. He scored against Germany in R16s of Euros, and was the golden boot winner in the campaign.
He definitely has games that he failed to put away chances in but jesus almighty if we actually criticised Osimhen the way you critique Kane you would find a mountain more holes.
Hes scored 20 plus goals most seasons. Just because he's not focused solely on being a fox in the box doesn't mean he's not a terrific striker.
He'd be perfect for us. The exact type of striker Ten Hag would want. And he comes with the added "get away with murder" clause the England captain signs before taking it.
Imagine Levy will want £100m, probably settle for £80m ….get it done.
All Kane does is score goals and provide decent holdup play FFS.