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“To be honest with you, I’ll give my absolute best wherever I’m played out on the pitch, whether that be at no.8 or no.6 or no.10 or even on the wing,” Hannibal told club media.
“I think I’ve got the qualities to play all of those positions.
“I just need to study each of them to make sure I tactically understand them, in particular without the ball and then when I have the ball I just have to play my own game and not feel any pressure.
You're never going to know how good a player is unless they're given a fair crack of the whip. Hannibal is the best player in the academy, if the best player in United's academy isn't "that good" then we're clearly doing something wrong.
Utilised again as a false #9, so not sure what people are expecting. He's not playing in midfield.
to be honest.
he is not even better than zidane, savage or garner as midfielder.
Which games have you seen Hannibal play as a midfielder?to be honest.
he is not even better than zidane, savage or garner as midfielder.
Tbh with you mate, his temperament hasn't been the issue in the minutes he's got thus far in preseason. He's being utilised too high up the pitch as a false #9 imo, and people who don't watch him play regularly are passing judgement on his abilities in the forward role he's being utilised in.He’s a good player but he needs help. Even as a youth I always thought his temperament would hold him back. If he could control that he will be able to get more playing time either with the first team or on loan. For me it’s his biggest, but perhaps only sticking point
Fair point. I wonder if the new coaches see a grealish type in him.Tbh with you mate, his temperament hasn't been the issue in the minutes he's got thus far in preseason. He's being utilised too high up the pitch as a false #9 imo, and people who don't watch him play regularly are passing judgement on his abilities in the forward role he's being utilised in.
And for me his performances thus far in preseason are of a creative midfielder being utilised way too high up the pitch as a false #9, especially when we don't have the ball.
I just hope if he does go on loan, then it's to a club where he's utilised in a deeper role as a central midfielder. Because that's the area of the pitch where he can showcase his abilities like dribbling, passing, vision and a high stamina/fitness level.
When he arrived from Monaco he was a player they utilised as a creative #8, who was also utilised to be the first port of call for the CBs to look for, to progress play in the build up phase. And in those games his passing ability and not his dribbling ability was mostly on show. And not once did I see him lose his temper on the pitch for Monaco. He came to United and it was Neil Ryan that changed his position and we started seeing less of his passing abilities and more of his dribbling abilities higher up the pitch. I personally didn't think that was a good move by Ryan, and along with many of his tactical mistakes, I'm glad he's now left the club.Fair point. I wonder if the new coaches see a grealish type in him.
personally I’ve always seen him as a deep player too. I wonder could he be utilised in the DeJong role.
ill still bark back to his temperament though he needs to get that under control. He’s only useful if he is still on the pitch not carded off
Do you think that with ETH talking about needing forwards that it may have been his “McTominay” moment like JoseWhen he arrived from Monaco he was a player they utilised as a creative #8, who was also utilised to be the first port of call for the CBs to look for, to progress play in the build up phase. And in those games his passing ability and not his dribbling ability was mostly on show. And not once did I see him lose his temper on the pitch for Monaco. He came to United and it was Neil Ryan that changed his position and we started seeing less of his passing abilities and more of his dribbling abilities higher up the pitch. I personally didn't think that was a good move by Ryan, and along with many of his tactical mistakes, I'm glad he's now left the club.
So the contrast between how he was being utilised at Monaco where he was being developed as a midfield metronome who didn't go around hunting for the ball and seemed to have a good temperament, to the player that came to United and worked with Neil Ryan was a big one. And those full matches of Hannibal at u17 level for Monaco are still on YouTube.
But having said that, I do agree he needs to keep his temper under control and I thought he did well, to do that several times in the game earlier where he walked away from confrontation. But he wasn't playing in midfield and was instead utilised as the most advanced forward. I don't expect him to stand out in such a role in the first team playing that role.
I honestly couldn't say for sure, but I think with the options he has at his disposal in the attacking midfield roles with Bruno, Eriksen etc, and with a midfield metronome being targeted to come in, he's possibly experimenting with Hannibal in a false #9 role.Do you think that with ETH talking about needing forwards that it may have been his “McTominay” moment like Jose
Spot on mate. I remember watching those Monaco highlights clips that you posted here on the Cafe and was thrilled we were getting a deep lying playmaker. Then when he arrived and showcased the dribbling skills, I thought fantastic this lad can do it all.When he arrived from Monaco he was a player they utilised as a creative #8, who was also utilised to be the first port of call for the CBs to look for, to progress play in the build up phase. And in those games his passing ability and not his dribbling ability was mostly on show. And not once did I see him lose his temper on the pitch for Monaco. He came to United and it was Neil Ryan that changed his position and we started seeing less of his passing abilities and more of his dribbling abilities higher up the pitch. I personally didn't think that was a good move by Ryan, and along with many of his tactical mistakes, I'm glad he's now left the club.
So the contrast between how he was being utilised at Monaco where he was being developed as a midfield metronome who didn't go around hunting for the ball and seemed to have a good temperament, to the player that came to United and worked with Neil Ryan was a big one. And those full matches of Hannibal at u17 level for Monaco are still on YouTube.
But having said that, I do agree he needs to keep his temper under control and I thought he did well, to do that several times in the game earlier where he walked away from confrontation. But he wasn't playing in midfield and was instead utilised as the most advanced forward. I don't expect him to stand out in such a role in the first team playing that role.
He needs games in midfield and i'm just hoping if he does end up at a championship club on a loan, he is utilised in midfield by the head coach. And it's important who the head coach is and how he wants his team to play.Spot on mate. I remember watching those Monaco highlights clips that you posted here on the Cafe and was thrilled we were getting a deep lying playmaker. Then when he arrived and showcased the dribbling skills, I thought fantastic this lad can do it all.
His lack of appearances and utilisation so high up the pitch has been the biggest disappointment so far for me in this pre-season. I was hoping when ETH was referring to in-house solutions to not getting De Jong it would be Hannibal earmarked for the role.
I feel we have not developed Hannibal, Amad and Pellestri as well as we should have so far early in their careers.
Tricky balance this one. I’d hoped he’d be ready for a squad role but if he’ll barely play, then 40 odd games on loan in a competitive league will be far more beneficial for him.
Difficult to see which of the younger players will be kept around next season. Iqbal maybe.
Why?We're going to ruin him aren't we.
