Its a very common beat for a pop song.
Guitarist Satriani sues Coldplay
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Its a very common beat for a pop song.
No its not. Alot of people dislike Ronaldo simply because he plays for united. I don't like Cesc Fabregas. but I can appreciate that he is an amazing footballer.
No I'm not saying that. I was just uising the sales to back up my point. Take dillinger Escape Plan. They are extremely talented musicians and in there genre they are at the top of their game. I don't like them. But I can appreciate what they do, and why some people do like them.
Funny he's decided to sue after so long. The albums been out for months.
Perhaps they waited till after the grammy noms. A grammy winning/nominated song would certainly win them more cash.
Perhaps they waited till after the grammy noms. A grammy winning/nominated song would certainly win them more cash.
Or he only just heard it.
This. Not exactly f*cking Stravinsky is it? Da di daaa, daaa di daaa di daaa daaa. Jeez.
Satriani's name happens to be all over the music press now...which, call me cynical, may have just been the point.
Well, my post was rather strange. Fortunately I am able to blame it on intoxication. But my point was supposed to be (I think) that you can't compare football and music in this way. Football has clearly defined criteria you can judge a player's performance by, but there's no such thing in music.
I see what you mean. I'm just being a bastard here because this is a favourite subject of mine. What I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to say a song is good if you don't actually like it, because if you define "good" by any other terms than your own taste, you'll get tangled up in a web of amusing contradictions and/or find yourself arguing for opinions you don't actually hold.
This is of course not much of a problem until you run into some twat with a natural inclination to pursue any statement about music to the utmost extent of its implications.
I'd consider the different genre's of music as very seperate criteria.
I'm an argumentative little shite, with a love of music aswell.
I'm an argumentative little shite, with a love of music aswell.
Its about time Coldplay got some bad press. Great news. First time iv read some about them from the press. Lets keep the ball rolling.
i wonder how many punk bands have been sued by that dude what wrote pacobels canon?
I had never heard of Satriani before this. I have now heard a hell of a lot about him and even listened to a few of his songs....
Hopefully satch wins. Coldplay sucks balls.
it gets better - looks like Coldplay robbed Satriani's riff and the melody from some unknown New York band called the Creaky Boards
Although to be honest - this bunch of no hopers are just taking the piss for a bit of free publicity - there is a passing similarity but many songs sound like this
Although to be honest - this bunch of no hopers are just taking the piss for a bit of free publicity - there is a passing similarity but many songs sound like this
To some extent
ripped off
ripped off
I'm not sure about this. One gets as easily tangled in webs of contradiction when trying to fit what one considers as good with what one likes.
That is probably a problem about which words to use though. 'Good' is a confusing word because it is used about facts as often as about opinions. It is good for humans not be shot in the head, it is good for foxes not to be hunted by conservative clowns, and it is good for cars to have well-functioning brakes. When we talk like this the word is used in an objective manner, and one can reasonably say that the car is fine if it can drive from x to y, but one can still have other preferences - maybe to prefer the car to break down so that one has to use the bicycle instead. So it is good for the car to function as it should but it is good for me for it to not work as it should.
I still think you're more or less right. 'Good' is a confusing word, but music is an even more confusing topic, because we don't have proper standards to judge it by. There may be (many) standards (relative to genre, culture, epoch etc) but probably not just one. But I have certainly never seen a remotely convincing argument for the claim that popularity is a reasonable standard.
Coldplay suck ALL the cock, they are a terrible band who need to stop their gay shit, especially writing stuff on their hands, naming their children daft names and dancing whilst singing, it's incorrect....
Oasis are the biggest riff rip-offs in musical history, have a go at this;
The guitar intro to Get It On by T-Rex
Then check out the intro to Cigarettes & Alcohol by Oasis
then,
the piano intro to Imagine by John Lennon
Then check out the speeded up same intro to Don't Look Back in Anger by Oasis
The guitar intro to Get It On by T-Rex
Then check out the intro to Cigarettes & Alcohol by Oasis
then,
the piano intro to Imagine by John Lennon
Then check out the speeded up same intro to Don't Look Back in Anger by Oasis
Wow, that was blatant and shameless. Never knew of this. (But then I've never bothered with Oasis.) Marc Bolan is one of the very greatest British musicians.
To be fair, Noel Gallagher openly stated he ripped off these riffs years ago but it doesn't make it any less of a cnut's trick!
I was into Bolan when I was a kid, my dad's mate gave me The Slider album, original 1972 vinyl with the cover photos done by Ringo Starr, be worth a few quid that in years to come...
Joe's Surfing With The Alien might be one of the greatest records to snowboard too. Brilliant stuff. Pick up the anthology a while back and that's top notch also.
Ripping off earlier music and then using it in a slightly different way is how nearly all pop music works. It doesn't mean the new music can't be good though.
I mean Led Zeppelin were effectively a covers band. That didn't stop them being a very very good covers band though. Or getting sued, and losing, over and over again for plagiarism.
I mean Led Zeppelin were effectively a covers band. That didn't stop them being a very very good covers band though. Or getting sued, and losing, over and over again for plagiarism.
AWEsome!
Always knew you had great taste, MuM.
everyone of them takes 'influence' from another band. Suing is hypocritical
'If I could fly' is from 2004, 'Frances Limon' from 2002. Shite songs but proof positive that Satch is a tool.
Suing is (usually) silly, but not hypocritical. There's surely a big difference between being influenced by someone and copying their riffs. However, there's also a difference between taking someone else's song and altering them slightly, and putting quotations into a work of your own.