Granite chins .. any boxers here?

Spoonatov said:
I thought he was the best middleweight around in early 80's. Better than Hearns and Sugar Ray. (in fact he was unluckly to lose to Leonard).
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I dont think he lost that fight watched it so many times, scored it and is party of the reason i dislike Leonard. Saying that Hearns and Leonard were more welterweights moving up
 
CLK_FPC said:
I dont think he lost that fight watched it so many times, scored it and is party of the reason i dislike Leonard. Saying that Hearns and Leonard were more welterweights moving up
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But they were brilliant middleweights too.
 
DanH said:
I think you're right to say that the legs play a part, having a strong base leading up to the core can only complement you ability to absorb the impact of blows.
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Yes. And the way you stand makes a difference and all. If you're stood up, with a wider stance, you're more likley to keep your balance.
 
Spoonatov said:
But they were brilliant middleweights too.
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True Hearns should and would of had a better resume out of the fabulous four if he had legs he in the fights he lost it was his legs that gave up on him. Duran is a legend, i can't talk enough about this man and he knockjed out a horse with a punch!
 
CLK_FPC said:
True Hearns should and would of had a better resume out of the fabulous four if he had legs he in the fights he lost it was his legs that gave up on him. Duran is a legend, i can't talk enough about this man and he knockjed out a horse with a punch!
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Sugar Ray was lucky to beat him (Hearns) and all, I seem to recall. As for Duran, one of the best fighters, ever.
 
Hagler is my favourite of the three, Hearns for his knockout power was exciting to watch but as an actual fighter Duran comes behind Hagler in my preference so ferocious great boxer one of the best light weights ever. He put up such a great fight against Hagler and win or lose he was always interesting to watch from no mas to his thuinder kayo against Hearns
 
CLK_FPC said:
Go and check he has no jab, thats why his speciality punch was the lead right. He made his name because he was unorthodox, doing things that went against the established 'rules' of boxing like throwing the quadruple hook. Things that he could do because he was so athletically gifted.
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See, I don't get this at all. How can any professional boxer have "no jab"? It's not like it's a difficult punch to throw :confused:

Sure he was unorthodox but surely that was because that made him a a more awkward opponent to fight, rather than because he wasn't skilled enough to fight in a more orthodox style.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
See, I don't get this at all. How can any professional boxer have "no jab"? It's not like it's a difficult punch to throw :confused:

Sure he was unorthodox but surely that was because that made him a a more awkward opponent to fight, rather than because he wasn't skilled enough to fight in a more orthodox style.
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when i say no jab, i mean its sloppy. It wasnt strong or straight he threw it fast but having a fast jab doesnt mean a good jab. Ike Quartey was called the Bazooka because he would blast a hole through you with his jab. Jones jab is nothing to talk about.
And being unorthodox meant he didnt learn the basics properly if you saw his fight with Calzaghe you will see exactly what i mean his speed and reflexs wern't there thus he had no second plan he couldnt do nothing to change how the fight was going
 
As much as someone mentioned Calzaghe, I'd submit Kessler alongside him. Watching their fight I was amazed how Kessler kept going. Granted Calzaghe's not the biggest puncher but the sheer volume landed should have put Kessler down.
 
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