Hannibal Mejbri | Birmingham Loan Watch

[supernaniskill]

If they get promoted, he will have been a large reason why and will have demonstrated that he's ready for major minutes for us next season. I don't see us sending him on loan again, he looks ready to me.

Garner did this with Forest and the mugs upstairs still green lit his sale. I suppose it also comes down to if EtH see’s a place for the player too, maybe EtH didn’t for Garner but hoping he does for Hannibal.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Garner did this with Forest and the mugs upstairs still green lit his sale. I suppose it also comes down to if EtH see’s a place for the player too, maybe EtH didn’t for Garner but hoping he does for Hannibal.

I've not followed both careers extensively but of what I've seen of either, Mejbri is levels above Garner talent wise. No way we would sell him so soon unless it's a ridiculous offer.

 

[Strootman's Finger]

Garner did this with Forest and the mugs upstairs still green lit his sale. I suppose it also comes down to if EtH see’s a place for the player too, maybe EtH didn’t for Garner but hoping he does for Hannibal.

Garner was sold because he was one of the very few assets that could be sold for a decent profit this summer. It was a business decision, not a football decision.

 

[Bojan Djordjic]

Garner was sold because he was one of the very few assets that could be sold for a decent profit this summer. It was a business decision, not a football decision.

Yeah and the correct one if you ask me. We got 15mn for a guy who was ever only going to top out as a squad player. Need to be making more of these sensible moves when players put themselves in the shop window. Could have got 50mn from Chelsea a few years ago for Henderson which we should have taken and run.

 

[Strootman's Finger]

Yeah and the correct one if you ask me. We got 15mn for a guy who was ever only going to top out as a squad player. Need to be making more of these sensible moves when players put themselves in the shop window. Could have got 50mn from Chelsea a few years ago for Henderson which we should have taken and run.

Generally this club sucks at selling players

 

[Trex]

Garner was sold because he was one of the very few assets that could be sold for a decent profit this summer. It was a business decision, not a football decision.

United have never been known to do that, it was a footballing decision, he had been on a couple of loans and it was time to settle somewhere either here or elsewhere.
Clearly ETH wouldn't guarantee a prominent role i.e he didn't rate him all that hence he was sold.

 

[Red00012]

Garner was sold because he was one of the very few assets that could be sold for a decent profit this summer. It was a business decision, not a football decision.

If Garner was decent he would have been kept. It was a footballing decision as well as a business decision

 

[mav_9me]

So far Mejbri has had a poor game. Gave away the ball couple of times, now gives away a free kick on the edge of the box in a dangerous position for Sunderland. Got a yellow card too.

 

[Red00012]

He’s not been great so far and the yellow won’t help things now, I think Eustace took him off the last time he got booked early.
The yellow was harsh though

 

[mav_9me]

He’s not been great so far and the yellow won’t help things now, I think Eustace took him off the last time he got booked early.
The yellow was harsh though

Won't be surprised to see Hannibal come off now, unnecessary mild altercation with the Sunderland LB.

 

[Champ]

Going to be an early bath again one way or another here.
Either sent off or hauled off yet again.

Needs to grow up and channel that energy, becoming to easy for opposition players to wind him up

 

[Red00012]

He’ll be taken off at half time

 

[Messier1994]

He’s not been great so far and the yellow won’t help things now, I think Eustace took him off the last time he got booked early.
The yellow was harsh though

Yeah, what kind of treatment is Hannibal getting by the ref’s anyway?? He touches one guy’s arm once (a yellow) and then gets a little little tangled up with a defender shielding the ball when it rolls over the line while Hannibal tries to get around him — and he is treated like he should be sent off instantly.

I watch a lot of League One games. He could play 50 games like this and never be booked even once there. Definitely getting targeted right now. Really pitiful. If he is pulled at half time it’s the second time while he really does nothing that even deserves a yellow.

Diallo had a great 1st though.

He rightfully got booked,

He was involved in a tussle within the very first kick of the game, which really set the tone for the half.
Unfortunately for all his obvious talent, his temperament is going to be an issue unless he changes.

Of course not, the player dove after Hannibal’s hand just glanced him on the shoulder.

And sure, he obstructed a guy of the kick off, but that is nothing. If Hannibal should be border line sent off for this — Sheffield United should have had 11 red cards during the game against Burnley last week.

So he makes himself annoying to play against. Hardly makes him unique in English football.

 

[Gordon S]

Fantastic engine! Is constantly moving. Good agression and dedication.
But overall a very mixed bag from him so far.

 

[Champ]

Yeah, what kind of treatment is Hannibal getting by the ref’s anyway?? He touches one guy’s arm once (a yellow) and then gets a little little tangled up with a defender shielding the ball when it rolls over the line while Hannibal tries to get around him — and he is treated like he should be sent off instantly.

I watch a lot of League One games. He could play 50 games like this and never be booked even once there. Definitely getting targeted right now. Really pitiful.

He rightfully got booked,

He was involved in a tussle within the very first kick of the game, which really set the tone for the half.
Unfortunately for all his obvious talent, his temperament is going to be an issue unless he changes.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

Walking red card at times.

 

[Bondi77]

I've not followed both careers extensively but of what I've seen of either, Mejbri is levels above Garner talent wise. No way we would sell him so soon unless it's a ridiculous offer.

Hard to work out how you say "levels above" based on the Championship performances from both players?

 

[CallyRed]

He just wants to have tear up all the time.

 

[Samid]

Beaten too easily for the second goal.

 

[Deery]

Bit full of himself isn’t he..

 

[Demaw]

I've not followed both careers extensively but of what I've seen of either, Mejbri is levels above Garner talent wise. No way we would sell him so soon unless it's a ridiculous offer.

Garner never looked like a world beater!!!! 15 million plus is very good money. Hannibal always had a much higher ceiling.

 

[Idxomer]

He had a bad game, a bit like Fred at his worst.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Hard to work out how you say "levels above" based on the Championship performances from both players?

Like I said before, probably not best to take my words as gospel but I have seen quite a fair bit of in-game all touch compilations of both and pretty much all their game time here at Utd. Mejbri on an individual level (to me) has a better touch, ball carrying ability, sharper short passing range, physicality and desire. Garner may turn out to be the better player in the future because perhaps he may fit more stylistically in a team but my money is on Mejbri having more of an impact. Based on other's comments, i don't think it's a hot take tbh.

 

[Bondi77]

Like I said before, probably not best to take my words as gospel but I have seen quite a fair bit of in-game all touch compilations of both and pretty much all their game time here at Utd. Mejbri on an individual level (to me) has a better touch, ball carrying ability, sharper short passing range, physicality and desire. Garner may turn out to be the better player in the future because perhaps he may fit more stylistically in a team but my money is on Mejbri having more of an impact. Based on other's comments, i don't think it's a hot take tbh.

Better ball carrier and a tighter technique and more energy are traits of his that are superior to Garner from what I have seen but then again I would say that composure, a long passing game and finishing are traits that Garner comes out on top in.
The only comparisons I can make are the games they have played in the Championship and Hannibal has not reached the level that Garner reached as of yet. I am not saying that he will not reach those levels or even surge past them as we all know talent and application are things that have to be maintained week in week out to play at the highest level.

 

[Adnan]

Birmingham were unlucky and should've got at least draw.

But this was a game between two teams with contrasting styles. Birmingham as usual went direct and utilised the counterpess to win the ball high up the pitch. And Sunderland stood off and looked to break on the counter by maintaining numbers in defence which opened up space for the second goal which Amad finished off superbly well.

The way Birmingham play there's no build up phase from the defensive to middle third. So instead they either look to go long with their keeper or one of their CBs looks for the wide receiver, which is normally one of the wingbacks who is high up the pitch waiting for the long diagonal ball. And when you approach games like that, Hannibal has to adapt and battle for the ball in a collective counter pressing approach.

I've watched most of Birmingham's games and it's been a effective approach which has yielded results. But it's a approach that requires the players to win the ball high up the pitch and to then quickly with a minimal amount of passes to get the ball into the box for a shot on goal. That doesn't really suit Hanninal as far as what he can offer on the ball, but I feel it's going to help him develop his off the ball pressing game which is important for any coach who looks to implement a proactive, attacking play style with pressing and counter pressing capabilities. And Birmingham City currently don't look to build play through the midfield, but they do look to press high and that I feel is only going to benefit Hannibal.

And under a coach like ten Hag, it's going to be extremely important to bring the intensity and pressing. And in that regard I feel he's coming along really well.

For Sundeland's second goal, Hannibal went to press the opponent and the Sunderland player evaded the pressure and played a brilliant ball to Amad who was in space to finish with aplomb. But that's something he will learn with more games and added experience. But I would honestly rather see him defend high up with a element of risk, rather than sit back and play on the counter, because Erik ten Hag won't want the players to do that in the way he wants to control the game, both on the ball and off the ball.

 

[mav_9me]

Birmingham were unlucky and should've got at least draw.

But this was a game between two teams with contrasting styles. Birmingham as usual went direct and utilised the counterpess to win the ball high up the pitch. And Sunderland stood off and looked to break on the counter by maintaining numbers in defence which opened up space for the second goal which Amad finished off superbly well.

The way Birmingham play there's no build up phase from the defensive to middle third. So instead they either look to go long with their keeper or one of their CBs looks for the wide receiver, which is normally one of the wingbacks who is high up the pitch waiting for the long diagonal ball. And when you approach games like that, Hannibal has to adapt and battle for the ball in a collective counter pressing approach.

I've watched most of Birmingham's games and it's been a effective approach which has yielded results. But it's a approach that requires the players to win the ball high up the pitch and to then quickly with a minimal amount of passes to get the ball into the box for a shot on goal. That doesn't really suit Hanninal as far as what he can offer on the ball, but I feel it's going to help him develop his off the ball pressing game which is important for any coach who looks to implement a proactive, attacking play style with pressing and counter pressing capabilities. And Birmingham City currently don't look to build play through the midfield, but they do look to press high and that I feel is only going to benefit Hannibal.

And under a coach like ten Hag, it's going to be extremely important to bring the intensity and pressing. And in that regard I feel he's coming along really well.

For Sundeland's second goal, Hannibal went to press the opponent and the Sunderland player evaded the pressure and played a brilliant ball to Amad who was in space to finish with aplomb. But that's something he will learn with more games and added experience. But I would honestly rather see him defend high up with a element of risk, rather than sit back and play on the counter, because Erik ten Hag won't want the players to do that in the way he wants to control the game, both on the ball and off the ball.

Good point.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Better ball carrier and a tighter technique and more energy are traits of his that are superior to Garner from what I have seen but then again I would say that composure, a long passing game and finishing are traits that Garner comes out on top in.
The only comparisons I can make are the games they have played in the Championship and Hannibal has not reached the level that Garner reached as of yet. I am not saying that he will not reach those levels or even surge past them as we all know talent and application are things that have to be maintained week in week out to play at the highest level.

Sounds like you've watched more of them in the Championship so I'll trust your comments. The thing about the bolded though is that from what I saw of Garner, I'm not sure if he has the athleticism, touch and/or type of game to be 'high level' effective i.e enough for Utd to do that on his own terms. It's just an inkling but I didn't see much to suggest he's nimble enough to be press resistant in those 1-5 yard pockets of space or has the lungs to be box to box. He's still so young so he may develop into that and I'm not writing him off but he wasn't going to get the game time or development here at United because as I said before, I don't think his base is as strong as Mejbri.

To be fair, I suppose you're basing on what they've done and shown, whilst I'm projecting their potential and we all know that's a slippery slope!

 

[Adnan]

Good point.

Birmingham also played 4 games in 9 days and looked pretty jaded. And that will take it's toll on the players who are constantly required to press/counter press high up the pitch.

 

[Bondi77]

Sounds like you've watched more of them in the Championship so I'll trust your comments. The thing about the bolded though is that from what I saw of Garner, I'm not sure if he has the athleticism, touch and/or type of game to be 'high level' effective i.e enough for Utd to do that on his own terms. It's just an inkling but I didn't see much to suggest he's nimble enough to be press resistant in those 1-5 yard pockets of space or has the lungs to be box to box. He's still so young so he may develop into that and I'm not writing him off but he wasn't going to get the game time or development here at United because as I said before, I don't think his base is as strong as Mejbri.

To be fair, I suppose you're basing on what they've done and shown, whilst I'm projecting their potential and we all know that's a slippery slope!

Utd sold him to Everton so ETH never fancied him but ETH is giving game time to VDB which is mind boggling IMO.
I think Mejbri looks a great talent and I hope we piss Fred off in the summer and bring him in to the squad but obviously he needs to be a stand out performer for Birmingham for that to happen.

 

[croadyman]

Going to be an early bath again one way or another here.
Either sent off or hauled off yet again.

Needs to grow up and channel that energy, becoming to easy for opposition players to wind him up

Yeah it's reminiscent of the Anfield stuff

 

[Champ]

Birmingham were unlucky and should've got at least draw.

But this was a game between two teams with contrasting styles. Birmingham as usual went direct and utilised the counterpess to win the ball high up the pitch. And Sunderland stood off and looked to break on the counter by maintaining numbers in defence which opened up space for the second goal which Amad finished off superbly well.

The way Birmingham play there's no build up phase from the defensive to middle third. So instead they either look to go long with their keeper or one of their CBs looks for the wide receiver, which is normally one of the wingbacks who is high up the pitch waiting for the long diagonal ball. And when you approach games like that, Hannibal has to adapt and battle for the ball in a collective counter pressing approach.

I've watched most of Birmingham's games and it's been a effective approach which has yielded results. But it's a approach that requires the players to win the ball high up the pitch and to then quickly with a minimal amount of passes to get the ball into the box for a shot on goal. That doesn't really suit Hanninal as far as what he can offer on the ball, but I feel it's going to help him develop his off the ball pressing game which is important for any coach who looks to implement a proactive, attacking play style with pressing and counter pressing capabilities. And Birmingham City currently don't look to build play through the midfield, but they do look to press high and that I feel is only going to benefit Hannibal.

And under a coach like ten Hag, it's going to be extremely important to bring the intensity and pressing. And in that regard I feel he's coming along really well.

For Sundeland's second goal, Hannibal went to press the opponent and the Sunderland player evaded the pressure and played a brilliant ball to Amad who was in space to finish with aplomb. But that's something he will learn with more games and added experience. But I would honestly rather see him defend high up with a element of risk, rather than sit back and play on the counter, because Erik ten Hag won't want the players to do that in the way he wants to control the game, both on the ball and off the ball.

I'm am going to guess the bolded part is a slight lie, especially if you feel they play long balls and are claiming there's no build up play.

Birmingham do rely heavily on their wing backs, Longelo and Bacuna to get balls in the box from wide. Yet they certainly don't employ a long ball direct game and have actually played with some good passages of play this season so far.

Usually two of the three midfielders drop deep to receive the ball, last night this was Bellingham and Hannibal, but Chong has also been utilised in this position to great effect as well, as has Bacuna.
Birmingham dominated possession last night, which they don't often tend to do, mainly because they look to play on the counter quite often, especially away from home.

Personally I feel Hannibal will flourish with the way Birmingham play, a high intensity, all action press and relying on their midfielders to pick up the ball and also get into the box.

 

[Adnan]

I'm am going to guess the bolded part is a slight lie, especially if you feel they play long balls and are claiming there's no build up play.

Birmingham do rely heavily on their wing backs, Longelo and Bacuna to get balls in the box from wide. Yet they certainly don't employ a long ball direct game and have actually played with some good passages of play this season so far.

Usually two of the three midfielders drop deep to receive the ball, last night this was Bellingham and Hannibal, but Chong has also been utilised in this position to great effect as well, as has Bacuna.
Birmingham dominated possession last night, which they don't often tend to do, mainly because they look to play on the counter quite often, especially away from home.

Personally I feel Hannibal will flourish with the way Birmingham play, a high intensity, all action press and relying on their midfielders to pick up the ball and also get into the box.

I didn't say they play a long ball game, and I'm not sure why I would lie unless you yourself is having problems understanding what you're watching.


They play a direct high pressing game with a clear emphasis on getting the ball from A to B with a minimal amount of passes. And when that fails they utilise the counter press. Their build up play is either knockng it side to side before bypassing the midfield and getting into attacking third or John Ruddy goes direct.

The only team I've seen effectively impose their game against Birmingham, where there was a strategy to build play from the defensive to middle thirds, was Swansea City. And again that was a game between two teams with contrasting styles where Swansea looked to play their way through midfield and control possession and Birmingham took the vertical route and bypassed the midfield to counter press high up the pitch.

 

[Sea-Cow]

Like I said before, probably not best to take my words as gospel but I have seen quite a fair bit of in-game all touch compilations of both and pretty much all their game time here at Utd. Mejbri on an individual level (to me) has a better touch, ball carrying ability, sharper short passing range, physicality and desire. Garner may turn out to be the better player in the future because perhaps he may fit more stylistically in a team but my money is on Mejbri having more of an impact. Based on other's comments, i don't think it's a hot take tbh.

Its one I agree with, despite his poor performance last night. I hope Garner has a great career, but I think Mejbri can be something special.

 

[Mr PG]

Hannibal struggles with men's football because he lacks a bit of humility and plays like a superstar in midfield when in actuality he's not there yet. He needs a strict manager like ETH to keep his feet on the ground and proper coaching to keep it simple in midfield. Kobbie Mainoo for instance is younger than him as well as Zidane Iqbal and they've made our bench a few times now. Kobbie especially would do well in the first team if called upon and you'll never worry as he has a cool head.

 

[Scholsey2004]

United have never been known to do that, it was a footballing decision, he had been on a couple of loans and it was time to settle somewhere either here or elsewhere.
Clearly ETH wouldn't guarantee a prominent role i.e he didn't rate him all that hence he was sold.

I think you're right. Garner's not the type of player Eric Ten Hag wants at DM. In the past we've held onto players longer than is beneficial for either party. Hopefully we'll see more of this kind of decisiveness.

 

[footballbite]

A lot of huff and puff to little avail, and at times more of a liability.

When i made this comment a month or so ago about him sometimes being sometimes "more of a liability" a few posters here gave me pelters.

Since then he's been sent off in one live on Sky game for Birmingham, was generously not given a second yellow when he should have been in another televised Birmingham game, and now he's almost given away a penalty within minutes of coming on in the WC.

I think my comment has been pretty vindicated.

 

[Reapersoul20]

I thought his tackle when he came on was decent tbh, bit rash though which has always been his issue. Still, I wouldn't be singing yet.

 

[Santoryo]

When i made this comment a month or so ago about him sometimes being sometimes "more of a liability" a few posters here gave me pelters.

Since then he's been sent off in one live on Sky game for Birmingham, was generously not given a second yellow when he should have been in another televised Birmingham game, and now he's almost given away a penalty within minutes of coming on in the WC.

I think my comment has been pretty vindicated.

What a pathetic post.

 

[villain]

When i made this comment a month or so ago about him sometimes being sometimes "more of a liability" a few posters here gave me pelters.

Since then he's been sent off in one live on Sky game for Birmingham, was generously not given a second yellow when he should have been in another televised Birmingham game, and now he's almost given away a penalty within minutes of coming on in the WC.

I think my comment has been pretty vindicated.

Do you want a sticker

 

[Idxomer]

When i made this comment a month or so ago about him sometimes being sometimes "more of a liability" a few posters here gave me pelters.

Since then he's been sent off in one live on Sky game for Birmingham, was generously not given a second yellow when he should have been in another televised Birmingham game, and now he's almost given away a penalty within minutes of coming on in the WC.

I think my comment has been pretty vindicated.

No, he hasn't.