Guess our lineup for the first match next season

Tbh I really wouldn't blame Ten Hag and Rangnick going for players they know and can 100% trust, in other words players that are good, committed and with the right mental characteristics to be able to help steady the ship the first year while management iron out the troublemakers. I wouldn't blame them with the playing it safe route given our track record.
 
Sarni said:
De Gea
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
McTominay Fred
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

We will have two new players on the bench but will ease them into the squad slowly.
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Wow you haven't much belief of first XI signings
 
Jezpeza said:
De Gea

AWB Varane Timber Shaw

Kamara Donny Fernandes

Sancho Nunez/Nkunku Rashford

think it will be a lot less busy than many hope. Hell of a lot of players leaving. Think lots of youth players will join the squad - bernard garner levitt and mengi have had decent loans. Diallo and Pellestri probably be backup wingers. Donny will be like a new signing.

We’ll be making do for a while i think we will focus on the spine of the team first rather than wingbacks etc.

i think/hope the likes of Rashford, Shaw, Bruno and Maguire will return to form.
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Sensible move because need to sort out that spine as has been weak for years
 
Sarni said:
De Gea
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
McTominay Fred
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

We will have two new players on the bench but will ease them into the squad slowly.
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The meltdown on here if that's our line-up next season
 
De Gea

New RB - Varane - new CB - Shaw

New DM

new CM - Bruno

Anthony-Nkunku-Sancho

6 new players for the starting XI. Might be optimistic.

I'd really love that front 3 though.
 
DDG
new RB Timber Varane Shaw
Tchouameni Kamara
Antony Bruno/VDB Sancho
Ronaldo/Nkunku​

Ten Haag may prefer team player (who fits his system) more than individual, so don’t be surprise he may have VDB starting over Bruno at some point of the season.

Regarding double DM, he has been saying in the past if playing in PL, will need more players playing with intensity in the middle of the park more than in any other league (something along that line) so I am guessing he would persist with double DM formation.
 
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DDG

Dest (or RB of ETH's choosing)
Varane
Torres
Shaw

Fred
VDB
Bruno

Antony
Ronaldo
Sancho
 
—————Ddg
Dalot Varane Torres Teles
————- Rice
————VdB Bruno
Anthony —David——Sancho
 
mancsarered said:
DDG

Dest (or RB of ETH's choosing)
Varane
Torres
Shaw

Fred
VDB
Bruno

Antony
Ronaldo
Sancho
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This looks about right to me but add a DM and only one of Fred or VDB starts, they make sense as a platoon anyways since one can defend and one can attack. Tchouameni I fear will go to Chelsea, so not sure who to name.
 
RedRonaldo said:
DDG
new RB Timber Varane Shaw
Tchouameni Kamara
Antony Bruno/VDB Sancho
Ronaldo/Nkunku​

Ten Haag may prefer team player (who fits his system) more than individual, so don’t be surprise he may have VDB starting over Bruno at some point of the season.

Regarding double DM, he has been saying in the past if playing in PL, will need more players playing with intensity in the middle of the park more than in any other league (something along that line) so I am guessing he would persist with double DM formation.
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Ill take one these thank you very much!
 
croadyman said:
Wow you haven't much belief of first XI signings
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I don’t. We seem to try and ease in any new players anyway, and I don’t trust this club at all when it comes to doing business in the transfer market.
 
I think there will be a few shocks, ones we won’t expect, there just isn’t enough noise around anyone at the moment. Feels like the first time In years we don’t actually know anyone we’re after as concrete
 
Sarni said:
I don’t. We seem to try and ease in any new players anyway, and I don’t trust this club at all when it comes to doing business in the transfer market.
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Surely any benefit of easing new players into this team is lost when the team is a smouldering pile of garbage. We could sign 6 new players, throw the all into the team and lose nothing, because we have nothing resembling a functional team to begin with
 
Predicting an injury crisis to start the season. Sancho at RB
 
De Gea
AWB - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
McT - Jones
Mata - Bruno - Lingard
Rashford
 
DDG

AWB
Varane
Kounde
Shaw

Rice
VDB
Bruno


Jadon
Tadic
Ronaldo

If not, let try and get Kane, esp. if we don't get Tadic and Ronaldo doesn''t stay. Also I like Dest as a possible signing. I'd keep both Martial and Rash. Lingard is as good as gone. Nunez, Neves...? I have no idea... I am just guessing, because I am basically left speechless.
 
Rashford Ronaldo Sancho
Bruno Bissouma Fred
Shaw Varane Bailly Dalot
De Gea

Crashoutcassius said:
very funny to think timber is better than maguire under a competent manager
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Yeah, a competent manager would make Maguire turn faster than an oil tanker and be less of a clown with the ball under pressure.
 
Is this the thread where we look at all the players that the media link with Utd and we pick the best ones and put them in a team formation??
What a fecking waste of time!
 
What I’d like

De Gea

Laird (I think he could be a big winner in pre-season)
Varane
Torres or Bastoni
Shaw

Tchouameni
Tielemans

Antony
Bruno
Sancho

Nkunku
 
De Gea

AWB - Lindelof - Varane - Telles

Rice - Gravenberch - McTom

Sancho - Ronaldo - McNeil
 
Crashoutcassius said:
very funny to think timber is better than maguire under a competent manager
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With the style Ten Hag uses Timber works much better than a Maguire would. Maguires passing often puts his team mates under alot of pressure, which alone would ruin any chance of us playing Ten Hags system.
Under Ten hag the ball is carried forward by constant passing in triangles. The accuracy and pace of the passes is vital for it to work. Players like Maguire and AwB simply cannot perform that style of play.
 
———————— De Gea ———————

Timber — Varane — Maguire — Shaw

———— Neves —— Tielemans ————

Sancho ——— Bruno ——— Rashford

——————— Nunez ————————
 
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——————Haaland
Sancho——Bruno——Mbappe
————Modric—Rice
Theo-Skriniar-Varane-Mazraoui
——————Martinez
 
Lyng said:
With the style Ten Hag uses Timber works much better than a Maguire would. Maguires passing often puts his team mates under alot of pressure, which alone would ruin any chance of us playing Ten Hags system.
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that is because he isn't playing under a competent manager. maguire is excellent on the ball. people have been fooled by how bad the team has been
 
VanDeBank said:
Yeah, a competent manager would make Maguire turn faster than an oil tanker and be less of a clown with the ball under pressure.
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daley blind is slow and plays under ETH so clearly not a requirement. maguire has struggled on the ball since ralf took over because he has no options and the coaching is so bad. under ole he was better and we know ole still isn't a good coach. pep wanted him for his ability on the ball. he is surprise the parrots on here who just say he is bad over and over until it is a truth in their mind
 
Knowing us it will be the same as this season but having spent the entire budget on Rice.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
that is because he isn't playing under a competent manager. maguire is excellent on the ball. people have been fooled by how bad the team has been
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That simply is not true. His passing has always been dodgy for us. It has just been much more pronounced and exposed when we have tried to play more progressive.
 
Lyng said:
That simply is not true. His passing has always been dodgy for us. It has just been much more pronounced and exposed when we have tried to play more progressive.
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we will see. i think pep wanted him for a reason and i have seen that many times in maguire even under ole in a chaotic system. he should really shine under a good manager. his long passing in particular is excellent
 
---------------- Henderson----------------
Dalot -- Lindelof -- Varane -- Telles
----------Tchouaméni -- Rice -----------
Antony -- Fernandes -- Sancho
---------------- Ronaldo ----------------
 
Crashoutcassius said:
we will see. i think pep wanted him for a reason and i have seen that many times in maguire even under ole in a chaotic system. he should really shine under a good manager. his long passing in particular is excellent
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I dont think Pep would want him now though.
Maguire was good when Ole played a more defensive system with a very straight forward counterattack system. As soon as Ole tried to change that system it went bad.
I believe this is why Maguire works so well for the national team as well.
Ten Hag's system requires much more fluid movement and passing which, I believe, is something Maguire will struggle to do.
 
I haven't seen a single credible link to any player yet so it's anyone's guess who we'll sign. I think Rice is the club's current obsession though, even though I don't think he's a Ten Hag player.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
daley blind is slow and plays under ETH so clearly not a requirement. maguire has struggled on the ball since ralf took over because he has no options and the coaching is so bad. under ole he was better and we know ole still isn't a good coach. pep wanted him for his ability on the ball. he is surprise the parrots on here who just say he is bad over and over until it is a truth in their mind
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Blind plays LB and doesn't turn slowly. His top speed is slow. ETH's starting CBs are 2 fast, mobile midgets.

Blind's also brilliant in the buildup and a great passer of the ball.

Maguire's always been a bit of an idiot on the ball, ever since we signed him. (hadn't watched him prior).
 
Lyng said:
I dont think Pep would want him now though.
Maguire was good when Ole played a more defensive system with a very straight forward counterattack system. As soon as Ole tried to change that system it went bad.
I believe this is why Maguire works so well for the national team as well.
Ten Hag's system requires much more fluid movement and passing which, I believe, is something Maguire will struggle to do.
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From the below article a few facts about his 2019/2020 season under ole. imagine what he will do under a competent manager... at least warrants another opportunity.

most progressive runs for a cb (105)
most yards carried for a cb (8400)
most key passes for a cb (17)
2nd in total passes for a cb, 3rd in accurate long balls for a cb

he is calm on the ball, progresses the ball, passes the ball. a complete ball playing cb

If ETH can't coach the team to press well enough to protect the defence then it won't matter who is centre back since we will often be leaving 2 defenders back. If its lindelof (far worse in duals and in the air than maguire) or varane it won't matter. if its fecking timber it wont matter. that is point of pressing, not just to win the ball back high, but to protect your out of position defence by not letting the opposition get their head up and pass. it is where ralf has failed so badly in the 5-6 months he has been here

https://breakingthelines.com/player...ly is Maguire adept,rd in accurate long balls
 
VanDeBank said:
Blind plays LB and doesn't turn slowly. His top speed is slow. ETH's starting CBs are 2 fast, mobile midgets.

Blind's also brilliant in the buildup and a great passer of the ball.

Maguire's always been a bit of an idiot on the ball, ever since we signed him. (hadn't watched him prior).
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see my other posts with facts showing what you are saying isn't true instead of just the popular thing to say
 
Crashoutcassius said:
From the below article a few facts about his 2019/2020 season under ole. imagine what he will do under a competent manager... at least warrants another opportunity.

most progressive runs for a cb (105)
most yards carried for a cb (8400)
most key passes for a cb (17)
2nd in total passes for a cb, 3rd in accurate long balls for a cb

he is calm on the ball, progresses the ball, passes the ball. a complete ball playing cb

If ETH can't coach the team to press well enough to protect the defence then it won't matter who is centre back since we will often be leaving 2 defenders back. If its lindelof (far worse in duals and in the air than maguire) or varane it won't matter. if its fecking timber it wont matter. that is point of pressing, not just to win the ball back high, but to protect your out of position defence by not letting the opposition get their head up and pass. it is where ralf has failed so badly in the 5-6 months he has been here

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/an-analytical-look-at-harry-maguire/#:~:text=Not only is Maguire adept,rd in accurate long balls
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Well that just proves my point. He works in a very straight forward setup. The passing required for him under Ole was always straight forward.
Stats also really dont show the whole picture with specifically Maguire. His passing completion percentage is quite good, the issue is the passes are often either way to soft, hard or misplaced which puts his teammates under a ton of unnecessary pressure.
A good example is the 4th goal Liverpool got. His pass to Majbri was woeful, but it was technically successful.
 
This gets asked every April/May

But have we ever started the first game of a new season with a new player playing? Not to my memory.
 
Sarni said:
De Gea
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
McTominay Fred
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

We will have two new players on the bench but will ease them into the squad slowly.
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DeGea
Dalot maguire Varane Shaw
McTominay Fred VdB
Sancho Elanga
Martial
 
VanDeBank said:
Blind plays LB and doesn't turn slowly. His top speed is slow. ETH's starting CBs are 2 fast, mobile midgets.

Blind's also brilliant in the buildup and a great passer of the ball.

Maguire's always been a bit of an idiot on the ball, ever since we signed him. (hadn't watched him prior).
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blind played cb in prior seasons
 
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