L1nk
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So if you dont care about Kane, and only Spurs, why would you not want the extra 20/30m if it was on the table?
So clearly, its not just about Spurs is it? For example, if United sold any player, I would sell to the highest bidder.
You talk about rivals, but are United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, City actually Spurs rivals?
I wouldn't have a preference either way. I'd much prefer he went to another league. City are likely to win the next 3 or 4 league titles with or without Kane anyway.If Haaland decided to run away to join the circus would you prefer to sell him to City than us, on the grounds they aren't realistically your rival?
I suppose anything is possible, that would signal the death of Kane's club career for sure. The final nail for sureWhat you are missing here is that every spurs fan is on a massive dosage of hopium that Kane, for some reasons during the season will reconsider and sign new contract.
Because 20 million extra is not worth as much to Spurs as not having a rival club in our league have Kane in their team? Which then makes the slim hopes of us getting champions league even more difficult - the champions league that if we did manage to qualify for would generate considerably more than 20 million for the club? Do I honestly have to keep spelling this out to you guys?
Qatari dick swinging signing in August I reckon.
The hard part is always to find a replacement for Harry Kane.Not really, after one of your worst seasons in recent history, selling your best player and record goalscorer to a team in the league would be extremely damaging long term. They appear to be investing anyway without selling him and there's no guarantee that money will come close to replacing his impact. They will likely improve next year if they get Maddison, a CB and a GK - add keeping Kane, they have a very strong chance of a top 4 challenge. Take Kane away from that, they likely have no chance.
Demanding more money isn't in the best interest of Spurs cause a good balance has to be found, the money has 1 year left on his contract and age isn't on his side. There is only so much posturing a club can do for its own good.The point I was discussing was whether I would rather Kane move to another league or a domestic rival - I have said multiple times in this thread that he could move to Utd this summer but only if Utd pay up - Levy will (rightly) demand more money to sell him to a domestic rival but he would definitely sell at the right price.
You can't replace him really.The hard part is always to find a replacement for Harry Kane.
Do you seriously think Kane would want to live in Germany.
Kane has another 5 solid seasons in him I reckon. That's not stop gap.Good, do not want another stop gap striker for whom we would have payed close to 80million only to go back to search for a new one 2 years down the line. Bayern can afford to do this as they plan well. We do not.
Exactly, and even if you did find a suitable replacement, are they going to join Spurs over all the other teams that are looking for no 9 right now?The hard part is always to find a replacement for Harry Kane.
That's what I was thinking. It wouldn't effect your chances of CL qualification to strengthen a team who it's hard to believe could fail to achieve such in that kinda time frame. So the only reason to want him to go to Bayern over City would be the emotion of having to see him on MOTD in a different shirt.I wouldn't have a preference either way. I'd much prefer he went to another league. City are likely to win the next 3 or 4 league titles with or without Kane anyway.
I think that the obvious thing to do is to snap up someone decent on the cheap (the Porto lad) or free (Thuram) and then sit back and play the waiting game. If Bayern/Real/PSG have an offer accepted, then just match their offer or go slightly (like £1m) over it. If Levy rejects our offer, then it's up to 'Arry to force things if he wants to stay in the PL. He will have more leverage if an offer has already been accepted for a similar fee and kicking up a stink will be justified - I feel like he is reluctant to do this at present due to the fiasco last time he tried.
If no bid from abroad is accepted, then throw down an 80m take it or leave it offer on deadline day. If it ain't accepted, snap him up on a free in the summer- or for 40m in January.
However, I would sell Kane for 100m and start the rebuild asap. Son is not getting any younger either so in the end need replacement for both Son and Kane. Hazard went to Madrid for 100m so if I am Levy I won't accept anything less than that.You can't replace him really.
Meaning in terms of the time it'd take for the club to be sold or Kane being able to officially talk with any club ?They won't be able to have impact until January
I agree which is why if he does leave this summer it would be Utd which would be his preference no doubt. It's all down to how much cash Utd are willing to spend on him.
I think what COULD happen is this - Kane stays this year and leaves for free next season. City sell Haaland to Madrid and sign Kane. This would not surprise me.
And run the risk of Utd not being interested anymore in him ? Or even Utd missing out on the CL. Harry holds the cards now tbhStay the season and move next summer to Utd.
Probably in Germany where the league is Bayern's. Not at a club like United where the scrutiny will be more, playing without a break in December. Playing for a club like United who are yet to have a proper starting 11 and a pattern of play nailed on, he will certainly not play 5 years.Kane has another 5 solid seasons in him I reckon. That's not stop gap.
Because 20 million extra is not worth as much to Spurs as not having a rival club in our league have Kane in their team? Which then makes the slim hopes of us getting champions league even more difficult - the champions league that if we did manage to qualify for would generate considerably more than 20 million for the club? Do I honestly have to keep spelling this out to you guys?
Why would Kane want to take all the risk so that Man Utd can save money? Their fans will go riot if Harry Kane earn 500k a week due to the free transfer.And run the risk of Utd not being interested anymore in him ? Or even Utd missing out on the CL. Harry holds the cards now tbh
Even with 5 CL spots up for grabs it would require 2 of those teams having worse seasons than Spurs, and Spurs (under a new manager with a lot of issues to sort out) making a huge improvement on last year - and on the assumption that the likes of Brighton don't continue to improve. I'm sticking with highly unlikely.There will be five CL places and football is a lot more unpredictable than you are implying. Every year there is at least one if not two top six (now top seven with Newcastle) clubs that end up in some kind of crisis and severely underperforming expectations due to injuries, players downing tools, managerial drama, etc. Liverpool went from the verge of the quadruple to out of the CL. Chelsea was a consensus top four side by preseason predictions and they finished 12th. The year before United went from adding Varane and Sancho to a 2nd place team to their worst post-Fergie season. Its highly likely that at least one of United, Newcastle, Liverpool, or Arsenal has a really disappointing year next year (I would bet on Newcastle personally but who knows).
He has a terrific injury record really - he's more fit than Victor Osimhen and is 5+ years older. His style is not one that relies on explosive play - he definitely has many more seasons left, too many to be counted as a "stop gap".Probably in Germany where the league is Bayern's. Not at a club like United where the scrutiny will be more, playing without a break in December. Playing for a club like United who are yet to have a proper starting 11 and a pattern of play nailed on, he will certainly not play 5 years.
Also 5 years would mean, by year 3 or 4 he would need to take regular breaks and not be starting every game which would mean we would be in for a replacement striker at that time.
I understand that there's currently a dearth of quality strikers and we are going to depend on an unknown name, but feel if we get that right, we have at least 6-7 years sorted minimum.
Yes but without the extra £20m, Spurs could also end up not getting the signings required to get CL or EL. Other clubs missing out on Kane does not mean they wont sign a ST.
City didn't get Kane and it didnt impact them, they still won the league and Spurs lost out on 120m.
Why are you surprised about Kane agreeing w/ Bayern?Jesus our transfer window gets worse,Utd FFS get your arse in gear and better their offer NOW
I get what you are saying and I guess I agree to a certain extent in that if he HAS to be sold to a domestic team then I'd probably be happier him go to City than any other team because we are not in competition with City.That's what I was thinking. It wouldn't effect your chances of CL qualification to strengthen a team who it's hard to believe could fail to achieve such in that kinda time frame. So the only reason to want him to go to Bayern over City would be the emotion of having to see him on MOTD in a different shirt.
Why are you surprised about Kane agreeing w/ Bayern?
The problem will, and always has been Levy
Because it's the only way he could control the situation right nowWhy would Kane want to take all the risk so that Man Utd can save money? Their fans will go riot if Harry Kane earn 500k a week due to the free transfer.
Well this where you and I strongly differ. What on earth makes you think that Spurs have a 'very strong chance of a top 4 challenge'? A manager that did well in Scotland, a midfielder that just helped his side get relegated? A disillusioned striker that only managed to secure an 8th place finish last season? Of course, strange things can happen in football, but there is absolutely nothing that suggests that Spurs, with or without Kane, will have a very strong chance of top 4 next season.Not really, after one of your worst seasons in recent history, selling your best player and record goalscorer to a team in the league would be extremely damaging long term. They appear to be investing anyway without selling him and there's no guarantee that money will come close to replacing his impact. They will likely improve next year if they get Maddison, a CB and a GK - add keeping Kane, they have a very strong chance of a top 4 challenge. Take Kane away from that, they likely have no chance.
The deal will be closed very soon. In the mean time Man Utd is showing interest in Harry Kane and prepare to offer Mcguire + McTominay + 40M to spurs. The same offer has been considered for Declan Rice and Caicedo as well.