Hakim Ziyech

There were some rumblings that Roman is scaling back a bit and Frank was disappointed with what was available in January.
Considering he can't even get a visa to be in the country anymore i'm not surprised.
 
There were some rumblings that Roman is scaling back a bit and Frank was disappointed with what was available in January.
it's nonsense. There was a substantial amount of money there to spend, should we have found the right players. I think that was clear. After 2 weeks or so there was talk we were focusing on the summer, aswell. Abramovich put 250m into the club last season. A quarter of a billion. Talk of him losing interest is rubbish

It's more a case of him not needing to bankroll signings as much anymore, we are much more toward spending what we make now. With what we made in the summer (170m ish), and the ban (plus Kovacic signing) we have 140m sitting there, give or take, Morata's fee comes to us this summer aswell, roughly 50m.

I think the squad needs a fair old rebuild, 4 or 5 out and same in. So this summer i think we may just see Roman open his wallet once or twice.
 
Bugger. Sancho will cost £100m more than Ziyech and there's no guarantee Sancho will come to us. We should've been looking at Ziyech as an alternative. Risk free signing.
 
I think it's most likely that the club would've had to put down almost our entire transfer budget to sign Sancho. Instead, with Ziyech at only £40m we can address other areas with top quality as well.
 
If true. I’m sure it’ll be a good signing especially for the price. If we didn’t go for sancho I wanted us to push for him.

least it’ll mean on less taker for Sancho.

United need to take note of this and look to do business in advanced. Makes life so much easier.
 
How the hell are they getting him so cheap? £38m. If we came in, Ajax would probably treble the price!!
 
How the hell are they getting him so cheap? £38m. If we came in, Ajax would probably treble the price!!
Does seem a bit ridiculous but I think he will have a release clause. It seems that teams found him "too risky" and he didn't match up well on the data charts - similarly to Bruno Fernandes I guess.
 
Gutted we have missed out on this. We need a player of his ilk desperately and at that price it is a steal.
 
Does seem a bit ridiculous but I think he will have a release clause. It seems that teams found him "too risky" and he didn't match up well on the data charts - similarly to Bruno Fernandes I guess.
If Bruno's deal in total reaches nearly £80m in add-ons, its actually crazy Chelsea are getting a quality player for only £38m, risky or not that's an absolute steal. We paid upto double this for absolute garbage players in the last 7 years.
 
How the hell are they getting him so cheap? £38m. If we came in, Ajax would probably treble the price!!
No, it's not because of a clause. Ajax does this more often. When a player gets the chance to sign for another club, Ajax will up their contract with the promise not to play hardball the year after that. And they keep that promise.
 
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Does seem a bit ridiculous but I think he will have a release clause. It seems that teams found him "too risky" and he didn't match up well on the data charts - similarly to Bruno Fernandes I guess.
Reports say his release clause was removed in summer contract renegotiation
If Bruno's deal in total reaches nearly £80m in add-ons, its actually crazy Chelsea are getting a quality player for only £38m, risky or not that's an absolute steal. We paid upto double this for absolute garbage players in the last 7 years.
Press will probably use max (with add one) figure for United buys like they continue to do for Pogba (and Fernandes' is unlikely to be reached) while using base fees for other clubs.

It's almost like they have some agenda v us/£
 
No, it's not because of a clause. Ajax does this more often. When a player gets the chance to sign for another club, Ajax will up their contract with the promise not to play hardball the year after that. And they keep that promise.
That's very ethical if true, probably the only club in Europe who would do that.
 
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I'd take him in a heartbeat for this team. James, JLingz, Mata aren't going to perform any better out wide than this guy, no matter how badly he flops.


Also did you not see his CL performances last season ? He was brilliant.
 
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Why do you say that? he's not the type that chirks away from challenges or is lazy at all.
 
Reports say his release clause was removed in summer contract renegotiation

Press will probably use max (with add one) figure for United buys like they continue to do for Pogba (and Fernandes' is unlikely to be reached) while using base fees for other clubs.

It's almost like they have some agenda v us/£
This is true, the media like to exaggerate or include add-on clauses as the base price for Utd's signings. Barely saw any reports on Bruno's deal being €55m, all rambling on about the add-ons and the deal being £80m. Everyone else, it seems to be the complete opposite. Also seems like every team in Europe feel like they can take Ed for more of a ride than other CEO's/DoF's.
 
I can't say I'm particularly frothing at the mouth with rage to be missing out on him. I think he'll do alright, but he's nothing revolutionary that'll make a huge difference to Chelsea. Alright price though.
 
I would have liked him for us, but it allows us free reign over Sancho in the summer.
I don't think we've given up on Sancho completely atall. Given Zyiech's versatility he could be our RW if we fail to get Jadon or drift into the centre of midfield if we do, eases the pressure to sign Sancho a little.
 
Great buy at a bargain price! We should have been all over this. But like many have said, if this means we get Sancho, it won't hurt as much as missing out on Haaland. Never mind we'll be paying 3 times what Ziyech has cost.
 
£38m really is a joke when you consider we've paid £130m on Maguire and AWB. Charge us English tax & United tax. Feck these cnuts.
 
£38m really is a joke when you consider we've paid £130m on Maguire and AWB. Charge us English tax & United tax. Feck these cnuts.
Although De Ligt and De Jong went for shit loads you'll more likely find more reasonable prices in weaker leagues.

PL clubs simply have no serious need to sell these days so if you want their talent you're simply going to have to pay up or leave them alone.
 
Disappointed. Was really hoping to see him in our colours.

We don't believe in right wingers anymore. Bring on the next left winger I guess. To the Sancho thread. All or nothing
 
The most admirable part about this is that they've seemingly sealed a deal for summer transfer window in February! Meanwhile we will low-ball BVB all summer then pretty much wait till deadline day to may or may not get Sancho.
 
The most admirable part about this is that they've seemingly sealed a deal for summer transfer window in February! Meanwhile we will low-ball BVB all summer then pretty much wait till deadline day to may or may not get Sancho.

It really is incredible that Chelsea move so quick in comparison to other teams.
 
It really is incredible that Chelsea move so quick in comparison to other teams.

Chelsea have a great structure at the club level. They have been consistently in title race for last two decades for a reason. Posters here like to simplify it to either "oil-money" or "corruption" but their transfer dealings in or out are always on point. They've spent lesser money on Ziyech in 2020 than they received for Oscar in 2016...
 
Great signing for Chelsea as he looks class for Ajax

If we get Sancho though I'll take them getting him
 
I don't think we've given up on Sancho completely atall. Given Zyiech's versatility he could be our RW if we fail to get Jadon or drift into the centre of midfield if we do, eases the pressure to sign Sancho a little.
It's similar to us when talking about Grealish or Maddision. Honestly, I'm a bit tired of having or seeing players who are only comfortable playing one specific position in one specific formation on these teams. In the past, you could make the argument that Beckham and Pires were attacking midfielders, but they were willing and talented to play on the flanks to help their teams, Pires even played on the right sometimes and it did not affect his ability to perform.
 
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This has massive potential to backfire. He looks like a guy that will flop considering his age and experience in top level football, but if you look at Mahrez...

i would be shocked if he wouldn't end up being decent at least, especially the price. I think he will be pretty good, unless injuries happen.
 
Bugger. Sancho will cost £100m more than Ziyech and there's no guarantee Sancho will come to us. We should've been looking at Ziyech as an alternative. Risk free signing.

You can argue that we already did this by signing Bruno. The big question nows now are: how much will we get from Pogba? What position do we prioritize the most? Will we sell Martial? and What Formation and players do we sign to get the best out of Ole's vision?

Sometimes you need to have the players assembled before a formation and ingame strategy can be built.