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If Ansu Fati can be given regular time at Barcelona (inc starting against Dortmund in CL) at the age of 16, this guy should be considered to start in our terrible midfield. Same with Garner. They can't do worse.
From an individual POV maybe but if you look at the general context, Barca aren't great. Should have lost that Dortmund and have only played Ansu because of injuriesIf Ansu Fati can be given regular time at Barcelona (inc starting against Dortmund in CL) at the age of 16, this guy should be considered to start in our terrible midfield. Same with Garner. They can't do worse.
Yes but at least they gave him chance to play. No harm doing that. Ole is all talk about giving chance to youth but keep playing them 80th mark . Wth they gonna do in that time.From an individual POV maybe but if you look at the general context, Barca aren't great. Should have lost that Dortmund and have only played Ansu because of injuries
Ansu Fati is playing because literally no one elses is available. He'll go right back to the B squad once Messi and Dembele are fit.If Ansu Fati can be given regular time at Barcelona (inc starting against Dortmund in CL) at the age of 16, this guy should be considered to start in our terrible midfield. Same with Garner. They can't do worse.
It's funny that you mention that because he's currently tearing it up in for Lyon's reserve in Nat 2 and had a game with 18 dribbles completed and a goal against Zenith in the Youth League so Lyon fans are asking for him to replace Cornet and Traore who haven't performed that well so far, Armand Garrido who spent 25 years training Lyon's U17 team was asked about this in interview and replied that it was unealthy for a 16 year old to be in a locker room with adults, hear them talk about adult stuff as well as leave the stadium with expensive cars, they would rather have a talented player remain with kids his age so that he remains humble and focused.Yeah, his strength on the ball and overall tenaciousness in the game vs. Everton came as a nice surprise. I was erroneously envisioning him as a languid technical player who might need to develop other facets of his game as he goes long (at least that's the impression he gave in short Youtube compilations from his Monaco stint), but the lad looks really determined and complete for his age, wiry physique notwithstanding.
We've seen young midfielders like Ihattaren, Camavinga, Guendouzi get a chance at PSV, Rennes and Lorient at age 16 — and while United plays in a much more competitive league, maybe this kid can be fast-tracked, too — if not this year then perhaps next. Perfect time for him to be at the club as well, we need a quality and quantity in midfield, and he just might be able to get a cup game here or there.
Hope we're still interested in Cherki, too — he's supposed to be the biggest French talent from Mejbri's age-group and the most exciting prospect at Lyon since Ben Arfa and Benzema in the mid 2000s. In the contemporary market it's better to snap up talents at 15-16 because their value goes through the roof with just one good season at first team level.
Ansu Fati is playing because literally no one elses is available. He'll go right back to the B squad once Messi and Dembele are fit.
Throwing a young winger on a team that is used to have close to 70% ball possession every single game is a lot different than throwing a young midfielder into the mess that is Manchester United at the moment.Whilst I don't think we should be fast tracking this lad so soon, we do not have a Messi or Dembele level of player to be keeping any youth players out of our midfield. Especially with Pogba injured
Throwing a young winger on a team that is used to have close to 70% ball possession every single game is a lot different than throwing a young midfielder into the mess that is Manchester United at the moment.
I don't think a player so young should have to deal with the negativity and backlash that playing for the 1st team currently brings.
Good to know, and that seems a sensible approach when you consider how many gifted youngsters are side-tracked or overwhelmed while transitioning to senior football instead of being afforded the appropriate amount of space and time to progress organically in a down-to-earth and age-appropriate manner. The hype does seem to be out of control at the moment — I've only seen one match vs. Ajax, highlights vs. Zenit and assorted compilations/clips featuring Cherki, where he does look a cracking talent (if a bit in love with the ball and himself when he had simple passing opportunities) — but some lads on another forum were calling him the outstanding Platini/Zidane caliber of individual from his generation of French players, the greatest talent of the last 20-25 years, and better than Mbappé at the same age...is he really that good (consistency of development, fitness and professionalism permitting in the future) or is there a massive dollop of exaggeration and partisanship in those assessments?It's funny that you mention that because he's currently tearing it up in for Lyon's reserve in Nat 2 and had a game with 18 dribbles completed and a goal against Zenith in the Youth League so Lyon fans are asking for him to replace Cornet and Traore who haven't performed that well so far, Armand Garrido who spent 25 years training Lyon's U17 team was asked about this in interview and replied that it was unealthy for a 16 year old to be in a locker room with adults, hear them talk about adult stuff as well as leave the stadium with expensive cars, they would rather have a talented player remain with kids his age so that he remains humble and focused.
Good to know, and that seems a sensible approach when you consider how many gifted youngsters are side-tracked or overwhelmed while transitioning to senior football instead of being afforded the appropriate amount of space and time to progress organically in a down-to-earth and age-appropriate manner. The hype does seem to be out of control at the moment — I've only seen one match vs. Ajax, highlights vs. Zenit and assorted compilations/clips featuring Cherki, where he does look a cracking talent (if a bit in love with the ball and himself when he had simple passing opportunities) — but some lads on another forum were calling him the outstanding Platini/Zidane caliber of individual from his generation of French players, the greatest talent of the last 20-25 years, and better than Mbappé at the same age...is he really that good (consistency of development, fitness and professionalism permitting in the future) or is there a massive dollop of exaggeration and partisanship in those assessments?
Aye, he certainly looks more of a Laudrup/Zidane type of technical playmaker who waltzes through the opposition and possesses the gift of la pausa on the ball than a Fenómeno/Henry type forward who knocks your socks off as a direct menace with outrageous acceleration — I was just relaying the general comparison I'd seen between the two on another forum by Ligue 1 posters, who can't/won't stop gushing over the kid and reckon he is better in his category than Mbappé in his at a similar age (which sounds incredulous because the latter has since taken football by storm and is one of the most accomplished of the modern era). How his athleticism, overall game and personality translates to the senior level remains to be seen, and if he has even 80% of Mbappé's overall impact...Cherki would go on to have an illustrious career, really.He's completely different to Mbappe who has frightening levels of pace.
He is the most talented French player ever, Espoirsdufoot was created 25 years hence why they said the best in 25 years rather than best ever.Good to know, and that seems a sensible approach when you consider how many gifted youngsters are side-tracked while transitioning to senior football instead of being afforded the appropriate amount of space and time to progress organically in a down-to-earth and age-appropriate manner. The hype does seem to be out of control at the moment — I've only seen one match vs. Ajax and assorted highlights featuring Cherki, where he does look a talent — but some lads on another forum were calling him the outstanding Platini/Zidane caliber of individual from his generation of French players, the greatest talent of the last 20-25 years, and better than Mbappé at the same age...is he really that good (consistency of development, fitness and professionalism permitting) or is there a massive dollop of exaggeration/partisanship in those assessments?
Ridiculous is a good way to describe him.That sounds ridiculous about Cherki.
Ridiculous is a good way to describe him.
Watch his latest game in YL he completed 18 dribbles and won 20 challenges according to @Ftalentscout
They can be worse, that hyperbole doesn’t help much.Fabregas was thrown in at same age. I really can’t see how talented players like Mejbri and Garner can do WORSE than Matic. And if they actually do worse, they arent ruined as players after a couple games.
Fabregas was coming into an established and successful side with the likes of Gilberto Silva and Patrick Vieira next to him and was kept entirely out of the league picture for a good while before he became a regular. Completely different set of circumstances.Fabregas was thrown in at same age. I really can’t see how talented players like Mejbri and Garner can do WORSE than Matic. And if they actually do worse, they arent ruined as players after a couple games.
Ridiculous is a good way to describe him.
Watch his latest game in YL he completed 18 dribbles and won 20 challenges according to @Ftalentscout
Fabregas was thrown in at same age. I really can’t see how talented players like Mejbri and Garner can do WORSE than Matic. And if they actually do worse, they arent ruined as players after a couple games.
Couldn’t give a shit about this Cherki bloke. If you want to discuss him, start a thread about him. This thread is about Mejbri. Looked decent in those highlights. Hopefully he starts the next U23s game.
Ridiculous is a good way to describe him.
Watch his latest game in YL he completed 18 dribbles and won 20 challenges according to @Ftalentscout
We need to sign this lad up as well. Very impressive for a 16 year old
Mejbri GomesImagine in few years time our midfield could look like this:
Mctominay Hannibal
Maddison
May be very good. May also not be.Imagine in few years time our midfield could look like this:
Mctominay Hannibal
Maddison
Signed a senior contract with Lyon less than a month ago I believe.We need to sign this lad up as well. Very impressive for a 16 year old
So what exactly Mejbri is?
Flair midfield player ala Pogba?
All action midfielder ala Gerrard?
Neat passer ala Scholes?
No nonsense technical midfielder ala De Bruyne?
Can someone enlighten me?