Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

The main reason why I want him to be our no.1 CF target is that the alternatives don't convince me (Ramos, Muani) or are too expensive (Osimhen). Any CF linked to us will cost more than 80m. Kane will guarantee us 25-30 goals (especially since he is already a proven EPL goalscorer unlike every other target) and we can look for a younger CF in 2024 or 2025 (Sesko, Ferguson, Hojlund) to replace him eventually.
 
Kane would actually be a pretty smart investment. We shouldn’t wait 3-4 seasons to start winning major trophies again.
You can add Kane to this team and it wouldn’t compete for the title, so unless you are going to invest the rest of what is necessary then Kane will be over the hill by the time we are ready. We already have Casemiro, Varane and Eriksen who are entering their latter years. This squad needs players the right side of 26, not in their 30s.

Kane is a great player, but he would cost the Earth, and we don’t have the Earth and another £100m+ to spare to invest in other areas.
 
I really hope we move on quickly from this one. We shouldn’t be spending what would ultimately be such a large part of out budget on such a player, despite what he could offer. We need to think longer term with smarter investments in players with their best years ahead.
I understand the argument, but I just think we have to go for it now. We finally have a world class midfielder, but he might be on the wane in another couple of years, and the same with Varane (you could argue he already is given his injury issues). You buy a striker with an eye on the future and just as he reaches peak you're needing to replace Casemiro. Let's strike while the iron is hot and worry about replacing him in 3 years time.
 
You can add Kane to this team and it wouldn’t compete for the title, so unless you are going to invest the rest of what is necessary then Kane will be over the hill by the time we are ready. We already have Casemiro, Varane and Eriksen who are entering their latter years. This squad needs players the right side of 26, not in their 30s.

Kane is a great player, but he would cost the Earth, and we don’t have the Earth and another £100m+ to spare to invest in other areas.
I imagine that if there was a 26 year old out there who would guarantee you even 75% of the goals/creativity that Kane would, for less money, then we would be all over him like a rash. Who is he though?
 
I imagine that if there was a 26 year old out there who would guarantee you even 75% of the goals/creativity that Kane would, for less money, then we would be all over him like a rash. Who is he though?
That’s the job of scouts and analysts to identify that player. You look for what a player can become rather than what they have already done.
 
That’s the job of scouts and analysts to identify that player. You look for what a player can become rather than what they have already done.
Not if you want to have a shot at the title and the Champions League next season you don't.

Would Fergie have signed Kane at this age? Absolutely he would. First you have to start winning the big trophies, and then you find it easier to attract the young stars in the making. The future is never certain, and the further ahead you look the less certain it gets. Best laid plans and all that. Sign Kane and bring some younger players in in some less crucial positions.
 
That’s the job of scouts and analysts to identify that player. You look for what a player can become rather than what they have already done.
If he's 26 and has those attributes then everyone would know who it was, that player doesn't exist
 
I can’t see Levy letting him go. Imagine you’re Levy, trying to hire a new manager and you tell them their one top class player is leaving, along with no European football, the list of candidates for head coach reduces even further. He’s the carrot to getting a top coach as you’re giving the new guy something to work with.

I’d love him to come - 25-30 goals a year guaranteed. He’d be brilliant for us, and even if we couldn’t bridge the gap to city in the league, he’d massively boost our chances in cup competitions and the CL particularly.
 
If he's 26 and has those attributes then everyone would know who it was, that player doesn't exist
What player doesn’t exist? If you believe that only players who scored 30 goals in the PL last season are capable of scoring 30 goals next season, then we might as well not bother scouting at all.
 
I can’t see Levy letting him go. Imagine you’re Levy, trying to hire a new manager and you tell them their one top class player is leaving, along with no European football, the list of candidates for head coach reduces even further. He’s the carrot to getting a top coach as you’re giving the new guy something to work with.
All that's true, but actually maybe what Spurs need is a complete reset? The longer they go on relying on Kane's goals to paper over the cracks the further away they get from solving all the other problems they have. An extra £100 million budget for a new manager might help to sweeten the deal?
 
There's no way he's ever going for 50-60m surely?
He'll be lucky to play at a top level club again. He's already sat about 18months out. Critical development time. You don't just step back into it.

The Italians will try and turn him into a £50-60m player he’s only 21 he has time abs their morales are different from here, he will just step back into it because he’s such an annoying talent especially in the slower pace of Italy.
 
What player doesn’t exist? If you believe that only players who scored 30 goals in the PL last season are capable of scoring 30 goals next season, then we might as well not bother scouting at all.
I think the point is that you are advocating something without being able to name someone that might fit the bill? It's a no-brainer to sign a 26 year old for less money than Kane if he's capable of scoring 30 goals next season, but realistically how many of them are there in the world? Any player that meets that criteria is surely going to be valued incredibly highly by his club and there would be huge competition to sign him. That's another thing about Kane - IF he was to leave Spurs then we're probably in pole position to sign him. You definitely couldn't say that about many of the world's top players.
 
The Italians will try and turn him into a £50-60m player he’s only 21 he has time abs their morales are different from here, he will just step back into it because he’s such an annoying talent especially in the slower pace of Italy.

The Italians will buy him for 10-15m and he will later go for 50m in transfers between Italian clubs.
 
I would say qualifying for champions league worth more financially than selling Kane for 100m (20m per year instalment). When Spurs failed to qualify for CL one season, the next following season they somehow manage to qualify. I don’t think Spurs will qualify for CL next season but Levy probably thinks his team can qualify for champions league next season if he can keep kane.
 
You reckon? I think Richarlison does alright as a central forward for Brazil. As a wide forward I don't see much dynamic play or great dribbling. In the centre he's a nuisance with his channel runs, pressing, he can head it, he's shown he can score from that position. Not anywhere near Kane's rate but he can score.

I think that's part of his problem at Spurs. Wide he is kind of pointless and he's never going to outcompete Harry Kane. He was a strange signing at the time.

His best form at Everton always came wide left role with Calvert Lewin as the CF. Big risk to sell Kane and then tell fans guy who scored one prem goal all season is his replacement, even Spurs wouldn't do that surely.....

I think the plan two years ago was to get in Lauturo Martinez but that sort of signing now is beyond them with no europe so will have to go for more of a prospect, Sesko might be a decent move if they can prize him away from the RB empire.

Wonder if Lukaku will be offered to them during the summer as more of a short term fit aswell.
 
No it isnt however thats not my concern really - its what happens if we lose Kane. Ive said it earlier but I would honestly not be surprised if we ended up close to the bottom of the table without him.

You'll probably have a Chelsea type season but you have to be really really bad to be in relegation battle. You've still won 11 home games this season and comfortably beat Leeds today, that's a relegation standard team.
 
You'll probably have a Chelsea type season but you have to be really really bad to be in relegation battle. You've still won 11 home games this season and comfortably beat Leeds today, that's a relegation standard team.
Thing is, they’ll have to face life without him at some point. If he walks at the end of next season then that’s that. The problem for Levy (and us) is that the pressure on him is so great that selling Kane might be the final straw and cause a full-blown revolt against the board
 
Although Kane lacks pace, he is a lethal creator and is good at hold up play. Ten Hag likes target men type strikers.
Id be happy with Kane or Osimhen, but that calibre of forward is clearly needed.
 
30 goals for the crappy Spurs side is crazy to be honest

His age isn’t getting any younger but he’s never relied on pace and I’m sure he’s still banging in the goals for a few years yet

They're already calling for Levy’s head though it will be tough for him to sell Kane
 
Negotiating with Spurs and Levy is just not worth our time, we'll only end up wasting time and we're already super late to a lot of players this window thanks to Glazers being cnuts.

We cannot afford to mess up this summer because next year CL race is gonna be a lot harder with revamped Liverpool and Chelsea into the mix.
 
Please Mr Levy do your usual trick of pricing him out of a move again.
 
The Italians will buy him for 10-15m and he will later go for 50m in transfers between Italian clubs.
Yep that could happen but I think if we get bought by SJ or SJR they will view this very differently and look to make money he could be given a two year loan and sign a new 4 year contract that no one would find out about until next year to protect an asset however tainted. Then the new owner blames The Glazers as this was done before they took control !
 
The main reason why I want him to be our no.1 CF target is that the alternatives don't convince me (Ramos, Muani) or are too expensive (Osimhen). Any CF linked to us will cost more than 80m. Kane will guarantee us 25-30 goals (especially since he is already a proven EPL goalscorer unlike every other target) and we can look for a younger CF in 2024 or 2025 (Sesko, Ferguson, Hojlund) to replace him eventually.
I think we can two this year, Thuram on a free too
 
I'd be happy with this:

Dalot ----------------- Kim Min-Jae ----------------------- Martinez ------------------- Shaw

------------------------------ Rabiot --------------- Casemiro (Rice) -------------------------------

------ Antony ---------------------------------- Bruno --------------------------- Sancho -----------

------------------------------------------------------ Kane ----------------------------------------------------

Will Harry Kane unlock Jadon Sancho?
 
Big fan of him and I think him and Rashford would work extremely well together.

We need more technical players in the team who are multi-faceted in attack. He's one of the best creative passers in the world for a striker.

Levy is a giant issue though. If we're interested in him, we need to seek a quick resolution. Can't chase Kane for months and then scramble to find an alternative if they don't wish to sell him.
 
Levy will demand an amount and if it's not met, he'll keep Kane for the year and let his contract run out for free in '24.
 
I would say qualifying for champions league worth more financially than selling Kane for 100m (20m per year instalment). When Spurs failed to qualify for CL one season, the next following season they somehow manage to qualify. I don’t think Spurs will qualify for CL next season but Levy probably thinks his team can qualify for champions league next season if he can keep kane.

They have qualified once in the past 4 seasons. You are mixing the Poch years with their current avatar. There is very little quality left in this Spurs team.
 
I'd be happy with this:

Dalot ----------------- Kim Min-Jae ----------------------- Martinez ------------------- Shaw

------------------------------ Rabiot --------------- Casemiro (Rice) -------------------------------

------ Antony ---------------------------------- Bruno --------------------------- Sancho -----------

------------------------------------------------------ Kane ----------------------------------------------------

Will Harry Kane unlock Jadon Sancho?

Rashford?
Buy Rice to have him sitting on the bench?
Min-Jae is not better then Varane, he would be our third option.
And at the moment AWB is playing much better then Dalot, and I have a feeling he will just keep on improving under ETH.
 
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If Kane decides not to renew, then Levy will sell him. Most likely at the end of the transfer window with a lot of negotiations and rejections. No way they risk losing 60-70m considering they are not in Europe
 
Rashford?
Buy Rice to have him sitting on the bench?
Min-Jae is not better then Varane, he would be our third option.
And at the moment AWB is playing much better then Dalot, and I have a feeling he will just keep on improving under ETH.
Rashford to rotate with Kane.
Rice to rotate with Cas or play alongside him depending on the opposition. We know Cas is able to bomb forward and he's got a goal in him in advanced areas.
Min-Jae is younger than Varane and has better stats. Why would he be our third option. He walks into any first 11 in Europe.
 
What player doesn’t exist? If you believe that only players who scored 30 goals in the PL last season are capable of scoring 30 goals next season, then we might as well not bother scouting at all.
If there's a 26 year old out there with these abilities how come no one has an inkling who it is?
 
They have qualified once in the past 4 seasons. You are mixing the Poch years with their current avatar. There is very little quality left in this Spurs team.
Everyone who knows football know that Spurs have shit squad. But Levy thinks differently, he thinks as long as he has Kane, Spurs have chance to make it to top 4.
 
Rashford to rotate with Kane.
Rice to rotate with Cas or play alongside him depending on the opposition. We know Cas is able to bomb forward and he's got a goal in him in advanced areas.
Min-Jae is younger than Varane and has better stats. Why would he be our third option. He walks into any first 11 in Europe.
Do you seriously think these players (and all the other names mentioned) are going to move to a club to be a rotation player, Varane is one of the best CB's in the world, Min-Jae ain't replacing him anytime soon, why would Rice, a 24 year old international, go somewhere to be rotation player, and why would Rashford sign a new contract to be a rotation player?
 
Do you seriously think these players (and all the other names mentioned) are going to move to a club to be a rotation player, Varane is one of the best CB's in the world, Min-Jae ain't replacing him anytime soon, why would Rice, a 24 year old international, go somewhere to be rotation player, and why would Rashford sign a new contract to be a rotation player?
Harry is leaving. There's a slot for a 4th centreback.
If Kane is out injured, we're stuck with Martial (who himself is not reliable to stay fit long enough) and then no one else.
If Casemiro is out we've got Fred The Red. Do you put any faith into him performing to the highest level consistently?

As for rotation players, that's up to the club to make that case to the agents/players themselves. Issue is we severely lacking in depth. One knock to one of Martial, Cas or Varane and we're back to Ole ball.

We need depth if we're going to be challenging for any trophies.
 
Harry is leaving. There's a slot for a 4th centreback.
If Kane is out injured, we're stuck with Martial (who himself is not reliable to stay fit long enough) and then no one else.
If Casemiro is out we've got Fred The Red. Do you put any faith into him performing to the highest level consistently?

As for rotation players, that's up to the club to make that case to the agents/players themselves. Issue is we severely lacking in depth. One knock to one of Martial, Cas or Varane and we're back to Ole ball.

We need depth if we're going to be challenging for any trophies.
Proven and established top level international players aren't joining United (or anyone else) just to be rotation players unless they're offered seriously OTT wages, we need to be looking at players that are not yet established with good potential, ones like Malacia
 
Proven and established top level international players aren't joining United (or anyone else) just to be rotation players unless they're offered seriously OTT wages, we need to be looking at players that are not yet established with good potential, ones like Malacia
Mate I'm just going by what players we've been linked with. Ideally I'd love for us to be more shrewed in the transfer window and scoop up players that cost a lot less but with future world class potential so I agree with you on that.
 
Mate I'm just going by what players we've been linked with. Ideally I'd love for us to be more shrewed in the transfer window and scoop up players that cost a lot less but with future world class potential so I agree with you on that.
Of the players we've been "linked" with I'd choose Kane and Rice but I doubt it'll happen