Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

[L1nk]

There's no doubting he's good. Is he worth what he would cost? Is he that good? No. Will he have to be replaced in three years time. Yes.

Players at that age come at discounts for a reason. Get him on a free in 2024.

Pretty much this, the market is really screwed up unfortunately.

RVP had a 37 goal season with Arsenal, he was like a year younger than Kane currently is, had a year left, and we signed him for around 23 million. Now we’re expected to do a similar deal for a similar calibre of player and we’re talking around 100 million or so.

100 million that is well reportedly to be roughly our budget, within ffp rules, without any sales, so whilst Kane is quality of course, are people really that surprised others are balking at the idea of spending nearly our entire budget pre sales on one player who will be 30 and have a potential to decline within 2-3 years, whilst also needing to sign quality players in other positions?

I like Kane, he’s an amazing player, but I think as a team we’ll be better of stretching our budget on younger quality players for the longer term, namely we could get Costa and say Hojlund for around the same price if not less than Tottenham would fleece us for Kane

 

[userman]

Signing Harry Kane + a more complete GK + a better CM = title challenge next season.

If the ambition is immediate success (titles) then Kane is the obvious choice as new CF.
The others are unproven in the PL and has limited track records elsewhere, or as the case with Osimhen he’ll be unavailable for at least a month of the season because of the AFCON.

 

[sullydnl]

Obviously Utd will need more than Kane. The goal difference between Utd and City is quite frankly embarrassing.

Utd desperately need a goal scorer and Kane is easily the best (by a country mile) realistic option.

He's certainly the best option if you want a near-guarantee of a lot of goals in the short term and you're happy to take a guaranteed lack pace, pressing and dynamism from your CF in return. And are okay the price and the increased risks invoved in signing a 30 year old to a team where other key players are also in that age bracket.

But it should hardly be surprising that some people aren't.

 

[Wilt]

He's certainly the best option if you want a near-guarantee of a lot of goals in the short term and you're happy to take a guaranteed lack pace, pressing and dynamism from your CF in return. And are okay the price and the increased risks invoved in signing a 30 year old to a team where other key players are also in that age bracket.

But it should hardly be surprising that some people aren't.

There are also those (idiots) who think Haaland a “one trick pony” “tap in merchant”…..

 

[Silverman]

He's quality. Would immediately push us to genuine contenders.

 

[foolsgold]

Anybody who doesn’t want Kane is a halfwit.

Enjoy another five years in obscurity, boys.

That's overly simplistic, is Kane a greater striker ? Absolutely but that doesn't make him the correct signing at any price.

 

[The Firestarter]

Kane can be the difference between a real challenge and another top 4, but only If we sign a bunch of other creative players. Maybe he can work well with Rashford. Bruno is extremely erratic these days. On his day he can pull magic , but that's rare. Antony is one trick pony for now. Eriksen is good at the right circumstance but nit under pressure. Garnacho I have great hope for, but still far to young to put pressure on him.

My fear is we sign Kane and then wonder why we finished 3rd

 

[van Nistelrooy]

I think it would be a masterstoke to buy him with a younger striker. On his own there would be a lot of pressure and he’s not getting any younger.

Really like the prospect of Harry Kane with Evan Ferguson coming in, but I imagine the younger of the two is even less likely after just signing a new contract.

 

[Sied]

Really like the prospect of Harry Kane with Evan Ferguson coming in, but I imagine the younger of the two is even less likely after just signing a new contract.

Like Kane and... Greenwood

 

[Bastian]

Zidane went to Madrid when he was the exact same age as Kane is now...

Zidane was Zidane. I'd buy 30 year old Messi, Ronnie, Ronaldo, Modric, Xavi, Iniesta...

 

[Dominos]

His type are world class until 33/34. He will age like Benzema imo

The problem is we're guessing and hoping.

He may be Benzema, but we've also had players around that age just aging overnight. Sanchez, Matic, RVP just off the top of my head.

Kane is also one of those players who is also very clearly past his physical prime already, even if he's still in his prime as a footballer due to his technical ability and intelligence. He was never quick but he was a lot faster a few years ago, and his pressing seems to have fallen off a cliff also.

If he was the final piece of the jigsaw in a team that was just falling short of the title, then it would make sense. The problem is I'm not sure we're close to a title next season even with Kane given all the other weaknesses in our team/squad. In which case you have to look at it, is he gonna be the player we need in 2-3 seasons time when we're actually ready to win a title?

If the age profile of our squad elsewhere was young so we could afford to have one player who may be a short-term signing, it may make more sense. But I have similar concerns about the age profile of our midfield and Varane too. We don't want a lot of players hitting a past-their-prime level at the same time.

 

[Appletonred]

Absolute no brainer, a guaranteed 30 goals takes us to actually challenging for the title, he has to be the number one transfer target this summer.

 

[talking robot]

Maybe a quick win with Harry is worth it. He gives us 1-2 years with a shot at the title. It may be enough to push us to another level, a bit like caseimero.

 

[NewUser777]

I mean in all competitions in the last 5 years he has scored 137 goals in 220 appearances. That includes his injury hit seasons as well. That is still over a goal every 2 games. Not too many strikers in the league can match those sorts of figures. Not too many in Europe either. You can compare that to Rashford as an example who has scored over 27 goals (Kane's average as you say in past 5 years) only once in his career. Kane is a top tier striker just from his goals alone, but he also is a playmaker which gives him added value. I certainly would not say he is overhyped, if anything he is underrated in England in my opinion.

Rashford is playing wide, and Haaland double those goal pr game numbers.. Kane is definitely not what we need..

 

[Demaw]

Hate to say this but City don't go near these types of players at 30, and not at 100 million. This could be a Sanchez again and all of a sudden, we say he is getting old. If we paid 100 million four years ago, definitely. This will be another silly recruiting error FOR long term. Paying a 34 year old striker in 4 years time 250-300k a week. No way!! This ship has passed.

 

[NewUser777]

Maybe a quick win with Harry is worth it. He gives us 1-2 years with a shot at the title. It may be enough to push us to another level, a bit like caseimero.

Yes. If we get him around 30mill. Other wise, no thanx

 

[Hammondo]

Buy him, start him, drop Bruno to the bench or push him to the wing and strengthen the midfield with another player that gives the ball away less consistently from that position. With Kane dropping often you get the creatively centrally that Bruno might otherwise provide.

I do not see us challenging City still. I think it will take more.

 

[Hammondo]

Meaning he never was bad enough to play for a team of the level of Spurs. Kane is a big fish at a small pond everyone is catering to him do you think Antony and Rashford will cater to him if they can score and go for glory themselves.

not too dissimilar to RVP at arsenal.

 

[Demaw]

Dominos is exactly right, we are trying a lot of old heads in the team to make top 4 etc. Varane, Harry, Cas, Eriksen, De Gea, Fred, even Bruno is getting on. No good another 30 year old for long term success.

 

[Hammondo]

Beginning to wonder if you know who Kane is?

If we got Kane their striker and attackers would still be better than ours, their midfield would be MUCH better than ours, their GK would be better than ours, only our defenders would be better or equal.

 

[Jam]

Right now based on this season and ability (only based on their current abilities and how they played this past season) how would people rank these:

• Kane
• Lewandowski
• Benzema

 

[Hammondo]

Absolute no brainer, a guaranteed 30 goals takes us to actually challenging for the title, he has to be the number one transfer target this summer.

City have 40 more goals scored than us, and 10 less goals conceded, Kane is not at all making us a challenger.

 

[VP89]

Dominos is exactly right, we are trying a lot of old heads in the team to make top 4 etc. Varane, Harry, Cas, Eriksen, De Gea, Fred, even Bruno is getting on. No good another 30 year old for long term success.

Rashford, Antony, Licha, (young CM signing), Garnacho, Sancho, Shaw, Dalot (or AWB).

There's a balanced squad, not an old squad. Every team that's going for major honours needs balance. We dont have enough established experience (or any in fact) in our front 3. We are desperate for Kane in that role really.

 

[Ted Lasso]

I do not see us challenging City still. I think it will take more.

I'm hoping lighting can strike us twice here and that Kane can give us a RVP type impact and season.

not too dissimilar to RVP at arsenal.

What'd Fergie say, "pass to Robin or your out of the team". Hope Erik has it in him to do the same if we sign Kane.

 

[sullydnl]

I'm hoping lighting can strike us twice here and that Kane can give us a RVP type impact and season.



What'd Fergie say, "pass to Robin or your out of the team". Hope Erik has it in him to do the same if we sign Kane.

The situation when RVP arrived versus now isn't even remotely comparable.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

I'm hoping lighting can strike us twice here and that Kane can give us a RVP type impact and season.



What'd Fergie say, "pass to Robin or your out of the team". Hope Erik has it in him to do the same if we sign Kane.

We already had a squad capable of winning the league, and should’ve won it the year before. We’re miles off now.

 

[Hughes35]

Signing Kane is an absolute no brainer. A must have player.

Him, and a couple of younger players would be great business. I also Greenwood will come back in at the start of the new season so itvwill essentially be 4 new players.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

Signing Kane is an absolute no brainer. A must have player.

Him, and a couple of younger players would be great business. I also Greenwood will come back in at the start of the new season so itvwill essentially be 4 new players.

Greenwood won’t be coming back.

 

[Wilt]

If we got Kane their striker and attackers would still be better than ours, their midfield would be MUCH better than ours, their GK would be better than ours, only our defenders would be better or equal.

In other words (according to you) Utd may as well forget about challenging City ….just continue being second rate at best?

 

[Dominos]

Rashford, Antony, Licha, (young CM signing), Garnacho, Sancho, Shaw, Dalot (or AWB).

There's a balanced squad, not an old squad. Every team that's going for major honours needs balance. We dont have enough established experience (or any in fact) in our front 3. We are desperate for Kane in that role really.

Would Haaland and Osimhen be bad signings for our attack because they're not "established experience"? It's about quality, not age, there's no benefit to being 30+. Kane would offer something to us because he's a good player, not because he's about to hit 30. He'd have been a better signing when he was 24 despite not being as experienced.

The point is, some players over 30 drop a level, some drop several levels. We only have to look at Matic, Sanchez, Rooney, RVP in our recent history who dropped off a cliff at a relatively young age. Sometimes you get lucky and they last a bit longer, but it's not predictable who will last and when their time will come.

You don't want to simultaneously fill your first team with a lot of 30+ players because great teams are mostly built of players in their physical prime, and they're in danger of declining simultaneously, leaving you with a major rebuild.

You could argue Liverpool have just suffered a bit from age profile of certain parts of their squad this season where they've gone from title contenders to top 4 contenders.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

He sells to Prem clubs all the time… it will be hard but we will get it done.

Speaking about that, I wonder when was the last time he sold his players to PL clubs top 6? And which player?

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

What exactly is the rationale behind people advocating 80-100 million on him this summer, anyway? What exactly are we really envisaging him doing next season that justifies this fee, when you can just get into his and his agent's ear and throw a huge paycheque at them both for the following summer? I can't get my head around that situation.

I think it's the incoming Qatari Monopoly money clouding people's judgment. That, and maybe the thirst for winning the league again.

Others have pointed out (and I agree) that we are a few pieces short of the complete set needed to compete with Man City. Whatever areas they are deficient in, there's nothing stopping them from buying two players for that position for next season. We, on the other hand, need to get a starting XI that fully functions, and I don't see how we are doing that short of Boehly-like profligacy, even with Qatari owners.

If things go as they have gone the last few years and we have about 150 million to spend, we would be foolish to buy Kane. Kane on a free, however, sure, why not. Even if Kane comes in next season and does RvP-like business for us, and somehow we pip City to the title, it's not sustainable. Kane will be entering the glide phase of his trajectory and Haaland will still be at the same level he is now for another 10 years, God help us if he improves.

So I would think planning for sustained pressure, for a sustained tilt at the title, is the way to go. We need to spend on players with a different profile. That, and we need to figure out how Brighton & Hove assembled a squad that can go toe to toe with the big boys, but on a limited budget.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

No way, rvp has never done close for a team of the level of spurs that Kane has.

RvP gift-wrapped the premier league title for his team. Kane bottled a CL final, among other things.

 

[croadyman]

Yes I agree that we are much more than signing Kane away from challenging,however who do you suggest we bring in this summer as a striker then. I also find it very hard to believe we will wait until he's available on a free.

 

[SirReginald]

City will sign Kane as back up to Haaland with all the money they’ll get from winning the PL and CL.

Can definitely see United signing Ohsimen if you can sort out the ownership. Otherwise it might be a pretty hard summer for you guys. Can’t see the Glazers going big if they’re legitimately trying to sell the club.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

City will sign Kane as back up to Haaland with all the money they’ll get from winning the PL and CL.

Can definitely see United signing Ohsimen if you can sort out the ownership. Otherwise it might be a pretty hard summer for you guys. Can’t see the Glazers going big if they’re legitimately trying to sell the club.

 

[croadyman]

City will sign Kane as back up to Haaland with all the money they’ll get from winning the PL and CL.

Can definitely see United signing Ohsimen if you can sort out the ownership. Otherwise it might be a pretty hard summer for you guys. Can’t see the Glazers going big if they’re legitimately trying to sell the club.

Have you seen the Osimhen price,plus there is the small matter of us needing at least GK,CB,2 midfielders and backup striker

 

[cyberman]

The problem is we're guessing and hoping.

He may be Benzema, but we've also had players around that age just aging overnight. Sanchez, Matic, RVP just off the top of my head.

Kane is also one of those players who is also very clearly past his physical prime already, even if he's still in his prime as a footballer due to his technical ability and intelligence. He was never quick but he was a lot faster a few years ago, and his pressing seems to have fallen off a cliff also.

If he was the final piece of the jigsaw in a team that was just falling short of the title, then it would make sense. The problem is I'm not sure we're close to a title next season even with Kane given all the other weaknesses in our team/squad. In which case you have to look at it, is he gonna be the player we need in 2-3 seasons time when we're actually ready to win a title?

If the age profile of our squad elsewhere was young so we could afford to have one player who may be a short-term signing, it may make more sense. But I have similar concerns about the age profile of our midfield and Varane too. We don't want a lot of players hitting a past-their-prime level at the same time.

I have a theory about Kanes season.
Due to Conte playing 5 at the back and now basically giving up, the pressing etc was non existent for them. They weren’t working hard around him so their play slowed down. Kane was in a position of facing little space in front of him without anybody running in behind.
He almost found himself in the position if he did play for us. We don’t run in behind but hold possession out wide and work positions in confined spaces. Any lack of pace was negated simply because Spurs never created the space to use.
Most headed goals in a season, most games scored in throughout a season, only player to score his tally and not win golden boot. This came out of nowhere and in Spurs worst season for decades. Those records achieved in a team that’ll finish 9th/10th. That’s not guessing and hoping, that’s facts right in front of us. The man is aging like fine wine, a class act.
Is there any evidence saying he’ll be our only signing of the season because that’s kind of what final piece of jigsaw means. He’ll come in with 2/3 players more and we’ll be infinitely better off for it.
I’d argue we would get more years from Kane than City will from Haaland.

 

[Mainoldo]

Speaking about that, I wonder when was the last time he sold his players to PL clubs top 6? And which player?

Kyle Walker.

 

[dinostar77]

City will sign Kane as back up to Haaland with all the money they’ll get from winning the PL and CL.

Can definitely see United signing Ohsimen if you can sort out the ownership. Otherwise it might be a pretty hard summer for you guys. Can’t see the Glazers going big if they’re legitimately trying to sell the club.