Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

Is there anything to suggest Kane WON'T have the same trajectory as Lewa and Benzema in terms of still being 20-30 goal a season striker aged 35?

80 million actually sounds like a decent investment if that were to be the case
 
I don't have any issues with his age, particularly with Benzema and Lewandowski still regarded as one the best strikers in the game - I think generally that retirement date is prolonged in today's game. So, he is not old at 29 (30 in the summer) and IMO it is a myth.

Also, we should be looking to add someone who can have an impact straight away, matching our current spine ages: Bruno, Casemiro, Varane, Eriksen, Shaw, etc. rather than signing a younger one to be a starting striker, who will require further development to reach that level. Osimhen would be a very good choice as he is young enough to be considered a long-term singing and he is also, IMO, ready to have an impact straight away.

If we sign Kane, we would have to add younger strikers in time, but we should not have concerns about our future, there are still plenty of young talents in this squad: Amad, Mejbri, Garnacho, Pellistri, Sancho, Antony etc.
 
MiceOnMeth said:
Is there anything to suggest Kane WON'T have the same trajectory as Lewa and Benzema in terms of still being 20-30 goal a season striker aged 35?

80 million actually sounds like a decent investment if that were to be the case
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100s of other players?
 
BenitoSTARR said:
Add in Kane and you have a title winning spine for 2 more years at least. At which point you have at least another 4 windows to bring in GK, CB, CDM, CM, CM/CAM.

Genuinely think that’s absolutely fine.
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I don't think it is, this is fundamentally why Liverpool have dropped from UCL finalists to cataclysmic levels both domestically and in Europe.

Thus far this where Murtough is supposed to come through. For me we aren't linked with enough young talent. The plan for ETH shouldn't be to have a team with a strong average of 30 years old + and then have to rebuild the team has underperformed for years. The team should have a younger core now so that the team can challenge over a longer period.

Kane is from a footballing standpoint a good signing but from a business perspective a poor one. Has no re-sale value, wont be cheap and it's a waiting game as far as assessing his decline which to some degree is inevitable at this stage of his career.

The only silver lining is if the club go for younger alternatives in other positions to offset the lack of balance in the higher age range for pivotal positions. What Madrid are doing right now is the right approach, get the younger talent in while integrating them with the senior players.
 
sullydnl said:
The season before RVP arrived we finished level on points with first place, finishing 2nd as City had a +8 goal difference. The next closest team was 19 points behind us.

As it stands this season we're in third place, 11 and 13 points behind the two teams ahead of us with varying amounts of games played. They already have a +28 and +36 goal difference on us. And there are three chasing teams within 8 points of us.

In other words this is not a similar position to the one we were in when we signed RVP. We're not nearly as good relative to the best team(s) in the league and we face much more competition from surrounding teams.

Obviously a striker of Kane's caliber would improve us. But it in no way guarantees major trophies as we aren't in a position where we just need to put a finishing touch on a potentially league winining team, nor are we immune to the much increased intensity of competition in the league.

I'm okay with signing Kane. But if our reasoning for doing so depends on us winning the league within the next one or two years specifically, it's bad reasoning. Because it wouldn't be particularly surprising if that doesn't happen. We need to believe he can fire us to title challenges across a longer period than that
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We didn't start the season well to be fair, but we've been close to them since then.
 
Adisa said:
At the start of next season, Varane 30, Fernandez 29, Casemiro 31, Eriksen 31, Dave, 33. We need to think about these things.
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That’s exactly why can’t get too carried away trying to sign Kane, will be looking at a very small window for success before you are rebuilding again.

I think Levy will effectively price him out of a move and hope Kane renews after summer window. I can’t see anyone being willing to spend more than 60m on him.
 
Roboc7 said:
That’s exactly why can’t get too carried away trying to sign Kane, will be looking at a very small window for success before you are rebuilding again.

I think Levy will effectively price him out of a move and hope Kane renews after summer window. I can’t see anyone being willing to spend more than 60m on him.
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Not unless we have oil money which looks Likely. Eriksen and DDG won’t even be first choice next year so it’s not as bad as it looks
 
Roboc7 said:
That’s exactly why can’t get too carried away trying to sign Kane, will be looking at a very small window for success before you are rebuilding again.

I think Levy will effectively price him out of a move and hope Kane renews after summer window. I can’t see anyone being willing to spend more than 60m on him.
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We should get the best available, and not worry about age. Lukaku was only 24 when he joined us in 2017, and we have been looking for a good striker since 2019.
 
World class striker, you are looking at 80-100mil to land him. Even with only 1 year left on his contract.

It will be interesting. If United win the league with Kane leading the line in the next three years it will be hailed as an inspired piece of transfer business.

If United fail to win anything it will be they overpaid for an 'ageing' Kane.
 
Vapor trail said:
I don't think it is, this is fundamentally why Liverpool have dropped from UCL finalists to cataclysmic levels both domestically and in Europe.

Thus far this where Murtough is supposed to come through. For me we aren't linked with enough young talent. The plan for ETH shouldn't be to have a team with a strong average of 30 years old + and then have to rebuild the team has underperformed for years. The team should have a younger core now so that the team can challenge over a longer period.

Kane is from a footballing standpoint a good signing but from a business perspective a poor one. Has no re-sale value, wont be cheap and it's a waiting game as far as assessing his decline which to some degree is inevitable at this stage of his career.

The only silver lining is if the club go for younger alternatives in other positions to offset the lack of balance in the higher age range for pivotal positions. What Madrid are doing right now is the right approach, get the younger talent in while integrating them with the senior players.
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But they’ve dropped because they’re trying to replace a forward line with the next best up and comers and have let their proven winners go in Mane. Their issue is midfield mainly.

I think because he’s a good footballing signing that’s exactly why we should sign him. The business side can be taken care of from a position of strength then rather than risking the next striker being a dud we buy the closest thing to guaranteeing performance money can buy in Kane.

I genuinely think the spine is fine for 2 years with steady replacement from that stronger position. Sir Alex did it all the time buy the best supplement with academy players and buy youngsters when you’re strong and don’t have to rely solely on them.

Kane for me is an absolute no brainer.

I agree Madrid are doing a good job and I think a Kane signing takes all pressure off any future younger signing. It gives them a world class player to train with and learn from and time at United away from the spotlight to develop. You throw Osimhen into the mix and there are no guarantees he copes but you bring him and and you’re stuck.
 
I'd move for Osimhen if Spurs are asking for over £100m. That's fecking ridiculous for a player with one year left on his deal.
 
Mcking said:
We should get the best available, and not worry about age. Lukaku was only 24 when he joined us in 2017, and we have been looking for a good striker since 2019.
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Have to worry about age when spine of your team is already older than would like. It’s not sustainable to spend huge sums of money on quick fixes. Our recruitment has to be better than just picking very obvious and expensive solutions. I don’t see point in putting together a team that might compete for a year or two if you’re lucky.
 
Would love him at United and he’ll fit in like a glove. Signing him will also allow Rashford to play permanently on his preferred left

I am not sure how good Osimhen is but Napoli are notoriously tough negotiators. Remember the Koulibaly links when we got quoted obscene amounts? Kane only has a year of contract left after this season
 
Roboc7 said:
Have to worry about age when spine of your team is already older than would like. It’s not sustainable to spend huge sums of money on quick fixes. Our recruitment has to be better than just picking very obvious and expensive solutions. I don’t see point in putting together a team that might compete for a year or two if you’re lucky.
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If Woodward was about we'd probably be going all in for him.
Will back the manager whatever he wants to do, as after all we're rocking Weigy up front at the moment, who isn't a gamechanger to any level at premier league standard.
But ideally we'll go for a longer term mobile choice like Osimhen.
 
sullydnl said:
The season before RVP arrived we finished level on points with first place, finishing 2nd as City had a +8 goal difference. The next closest team was 19 points behind us.

As it stands this season we're in third place, 11 and 13 points behind the two teams ahead of us with varying amounts of games played. They already have a +28 and +36 goal difference on us. And there are three chasing teams within 8 points of us.

In other words this is not a similar position to the one we were in when we signed RVP. We're not nearly as good relative to the best team(s) in the league and we face much more competition from surrounding teams.

Obviously a striker of Kane's caliber would improve us. But it in no way guarantees major trophies as we aren't in a position where we just need to put a finishing touch on a potentially league winining team, nor are we immune to the much increased intensity of competition in the league.

I'm okay with signing Kane. But if our reasoning for doing so depends on us winning the league within the next one or two years specifically, it's bad reasoning. Because it wouldn't be particularly surprising if that doesn't happen. We need to believe he can fire us to title challenges across a longer period than that
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I think the reasoning would rather be to make sure we get top four. Of course, there are never any guarantees for that either the way PL has become (look at Liverpool this year), but with Kane in the side I do think we would be quite safe for the next three to five years.
 
This saga has all the historical signs of a homegrown star going abroad not to offend his home supporters and therefore Real or Bayern will be imho!
 
We've got one reliable goalscorer in our team and even he has come off a ropey 18 months.

Harry Kane would transform us into a proper team. It's a no brainer if we can get it done.

Still need a top right back and another CM though.
 
Bepi said:
This saga has all the historical signs of a homegrown star going abroad not to offend his home supporters and therefore Real or Bayern will be imho!
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Imagine next to zero chance Kane going abroad .…most likely be Utd if he moves
 
Chief123 said:
I would have no issue with us signing Kane other than the age. He would be 30 in his first game for us. A good point discussed online was the fact there aren’t many English strikers or strikers that have played in the premier league that play well into their 30’s and maintain the standards.

A lot will point towards Lewandowski, Ronaldo etc but they haven’t played in the most competitive and difficult league in the world their whole career. I do wonder whether Kane would be able to follow a similar path of continuing to be top draw for the next 5 years or so having been exerted to the PL his whole career.

Personally, I would prefer a more dynamic and pacey striker. There will be big away games where having pace through the middle is crucial. Having Bruno and Kane as the central attack on the counter will be easier to handle for opponents. Yes we could have Rashford linking from the left similar to how Son and Kane link, but I have reservations about how Kane and Bruno can play together without both trying to occupy the same areas on the pitch.
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Yeah you do feel that more of a pacy striker like Osimhen could be the difference in away games
 
amolbhatia50k said:
If this goes through you just have to hope for him to age like Benzema and Lewandowski have because not every top striker does. I do worry about the signing because I still we have a season or two to go of great work in the market and on the training field to win major honours so in a sense the transition /growing period will take more time whereas Kane is a signing that may not have much use after a short period.

All in all it could be a great addition but I’d prefer someone in or approaching their prime whose lack of legs wont become an issue while they collect record wages
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Yeah I am praying he ages like those two if we sign him but could honestly go either way
 
Roboc7 said:
Have to worry about age when spine of your team is already older than would like. It’s not sustainable to spend huge sums of money on quick fixes. Our recruitment has to be better than just picking very obvious and expensive solutions. I don’t see point in putting together a team that might compete for a year or two if you’re lucky.
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They can compete for way more than that. They are not that old to begin with, and they are not all going to start declining at the same time. We just have to continue recruiting, which will always be inevitable regardless of the ages of players you are signing.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
But they’ve dropped because they’re trying to replace a forward line with the next best up and comers and have let their proven winners go in Mane. Their issue is midfield mainly.

I think because he’s a good footballing signing that’s exactly why we should sign him. The business side can be taken care of from a position of strength then rather than risking the next striker being a dud we buy the closest thing to guaranteeing performance money can buy in Kane.

I genuinely think the spine is fine for 2 years with steady replacement from that stronger position. Sir Alex did it all the time buy the best supplement with academy players and buy youngsters when you’re strong and don’t have to rely solely on them.

Kane for me is an absolute no brainer.

I agree Madrid are doing a good job and I think a Kane signing takes all pressure off any future younger signing. It gives them a world class player to train with and learn from and time at United away from the spotlight to develop. You throw Osimhen into the mix and there are no guarantees he copes but you bring him and and you’re stuck.
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You are right there is no guarantees with Osimhen being a success here,however honestly think he is a rough diamond and could shine under Erik's coaching,also agree with people who have concerns about Kane declining and no resale
 
Much as the idea of seeing him in a Utd shirt really appeals I still favour Osimhen,however there are pros and cons for signing either of them
 
jamesjimmybyrondean said:




Don't think the source is reliable but 100m for a 30 year old Kane with one year left makes no sense for us
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This source reported Alejandro had agreed a 5yr deal two weeks ago and I am still waiting to see confirmation :wenger:
It is the same quality as the Sun, Mirror tabloids
 
Depends on Kane. If he makes it perfectly clear he wants out then they may reluctantly agree to let him leave and start the rebuild.

Also depends on Spurs and where they finish. If they finish in top 4 and reappointed Poch I think he might end up staying there.
 
Shove Kane in this team in place of Weghorst and we go up to another level.

Similar players in a lot of ways, both drop deep to start build up play, hold up the ball etc.......... Just Wout is quite average and Kane is top drawer.

And I genuinely don't mean that as an insult to Wout, it's just fact.
 
He'd be a perfect signing and I also reckon it'd be a great move for him. He doesn't really have any other team to go to in Premier League and although Bayern links are flattering, I'm sure he'd rather win Premier League or at least have a shot at it before the end of his career. There'll be always time and opportunity for him to go abroad in 3-4 years whereas his game is probably not going to last more than that in England alone, at least in his current role (I do expect him to continue being a good impact player even at 35-36, just not a focal point of the team). Tottenham are also going nowhere with their current team and should probably recognize that sooner rather than later.

The issue is Levy. He perceives United to be their arch rivals, and thinks of Spurs as a title contender in fierce rivalry with us. I don't see him accepting anything short of PL transfer record.
 
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