Guess Erik's starting 11 next season

DDG

Timber
Varane
Torres

de Jong
Garner
Bruno

Sancho
Ronaldo
Anthony
 
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DDG

Timber
Varane
Torres
Fernandez

de Jong
Garner
Bruno

Sancho
Ronaldo
Anthony
 
DDG

Shaw/?
Maguire
Varane
Timber

Fred
Fernandes
De Jong

Sancho
Ronaldo
Antony
 
I don't understand how so many people can still have Bruno playing in the midfield. He is not a midfielder. Play him on the wing or don't play him at all...
 
Henderson

Dalot Maguire Varane Shaw

De Jong Fred

Antony Sancho Bruno

Ronaldo
 
De Gea

Dalot Torres Varane Telles

Frenkie Fred

Elanga Bruno Sancho

Ronaldo
 
First game of the season:

De Gea

Dalot Maguire Lindelof Shaw

McTominay Fred

Sancho Bruno Rashford

Ronaldo
 
I genuinely think this is probably it tbh:

De Gea

Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw

Fred FDJ

Antony Fernandes Sancho

Ronaldo
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New signings: Frenkie De Jong, Antony, Jurien Timber
 
DDG
Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw
Mctom/Fred FDJ
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo

Timber/Torres too if we are lucky.
 
I'm guessing it's going to be a very poor one.

Honestly considering we've lost Pogba and Greenwood we will probably have a worse team than last season. Club just isn't serious at all
 
laughtersassassin said:
I'm guessing it's going to be a very poor one.

Honestly considering we've lost Pogba and Greenwood we will probably have a worse team than last season. Club just isn't serious at all
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I agree, they're almost not trying to hide it at this stage. Share price is at an all time low and the owners response is to tighten pure strings and gamble on a miracle happening.

We also desperately need a DM as we havent addressed it since signing Matic.
 
laughtersassassin said:
I'm guessing it's going to be a very poor one.

Honestly considering we've lost Pogba and Greenwood we will probably have a worse team than last season. Club just isn't serious at all
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You are wrong. The club are working behind the Scenes to bring in players for ETH and it will happen. It’s day 5 into the transfer window. There’s international football ongoing. Give it a minute and relax.
 
ForeverRed1 said:
You are wrong. The club are working behind the Scenes to bring in players for ETH and it will happen. It’s day 5 into the transfer window. There’s international football ongoing. Give it a minute and relax.
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Where exactly is the optimism coming from? Would love to share your view, but I'm sorry I can't.
 
ForeverRed1 said:
You are wrong. The club are working behind the Scenes to bring in players for ETH and it will happen. It’s day 5 into the transfer window. There’s international football ongoing. Give it a minute and relax.
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Well if we don't sign 2 starting Midfielders the season will be over before it starts to be fair
 
ForeverRed1 said:
You are wrong. The club are working behind the Scenes to bring in players for ETH and it will happen. It’s day 5 into the transfer window. There’s international football ongoing. Give it a minute and relax.
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Honestly would love to have this optimism.

We've had a decade of a shit show at this point in terms of player recruitment and everything involved in that, from scouting, transfer negotiations and then developing said investments.

City get Haaland, Pool get Nunez... meanwhile were linked with Danny Feckin Ings!
 
MUFC OK said:
Where exactly is the optimism coming from? Would love to share your view, but I'm sorry I can't.
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I get it. But at the same time, this club has hit its lowest eb.. shares are down, fans are protesting, we’re losing games, losing champions league.. lowest points total since PL era... no fight for the shirt... more talk than ever than the state of the club, the ground, the facilities.

already we have a forward thinking, progressive manager who made conditions to come here.. he has bought in his team. Woodward is gone, we have a new CEO who doesn’t want to make footballing decisions. he wants footballing people to make football decisions. We have lost a large majority of the staff that were here last season and got new people in. Qualified people.

Matic, pogba, lingard, mata, Cavani, grant.. all gone already. We’re 5 days into the transfer window.

The glazers know more than ever we have to start getting it right. It isn’t FM.. it’s a tough market. ETH will focus on players that are realistic, probably players he knows. That’s why we will probably get the likes of FDJ, timber and Antony. They all know him and love him, will run through a brick wall for him.

ETH isn’t a stupid guy, he has laid his conditions. The club will work on it.

I actually feel more positive than I have in a whil, I really believe in this manager. I could be wrong. Not like we haven’t had false dawns before.. but he is different to anything we have had since fergie left.

believe. United has always had tough times and it’s ALWAYS bounced back. That’s the magic of this club. We will be back.
 
Keefy18 said:
Honestly would love to have this optimism.

We've had a decade of a shit show at this point in terms of player recruitment and everything involved in that, from scouting, transfer negotiations and then developing said investments.

City get Haaland, Pool get Nunez... meanwhile were linked with Danny Feckin Ings!
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see my post above:drool:
 
ForeverRed1 said:
I get it. But at the same time, this club has hit its lowest eb.. shares are down, fans are protesting, we’re losing games, losing champions league.. lowest points total since PL era... no fight for the shirt... more talk than ever than the state of the club, the ground, the facilities.

already we have a forward thinking, progressive manager who made conditions to come here.. he has bought in his team. Woodward is gone, we have a new CEO who doesn’t want to make footballing decisions. he wants footballing people to make football decisions. We have lost a large majority of the staff that were here last season and got new people in. Qualified people.

pogba, lingard, mata, Cavani, grant.. all gone already. We’re 5 days into the transfer window.

The glazers know more than ever we have to start getting it right. It isn’t FM.. it’s a tough market. ETH will focus on players that are realistic, probably players he knows. That’s why we will probably get the likes of FDJ, timber and Antony. They all know him and love him, will run through a brick wall for him.

ETH isn’t a stupid guy, he has laid his conditions. The club will work on it.

I actually feel more positive than I have in a whil, I really believe in this manager. I could be wrong. Not like we haven’t had false dawns before.. but he is different to anything we have had since fergie left.

believe. United has always had tough times and it’s ALWAYS bounced back. That’s the magic of this club.
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I get all of that, but we need new personnel on the pitch. ETH can probably get a better tune out of the current group but our pitfalls, especially in midfield but also defence and full backs, as well as needing a back up striker are too big of a problem to be overlooked.

Hypothetically, so what if the glazers promised ETH the world and fail to deliver on those assurances, like with LVG, Jose? He'll have to get on with it. I have no faith that we will substantially improve the squad before the season starts. Change in personnel behind the scenes is all we are getting.
 
ForeverRed1 said:
already we have a forward thinking, progressive manager who made conditions to come here..
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Similar stories were echoed for LVG, Jose and Ole... its all waffle.

LVG got cameras on the training ground, Jose had the training ground revamped... promises about scouting and transfers and war chests.

Give it 18 months - 2 years and the stories about ETH being unhappy will likely surface as targets are missed repeatedly.

It's rinse and repeat.
 
MUFC OK said:
I get all of that, but we need new personnel on the pitch. ETH can probably get a better tune out of the current group but our pitfalls, especially in midfield but also defence and full backs, as well as needing a back up striker are too big of a problem to be overlooked.

Hypothetically, so what if the glazers promised ETH the world and fail to deliver on those assurances? He'll have to get on with it. I have no faith that we will substantially improve the squad before the season starts.
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I genuinely think if things aren’t different very quick this fan base will turn very nasty. You saw it last season but it will intensify massively. Glazers always spend when they miss out on CL football because 2 seasons in a row, Adidas don’t pay them. I think we will bring a few new signings in this summer. We will see a few changes over the next couple of months. We have to sell some players too which I’m sure is being worked on.

We’re keeping very quiet, there isn’t much noise around us; which is a good thing, no one knows our business. The media have 0 clues.
 
ForeverRed1 said:
I get it. But at the same time, this club has hit its lowest eb.. shares are down, fans are protesting, we’re losing games, losing champions league.. lowest points total since PL era... no fight for the shirt... more talk than ever than the state of the club, the ground, the facilities.

already we have a forward thinking, progressive manager who made conditions to come here.. he has bought in his team. Woodward is gone, we have a new CEO who doesn’t want to make footballing decisions. he wants footballing people to make football decisions. We have lost a large majority of the staff that were here last season and got new people in. Qualified people.

Matic, pogba, lingard, mata, Cavani, grant.. all gone already. We’re 5 days into the transfer window.

The glazers know more than ever we have to start getting it right. It isn’t FM.. it’s a tough market. ETH will focus on players that are realistic, probably players he knows. That’s why we will probably get the likes of FDJ, timber and Antony. They all know him and love him, will run through a brick wall for him.

ETH isn’t a stupid guy, he has laid his conditions. The club will work on it.

I actually feel more positive than I have in a whil, I really believe in this manager. I could be wrong. Not like we haven’t had false dawns before.. but he is different to anything we have had since fergie left.

believe. United has always had tough times and it’s ALWAYS bounced back. That’s the magic of this club. We will be back.
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I love the optimism and I hope that we can all be right there with you soon! My worry is that the changes stop with management. The Glazers do not seem to be exactly on the ball (if you'll pardon the pun) with football in any way. So they have thrown the chequebook at players in the past and now they see that hasn't worked, they're trying the hipster manager route. Get rid of a few useless staff members too and hope that this turns things around.

As far as I'm aware though, we haven't added anyone to the scouting or recruitment departments that might mean our approach to signings will be any better than previous seasons, and with a tight budget and all the talk bring about De Jong, it feels like one of those 'well we tried to get X player all summer and that didn't work, so here's Fellaini' situations.
 
DDG
Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw
Mctom/Fred
Elanga Bruno Sancho
Ronaldo
 
Von Mistelroum said:
I love the optimism and I hope that we can all be right there with you soon! My worry is that the changes stop with management. The Glazers do not seem to be exactly on the ball (if you'll pardon the pun) with football in any way. So they have thrown the chequebook at players in the past and now they see that hasn't worked, they're trying the hipster manager route. Get rid of a few useless staff members too and hope that this turns things around.

As far as I'm aware though, we haven't added anyone to the scouting or recruitment departments that might mean our approach to signings will be any better than previous seasons, and with a tight budget and all the talk bring about De Jong, it feels like one of those 'well we tried to get X player all summer and that didn't work, so here's Fellaini' situations.
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The last paragraph sums up exactly where I am.

FDJ is gonna drag out all summer long, can feel it already.

I posted it above, these sentiments about ETH only joining cause he got assurances, what utter nonsense. You think LVG & Jose weren't given "assurances" prior to signing?

The buck stops with the Glazers ultimately, if they don't want to sign off a given player they won't and Woodward, Judge or Arnold are all irrelevant in that discussion.
 
Von Mistelroum said:
I love the optimism and I hope that we can all be right there with you soon! My worry is that the changes stop with management. The Glazers do not seem to be exactly on the ball (if you'll pardon the pun) with football in any way. So they have thrown the chequebook at players in the past and now they see that hasn't worked, they're trying the hipster manager route. Get rid of a few useless staff members too and hope that this turns things around.

As far as I'm aware though, we haven't added anyone to the scouting or recruitment departments that might mean our approach to signings will be any better than previous seasons, and with a tight budget and all the talk bring about De Jong, it feels like one of those 'well we tried to get X player all summer and that didn't work, so here's Fellaini' situations.
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the glazers have never and never will be football experts, they just hold the chequebook so it really is down to the people in the footballing roles to make the correct decisions. One thing the glazers have done is spend on players. Not much else.. but they have always done that. ETH will know his budget and they will be working around the clock to fufill it, they won’t be sat twiddling their thumbs. If the signings don’t happen it won’t be through lack of trying, it will be because it’s not a given, it’s not easy like it used to be.. for this club. 20 years ago.. haaland signs for united, doesn’t even look at city.. but here we are. Football is different, it’s changed, so let’s hope we can be smart in the market and chase actually attainable targets. That’s going to be the key.
 
ForeverRed1 said:
so let’s hope we can be smart in the market and chase actually attainable targets. That’s going to be the key.
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Chasing FDJ when Barca want 100m, meanwhile Bissouma signs for Spurs for 25m.

The tell tale signs are already there it seems.

Very underwhelmed personally with the names we are linked with thus far... Timber, Antony and Ings.
 
DDG

Dalot
Varane (if fit)
Maguire
Shaw (if fit)

McTominay
De Jong
Bruno

Sancho
Rashford
Ronaldo
 
Amazing seeing so many posters basically posting the exact same XI as last season with just FDJ added.
 
Keefy18 said:
Amazing seeing so many posters basically posting the exact same XI as last season with just FDJ added.
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Is it 'amazing' though?
Personally, I don't feel there is much appetite at the club to make wholesale changes to this squad of players.
I just don't see any possibility whatsoever that the club are going to effectively write off Maguire, Rashford & Shaw.
Honestly, the only player in that XI that I think might be replaced is Dalot, but even then, I think that depends largely on selling Wan-Bissaka, and I'm not convinced that will happen.
 
Ikon said:
Is it 'amazing' though?
Personally, I don't feel there is much appetite at the club to make wholesale changes to this squad of players.
I just don't see any possibility whatsoever that the club are going to effectively write off Maguire, Rashford & Shaw.
Honestly, the only player in that XI that I think might be replaced is Dalot, but even then, I think that depends largely on selling Wan-Bissaka, and I'm not convinced that will happen.
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Probably should of divulged a bit more... amazing that after all the talk of revolution etc most everyone seems to think its a case of the same old faces next year.

I absolutely agree and folks are pinning their hopes on this lot of lazy fcuks with toxic attitudes suddenly working and performing for ETH?

He's a top manager but reckon he's most likely a dead man walking unless the board agree to see out a proper rebuild over at least 3 years.
 
De Gea
Timber----Varane----Maguire
Dalot-----Frenkie-----Vitinha------Trossard
Greenwood/Antony------------Bruno
Ronaldo​
 
His first starting xi will be:

De Gea
Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo
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His starting xi after the window closes will be:

De Gea
Dalot Varane Maguire Shaw
Fred McTominay
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Ronaldo​
 
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