Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

I still believe United are negotiating behind the scenes for Kane or at least his brother agent is trying to smoke out what United are prepared to pay for Kane. This idea that Levy is some master negotiator is being way too overhyped. He’s done feck all to help spurs win trophies in their best era for decades and is now bitter at losing his prize jewel. There’s always a price and he’d be incredibly foolish to let Kane go for nothing. Levy will eventually buckle, he’s sold great players in the past, it’s Spurs ffs.
I don't think that's the idea, because you're right. For whatever he does to be called master, it has to actually reflect on the results as there are no trophies for getting the best deal on paper. I think the idea is that he is a stubborn penny pinching nuisance to make a deal with which from all reliable accounts, seem to be true. Even the legendary Hoeneß was trying to butter him up recently!
 
We don't have the money for Kane. By all that's reported we can't even afford Amrabat without selling players and we're extremely far down the Hojlund road.

Yeah clearly top target at start of window but we found out it wasn't possible so ended interest
 
Flawed premise? More like glaring reality for “strongman” Levy.
Yes it's a flawed premise. Should Spurs accept 5mil because it's better than nothing? No.

Thus it's a flawed premise.
 
Flawed premise? More like glaring reality for “strongman” Levy.
If I'm right Levy was at the wheel when Spurs sold Bale. They got a pot-load of money and then behaved like a kid in a candy store and bought a whole load of players who never amounted to anything much.
 
Hoping that there is no deal set with bayern and Kane decides to stay and see it his contract. We then swoop in and replace martial with Kane next year. Ah.. Well, if wishes were horses.

Despite kane seemingly being a perfect player for us, spending 100 million on him is a bit ridiculous because the upside is only 2 or 3 years tops.
 
You may well be right about Levy, but it would be a colossal mistake for Spurs to see Kane leave 100m on the table and see their club's greatest player, still at his prime (we''ll see how he performs in the new season but no one denies he was outstanding last season) walk out on a free.

Liverpool cashed in Coutinho and the sale paid massive dividends for the club. Levy can do a lot with 100m and propel his club to the next level of greatness or he can watch his club slide off the cliff. He may well risk the latter out of petulance, but if he does his rivals will no longer be Brighton and Villa...more like Brentford and Fulham.

If Daniel is betting that he can talk Harry into a new contract who are we to say that that's ridiculous? But if he goes into the last week of August with this bet still on the table his bet will go down in professional football lore as one of the greatest blunders of all time.

It's obviously been a few years, but Tottenham did not reinvest the Bale money well. Maybe that changes with the new manager providing his input.

They really are not in a good position. The only sure thing they have is Kane. He keeps them relevant and competitive. I know the rumours state he has said he will not extend, but you have to think Spurs are still working behind the scenes to get him to change his mind and finish his career at Spurs - with an EPL scoring record to his name and high paid, cushy post-career role at the club guaranteed.
 
Hoping that there is no deal set with bayern and Kane decides to stay and see it his contract. We then swoop in and replace martial with Kane next year. Ah.. Well, if wishes were horses.

Despite kane seemingly being a perfect player for us, spending 100 million on him is a bit ridiculous because the upside is only 2 or 3 years tops.

£100M for guaranteed goals, and a player directly responsible for 22 points last season is well worth it.

He converts roughly a bit more than the npxg (quality of chances provided). Given we regularly produce better chances than spurs does, there is no reason to think he would score less goals. His goals converted to npxg is +0.14 - Martial had a npxg of 0.6, Wout 0.5. Kane would normally score 0.6 - 0.7 - 22 - 27 goals. That is 16 - 21 non penalty goals more than we had this season - purely based on the chances created for our current strikers, and not taking into account Kane's superior movement. Now, that is before we even look at his ability to create goalscoring opportunities for others.

15-21 goals equals on average anywhere from 10 to 24 points in the PL (depending on defence). We finished 14 points behind City with clearly inferior number 9s.

Rarely has there been a more obvious player for a side to buy. He instantly makes us contenders.
 
Love the abroad english hype, its like old school football history :drool:
 
Feel for Ange here, it's not like this is a journo who turns up every week in the UK. I wonder what Fergie would have done here.


The journalist would never have been able to go to a United conference again and there would be a few threats to his bosses too
 
Looks like it will happen. It will be just like Bale and Berbatov. Right at the very end of the transfer window. I can see Spurs ending up with Choupo-Moting at his replacement. :smirk:
 
If records are so important to Harry, he should see out his contract and stay in the Premier League. Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle, City or United would all take him.

If Bundesliga and the DFB-Pokal trophies are so important to Harry, he should join Bayern.

If endless money is so important to Harry, he should join Al Hilal in Saudi.
 
It's really happening to everyone not named Dan Levy apparently
I think he can be swayed towards the Bayern sale provided they offer enough money.

As stated before he will want to keep him out of the hands of PL teams and Bayern provides that outlet.

I also think he is coming around to the idea given Kane has expressed that he won't renew. There's been a noticeable shift within the club ever since that happened. If Bayern are serious they simply need to put their money where there mouth is. I just worry they think this wooing phase will last through the year and they'll think they can get him for free. I'm not confident free agent Kane will be quiet so swayed to leaving England when all options are equally on the table.
 
It's obviously been a few years, but Tottenham did not reinvest the Bale money well. Maybe that changes with the new manager providing his input.

They really are not in a good position. The only sure thing they have is Kane. He keeps them relevant and competitive. I know the rumours state he has said he will not extend, but you have to think Spurs are still working behind the scenes to get him to change his mind and finish his career at Spurs - with an EPL scoring record to his name and high paid, cushy post-career role at the club guaranteed.

It would definitely be ideal Spurs if Harry were to sign a new contract. But if that is not in the cards, the options are cashing in on him now or letting him walk on a free next summer. The latter option would be devastating to the club’s future.
 
£100M for guaranteed goals, and a player directly responsible for 22 points last season is well worth it.

He converts roughly a bit more than the npxg (quality of chances provided). Given we regularly produce better chances than spurs does, there is no reason to think he would score less goals. His goals converted to npxg is +0.14 - Martial had a npxg of 0.6, Wout 0.5. Kane would normally score 0.6 - 0.7 - 22 - 27 goals. That is 16 - 21 non penalty goals more than we had this season - purely based on the chances created for our current strikers, and not taking into account Kane's superior movement. Now, that is before we even look at his ability to create goalscoring opportunities for others.

15-21 goals equals on average anywhere from 10 to 24 points in the PL (depending on defence). We finished 14 points behind City with clearly inferior number 9s.

Rarely has there been a more obvious player for a side to buy. He instantly makes us contenders.
Is that also taking into account Kane's playmaking abilities?
 
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Such a classy club BM is, utter cnuts.
It almost makes me want to do a U-Turn and just sell him to an interested PL team out of spite.

Almost, but not quite.
 
Perfect move for him I feel. Replacing Lewandowski and playing for a great team that will give him trophies.
 
It almost makes me want to do a U-Turn and just sell him to an interested PL team out of spite.

Almost, but not quite.

Couldn’t give a feck about Harry now tbh, after the Neville interview he was just an employee for me. Didn’t have the balls to just hand in a transfer request, I just want it done now. Get Vlahovic in and 2-3 others. feck Kane.
 
Couldn’t give a feck about Harry now tbh, after the Neville interview he was just an employee for me. Didn’t have the balls to just hand in a transfer request, I just want it done now. Get Vlahovic in and 2-3 others. feck Kane.
Ah. I still love him personally even though that Nev interview was a kick in the teeth.

Agree about Vlahovic though, he's absolutely the one I want should Kane be sold. Odd that we haven't even been lightly rumoured (to my knowledge) though.
 
Ah. I still love him personally even though that Nev interview was a kick in the teeth.

Agree about Vlahovic though, he's absolutely the one I want should Kane be sold. Odd that we haven't even been lightly rumoured (to my knowledge) though.

I have seen a few ropey links, he would fit the system I think anyway. Just want the Kane saga done, the West Ham friendly got me excited for the first time since Poch. Onwards and upwards my friend.
 
If I'm right Levy was at the wheel when Spurs sold Bale. They got a pot-load of money and then behaved like a kid in a candy store and bought a whole load of players who never amounted to anything much.

Yeah wasn’t it something like Soldado,Chiriches,Paulinho just to name a few
 
I have seen a few ropey links, he would fit the system I think anyway. Just want the Kane saga done, the West Ham friendly got me excited for the first time since Poch. Onwards and upwards my friend.

I actually don’t think he would fit the system at all. From what we have seen from him in his career, he likes very mobile 9s and 8s prepared to press aggressively. I don’t think Vlahovic would be that type of player.

I saw links to Pedro in Brazil and, honestly, Richarlison would be perfect for what he seems to want to do. He is a bit of a forgotten man after a terrible season but he is extremely highly rated in Brazil and I think he could thrive as a pressing, combative 9. Pedro would be a nice cheaper option.

The money could then be spent on defence and on another 8 where there are potentially more pressing concerns.
 
Is that also taking into account Kane's playmaking abilities?

Nope, purely based on non-penalty goals. If you include playmaking ability (0.17-0.2 pr 90) you could easily add 6-8 goals, maybe more given someone like Rashford outperforms his npxg as well, which would put us well on our way to reaching that 84 - 94 goal margin you need to win the premier league.

Essentially we would be paying 100M for anywhere between 21 - 30 extra ( from where we are now) goals resulting in 79 - 88 team goals in total. Add Kane and all you need is Sancho or Antony replicating their form from Dortmund or Ajax respectively and you have a Premier League title challenge ready to go.

There's a very good team there, but some players are vastly underperforming and we are missing that crucial player up top. Kane would bring us a long way towards making it all mesh.
 
From the fighting cock. Hard to disagree....what the feck are you doing Harry

Kane going to Munich is such an atrocious decision.

In footballing terms, it’s stupid. In personal terms, it’s stupid. Financially, it’s stupid.

It’s almost like Charlie hasn’t got a fecking clue what he’s doing and Harry is stupid enough to listen to him.

If he ran down his contract and left for nothing, he could get a mammoth signing fee with any club on the planet.

If he agreed a new contract with Tottenham, doubles his salary on the terms that it includes a respectable release clause, he makes a feck ton of money and guarantees an exit next season if he wants it.

But instead he’s rushing a move to a comparative pub league just so he can win the Bundesliga. Losing out on money, respect and waving goodbye to a legacy.
 
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

He comes to the realization that he's not guaranteed winning a trophy unless he goes to City, Chelsea, or United...as he's not going to Arsenal.

It's as if he's within touching distance of all time PL goal scorer but he would rather win a cheap Bundesliga title for his first silverware and the club's 11th or 12th in a row.

And Levy cannot sell him domestically, he's to fecking stubborn and bitter. So he'll gladly sell abroad for less money and try to reinvest but then hold off on trying to overspend when he knows replacing Kane will be near impossible if he doesn't spent on one high quality player or 2 players essentially eating into the Kane transfer money.
 
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

He comes to the realization that he's not guaranteed winning a trophy unless he goes to City, Chelsea, or United...as he's not going to Arsenal.

It's as if he's within touching distance of all time PL goal scorer but he would rather win a cheap Bundesliga title for his first silverware and the club's 11th or 12th in a row.

And Levy cannot sell him domestically, he's to fecking stubborn and bitter. So he'll gladly sell abroad for less money and try to reinvest but then hold off on trying to overspend when he knows replacing Kane will be near impossible if he doesn't spent on one high quality player or 2 players essentially eating into the Kane transfer money.

That's very generous to think he would be guaranteed a trophy by joining United next season (and even Chelsea is a bit of gamble).

Bayern are probably as close to a sure shot to win a league title and getting good odds for the C1. I'd put City and Real just below on account of stiffer domestic competition (but maybe better CL prospects).

Not targeted at you specifically, just an aside, but it's been a running meme to lampoon Kane for his lack of trophies and his small time mentality... But he shouldn't choose Bayern, one of the winningest teams around because reasons ?

Joining United, be the potential hero of restoring old glory could make for a nice prospective story to sell him on. No doubt a player his caliber could instantly make MU a lot more competitive. I am not sure it is that potent an argument though.