Grzegorz Krychowiak

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...hes-snubs-Old-Trafford-for-Bayern-Munich.html
MANCHESTER UNITED are ready to swoop for Grzegorz Krychowiak after missing out on Renato Sanches.

Krychowiak is a £30million target following his stunning performances for Sevilla and helping them win the Europa League.

United have been looking to strengthen in central midfield regardless of Louis van Gaal’s future.

Michael Carrick has not agreed a new deal to stay at Old Trafford and there are doubts over Morgan Schneiderlin being a long-term solution.

Krychowiak, 26, is seen as on their summer hitlist as a replacement and has also been scouted by Arsenal.

Everton have looked at the Poland international but he is likely to go to a traditional European heavyweight when he leaves La Liga.

Juventus have also enquired about the midfielder, who will be allowed to leave Sevilla when they receive the right bid.

Arsene Wenger considered £25million Krychowiak in the January window after he was recommended by scouting reports as an ideal man to plug his problem in defensive midfield for the title race.

But the Frenchman surprised some at the club by going for the cheaper option and spending £5million on Mo Elneny, who Wenger admitted would take time to adapt in the Premier League.

Krychowiak is expected to be ready for English football immediately, which he showed in the Europa League final against Liverpool.
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Shitty source but he's a very Jose type of player so I thought he was worth a thread.

Prerequisite Youtube vid.

 
Is he a defensive #6 or a box to box #8 or a hybrid? Heard he's good but if we want a #6 I'd rather TFM play there.
 
I think a more creative CM is more what we need, although we could do with a DM if Carrick leaves.
 
TitusCrumble said:
Is he a defensive #6 or a box to box #8 or a hybrid? Heard he's good but if we want a #6 I'd rather TFM play there.
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He is a pure #6, he is mobile but he is a defensive midfielder.
 
Between him, Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger don't you think we already have enough players with hard to spell names.

I'd take him or Kante though.
 
TitusCrumble said:
Is he a defensive #6 or a box to box #8 or a hybrid? Heard he's good but if we want a #6 I'd rather TFM play there.
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Fosu-Mensah is an extremely young player, and #6 is a positional that demands higher than average tactical nous and intelligence - which is why the best #6 players usually emerge into their mid 20s once they've ironed some of their chinks out to become more precise and effective. Quality experience is what our team lacks severely at this moment in time, and Krychowiak would provide some of that given his performances over the last couple seasons. Going up against the juggernauts in La Liga, winning back to back Europa League titles, being arguably Sevilla's most important midfielder (if not most important player overall), being named to the La Liga and Europa League team of the season. All of that will hold our team in good stead when we some more determined players, and he's about to enter the prime years for a midfielder at age 26 too.

There really is no hurry to put an 18 year old in a critical position on the pitch, one that can make or break games, if not seasons - evidenced by Chelsea's dramatic improvement when Matić found his groove, or Fernandinho providing balance to Touré's adventurousness. Also, the spine of our team can be rather wobbly at times, and making a fixture out of youngster who will have natural ups and down wouldn't be the best recipe going forward. Krychowiak has the bite and grit to put his mark at the position (again, something we are lacking in on the evidence of this season), and one would be hard pressed to name better attainable defensive midfielders than him. Ooh, and he's excellent in the air - which should be a factor on set pieces and winning balls in open play via goalkicks. eg. He won 71% of his aerial duels last season. So you won't have to shoehorn limited players like Fellaini to compensate for our perceived weakness in the air.
 
The red panther said:
It is were he is least harmfull to the team and I think Jose isn't going to be the one benching him
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Rooney is still a striker, he is still an attacker, he just needs to play in a team that gives more than 10 touches to the striker. The goal that he created yesterday is what you will get if you actually try to put him in position in the last third.
 
Schneiderlin was playing his best football at Southampton as a B2B midfielder so if this guy is more of a traditional DM and it allows Schneiderlin to take a step up the pitch I'd be all for signing him.
 
SATA said:
Who's better at the moment, him or the one Arsenal just signed?
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Him. Just calling him Greg before my iPhone sets itself on fire trying to autocorrect his real name
 
JPRouve said:
Rooney is still a striker, he is still an attacker, he just needs to play in a team that gives more than 10 touches to the striker. The goal that he created yesterday is what you will get if you actually try to put him in position in the last third.
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He has played as a striker for most of the season he has not been impressive and that is putting it kindly. If you see rashford on that position he is miles better as a striker. Rooney is finished on that position, it will be midfield (from he which he can still join in the attacking third) or out of the team.
 
DavidG said:
Him. Just calling him Greg before my iPhone sets itself on fire trying to autocorrect his real name
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Not so sure about that. Think Xhaka is better on the ball and in passing, while Krychowiak is probably better off it and more aggressive/better in tackling.
 
Invictus said:
Fosu-Mensah is an extremely young player, and #6 is a positional that demands higher than average tactical nous and intelligence - which is why the best #6 players usually emerge into their mid 20s once they've ironed some of their chinks out to become more precise and effective. Quality experience is what our team lacks severely at this moment in time, and Krychowiak would provide some of that given his performances over the last couple seasons. Going up against the juggernauts in La Liga, winning back to back Europa League titles, being arguably Sevilla's most important midfielder (if not most important player overall), being named to the La Liga and Europa League team of the season. All of that will hold our team in good stead when we some more determined players, and he's about to enter the prime years for a midfielder at age 26 too.

There really is no hurry to put an 18 year old in a critical position on the pitch, one that can make or break games, if not seasons - evidenced by Chelsea's dramatic improvement when Matić found his groove, or Fernandinho providing balance to Touré's adventurousness. Also, the spine of our team can be rather wobbly at times, and making a fixture out of youngster who will have natural ups and down wouldn't be the best recipe going forward. Krychowiak has the bite and grit to put his mark at the position (again, something we are lacking in on the evidence of this season), and one would be hard pressed to name better attainable defensive midfielders than him. Ooh, and he's excellent in the air - which should be a factor on set pieces and winning balls in open play via goalkicks. eg. He won 71% of his aerial duels last season. So you won't have to shoehorn limited players like Fellaini to compensate for our perceived weakness in the air.
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This is another important aspect, adding him and a big CB will remove the need to keep using Fellaini.
 
SATA said:
Who's better at the moment, him or the one Arsenal just signed?
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They are both fairly different. krychowiak is a classic DM/"destroyer". He is great in this role, but overall he is limited going forward. Xhaka is more like Alonso. He is very good when his team is in possession. Yet he is not equally good on the defensive end. Both could play in the same team.
It is hard to say who is the superior player. Xhaka is clearly more versatile and complete, but at the same time krychowiak is absolutely instrumental for Sevilla´s success.
Arsenal should have done everything in their power to sign krychowiak. They would have won the title with him in the squad this season and he´d be a great addition next season.
 
izec said:
Not so sure about that. Think Xhaka is better on the ball and in passing, while Krychowiak is probably better off it and more aggressive/better in tackling.
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I haven't seen enough of xhaka to make an honest comparison to be fair but when Greg is on form , he's arguably one of the best in his position in the world . Hugely important for Poland too. Definitely has it in him to be a strong box to box midfielder .

On a sidenote, Sevilla really have had some decent players eh ?

Dani alves, Sergio Ramos , Julio Baptista, Rakitic, Greg ..... Quite the conveyor belt , although the theme seems to be that their big players go to Barcelona or real so I'm sure that trend may end up continuing
 
Devil may care said:
He can't half shift for such a big unit! :eek:
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Yep. And more:

This time it's Ronaldo. We do need a more steely presence in midfield, and he'd be almost perfect for that in a Mourinho setup - given that his best teams had a deep 'anchor' to break up the opposition attacks.
 
Invictus said:
Yep. And more:

This time it's Ronaldo. We do need a more steely presence in midfield, and he'd be almost perfect for that in a Mourinho setup - given that his best teams had a deep 'anchor' to break up the opposition attacks.
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If we plonk him in front of the back 4 and add an athletic, dynamic creative CM we can get away with Rooney and Schweini sharing the other CM role IMO.
 
I seem to recall Otamendi's gifs against Messi and Ronaldo too.

Quality player, but I don't think that he and Schneiderlin will work together and I would love for us to sign someone in the mould of Gundogan/Verratti instead
 
- Career peak: 26 years old
- Successful with Sevilla & Poland. Good in France with Reims

The issue is we already have a lot of central midfielders: Carrick, Schneiderlin, Schweini, Fellaini, Herrera, Mata...

Mourinho seems to have a preference for the 4-2-1-3 system with a central attacking midfielder (Porto: Deco, Inter: Sneijder, Real: Ozil & Chelsea: Oscar)

So, regarding the midfield, the top priority should be rather the central offensive midfielder/support striker.

If one of our current central midfielders is invited to leave the club, Krychowiak would be the welcome.
 
harms said:
I seem to recall Otamendi's gifs against Messi and Ronaldo too.

Quality player, but I don't think that he and Schneiderlin will work together and I would love for us to sign someone in the mould of Gundogan/Verratti instead
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We will lose some offensive quality once Carrick is phased out/leaves. But strengthening our spine and set pieces in one fell swoop wouldn't be half bad.

I guess it may depend on Mou's opinion of Morgan...
 
Downcast said:
- Career peak: 26 years old
- Successful with Sevilla & Poland. Good in France with Reims

The issue is we already have a lot of central midfielders: Carrick, Schneiderlin, Schweini, Fellaini, Herrera, Mata...

Mourinho seems to have a preference for the 4-2-1-3 system with a central attacking midfielder (Porto: Deco, Inter: Sneijder, Real: Ozil & Chelsea: Oscar)

So, regarding the midfield, the top priority should be rather the central offensive midfielder/support striker.

If one of our current central midfielders is invited to leave the club, Krychowiak would be the welcome.
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arent you supporting PSG? Or did you copy that from somewhere?
 
SATA said:
Who's better at the moment, him or the one Arsenal just signed?
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They are different midfielders and I'd argue that we would need Xhaka more. IMO Xhaka is more talented than him and also better than him.
 
bucky said:
They are different midfielders and I'd argue that we would need Xhaka more. IMO Xhaka is more talented than him and also better than him.
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According to some reports, he's likely to join Arsenal.
 
Based on what I've seen this season, Schneiderlin isn't capable of playing the dm role, nor is Schweinsteiger. I'd actually expect Mourinho to try and sell the latter. Schneiderlin will prob just be a back-up to Rooney in the box to box role. Then we'll likely have a cam, either Mata or more likely a new signing (I think there's a good chance we might bring in James Rodriguez to play the role). We are badly lacking in the dm position. TFM might be kept as a back-up. He has the physical attributes Mourinho likes in his players but he certainly wouldn't be a starter next season. I was thinking William Carvalho could potentially be a good option if he recovers from his injury problems but Krychowiak was a player I overlooked. He'd be a sensible and realistic option imo.
 
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