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That was idiotic to say the least and I apologise, it was deleted immeadiately.Quite the turnaround from your opening gambit on this topic.
That was idiotic to say the least and I apologise, it was deleted immeadiately.Quite the turnaround from your opening gambit on this topic.
Apparently this image led folks to believe him to be a (professing) Muslim...
Which is an interesting sociological question in and of itself
That says alot about you. Why feel the need to disrespect someone with different beliefs? Absolutely childish.I'll disrespect who I like.
For all we know @langster that could be Common!
That was idiotic to say the least and I apologise, it was deleted immeadiately.
Eh? What have I said or done, I haven't even posted in this thread. Only just got online.
But I think we disagree that Islam is unique in this refusal to compromise. It's like the Pope said the other day and I am paraphrasing here; "the concept of conquest is a cornerstone of religion". Religion has always encourages or at least did not have a big problem with the idea of conquering and converting others because "they" were the ones with the right message. I mean the Christian went all over the world doing pretty much the same thing for a very long time. Part of this is that religions came at a time when conquest in general was not the horrible thing it is considered today. It was entirely normal to go out, invade another place, take everything they had and submit them to the conqueror's law. This is why religions can seem indifferent to those things. Extremists choose to take this as a sign that it is encourages, non-extremists desperately point to it being not part of their belief. The problem is therefore, do we have an environment that encourages the rise of extremists? History tells us that being disenfranchised usually does create such environment and said extremists will never be short of material they can interpret in the worse way possible.You're both talking a lot of sense but there's a unique challenge in facing down a violent ideology which promises martyrdom and rewards in the afterlife to anyone who loses their life fighting what is perceived as a holy war. Obviously it's a perversion of what the religion means to the vast majority of people who share the same faith but the problem is deeper and more complex than disenfranchised people trying to even the playing field. The nature of their ideology means compromise is out of the question. How do you try and reason with that sort of extremism?
Yes I do to be fair...You need to start thinking before you push the post reply button.
That says alot about you. Why feel the need to disrespect someone with different beliefs? Absolutely childish.
how many are killed every year? There must be stats somewhere considering you think that it's a noble act in Islam to slaughter these people, the authorities would obviously keep a tally.Okay, to address the point..
What happens to gays and apostates in the Islamic world? I'll give you a clue...it doesn't end well for them. Now if you're a gay apostate, you have no chance.
Am I supposed to jump to conclusions about this guy too then?For Christ's sake, are we really going to go down this route? People pretending not to have made a speculatively judgement on account of how unbigoted they are as part of an attempt to seek external validation...it's bizarre.
There is a difference between what a politician is to me or you and what Muhammad is to a Muslim.If that is your position, then don't say a bad word about anyone ever. That politician you think is a prick....please don't 'disrespect' him on account of his followers having a different opinion to you. Right?
Awful to see photographs of MP Tobias Ellwood dazed with despair and exhaustion. You did your best, Mr Ellwood; all credit to you, sir.
how many are killed every year? There must be stats somewhere considering you think that it's a noble act in Islam to slaughter these people, the authorities would obviously keep a tally.
Looks dodgy to me
But you wouldn't do that, no-one in their right mind would. It's called being respectful of other cultures.Funnily enough, apostasy and homosexuality are extremely uncommon in countries that have made such acts punishable by death. Ask yourself honestly, what do you think would happen to you if you walked down the street in rural Pakistan or Saudi Arabia wearing a 'there is no God' t shirt and singing a song in the local language about bumming blokes. How many minutes do you think you would last?
That was idiotic to say the least and I apologise, it was deleted immeadiately.
If you're into logical fallacies, then sure.The act is enough to make a decent speculative judgement, given recent history.
They wrongly fingered that guy in jail as the perp, as did others.Why what did they say/do?
He's brown, so that's proof enough for many.Is there any proof yet that the attacker was a Muslim? If there isn't...why the derailment?
But you wouldn't do that, no-one in their right mind would. It's called being respectful of other cultures.
As do/have IFunnily enough, I have had the same beard and a lot of smiles from mature women.
The Koran will probably get banned at some point in the future anyway but as you know that still leaves the oral copy through Hafiz but yeah it will get banned anyway.
If you're into logical fallacies, then sure.
He's brown, so that's proof enough for many.
Is that the follow-up to 'Music to watch girls by'?singing a song in the local language about bumming blokes
Indeed. I wonder if a friendly mod had a quiet word?Quite the turnaround from your opening gambit on this topic.
You're still on the fallacies mateThe attacker is just as likely to be a Mormon, right?
As do/have I
One of the better things about balding was realizing that bald with a nice beard is apparently attractive to the ladies
A gay student at Rutgers was bullied into suicide a few years ago.Are people really going to start arguing that being openly gay or openly committing apostasy in countries like Pakistan will not eventually lead to being the victim of violence or death?
I'm fecking out of here.
Good point but when you hear the sound of hooves it's more likely to be horses than zebras. All available evidence points towards this being another Nice/Berlin atrocity. I'd be amazed if it turns out any different.
Now you mention it, I've never met a non-white mormon.The attacker is just as likely to be a Mormon, right?
Oh yeah, I know he was sentenced to 2 years back in January last year. It's confirmed then that he is definitely not out and involved? Hopefully so, as that would be a huge blow for public confidence in the justice/intelligence system.They wrongly fingered that guy in jail as the perp, as did others.
Is there any proof yet that the attacker was a Muslim? If there isn't...why the derailment?
Indeed. I wonder if a friendly mod had a quiet word?