Glazer Family Consider Selling? (Source unverified)

Wouldn't make any difference to the team, so who cares.
 
Consider this… Micheal Knighton bid 20M in 1989 for the club, but couldn’t raise the finances.
 
Exactly. No business person will invest 5 billion+ and then continue to fund massive transfer windows unquestioned. Being owned by a sports washing regime or an olygarch is the only way to obtain that kind of spending power and given what’s happened with Abramovich it’s not clear if that is in the long term best interests of the club (even if you were ok with the source of the funds).

In the long run a proper footballing structure with a guaranteed self generated transfer budget that still allows the owners to take their ill gotten dividends is the most sustainable set up.
On that note, when has a business ever de- corporatized without it all going to shit first?

I've seen comments on this board along the lines of "I would take relegation to get the Glazers out", or "i'd happily have what happened to Rangers happen to us to get the Glazers out", but for the Glazers to give up United that scenario would have to be such a catastrophe that it would lose a lot of the fanbase, including some the fans saying these things.
 
If people are going to use the Chelsea sale price as a guideline then can they start saying £2.5 billion as that was the sale price and NOT £4.25 billion, £1.75 billion is promised as investment into Chelsea over the next decade but that includes a new stadium or serious upgrade on the current one as well their training ground and youth system as well as players so £4.25 billion is NOT the guideline for a United sale.

People also need to remember that the Glazer’s didn’t use their own money to buy United and that the club was bought through loans against the club for £790 million so a bid of £3.5 billion upwards which would be a world record purchase would be extremely tempting if not too good to turn down, they could use that money to pump into Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the new Indian Super League team they’re in talks to buy.

I think if Jim Ratcliffe bid £4 billion for United the Glazer’s would take it and I think it’d be the best move for all parties as the Glazer’s ownership for my mind has become untenable and they will NEVER win us round now whilst Ratcliffe is a United fan so would do best by the club instead of taking millions every year out of the club, take away the loan repayments and interest and as a simple self sustaining club we’d be richer than anyone else outside of oil rich clubs like PSG and City.
 
Would Elon Musk be interested?
No thanks. If the state of his factories is anything to go by, our already broken dressing room would become an even more toxic workplace. And just wait until he starts berating the manager or pitting players against each other on Twitter. He probably would only pretend to buy the club anyway before trying to back out by sh*t talking us on social media. Apartheid Clyde can stay well away.
 
I never expected to ever hear the name Michael Knighton on a CAF thread unless it was for some historical nostalgic banter.
It is the same guy right? The keepie uppie fraudster?
My god, we must be bored
 
People also need to remember that the Glazer’s didn’t use their own money to buy United and that the club was bought through loans against the club for £790 million
This is key. The sale of the club is pure profit for them regardless of what price they sell for. It’s paying them a healthy dividend and it’s an asset that has continued to increase in value to boot with no risk to them.

It’s hard to imagine a time when the club is not worth them keeping. So much would have to go wrong. I don’t even think relegation would be enough.
 
No thanks. If the state of his factories is anything to go by, our already broken dressing room would become an even more toxic workplace. And just wait until he starts berating the manager or pitting players against each other on Twitter. He probably would only pretend to buy the club anyway before trying to back out by sh*t talking us on social media. Apartheid Clyde can stay well away.

Between Glazers and Musk? No brainer, 110% Musk.
 
I think he does an amazing job and is a great guy, but from an ownership point of view it just does not make any sense

I suggest you do some research then. Elon Musk is so far from being "a great guy" it's not even funny.
 
Elon Musk would be an interesting buyer.

Plenty of commercial sponsorship opportunities available to leverage the Tesla brand.
He wouldn’t touch us unless there was something massive in it for him. Plus, Tesla is already worth $700 per share on the stock market, after falling from a recent $1000 due to the current climate. He doesn’t need to leverage that brand, we all know who he is and what Tesla do.
 
On that note, when has a business ever de- corporatized without it all going to shit first?

I've seen comments on this board along the lines of "I would take relegation to get the Glazers out", or "i'd happily have what happened to Rangers happen to us to get the Glazers out", but for the Glazers to give up United that scenario would have to be such a catastrophe that it would lose a lot of the fanbase, including some the fans saying these things.
The only realistic way to get rid of the glazers is for United to reach a valuation of £10b and for them to cash in. Investors don’t sell when things drop in price, they sell when things move up.
 
What just cos he doesn’t sing from the woke playbook?
No, for me it's because he baselessly accused a man trying to save children stuck in a cave of being a pedophile because he said (accurately) that Elon's idiotic submarine idea wouldn't work.
 
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Elon Musk would be an interesting buyer.

Plenty of commercial sponsorship opportunities available to leverage the Tesla brand.
He will fire employees who have spent decades at the club and call them lazy cnuts.
 
He will fire employees who have spent decades at the club and call them lazy cnuts.

He's a narcissist and a chancer who thinks he's Tony Stark. However he is very rich. Not sure he's heard of England though...
 
Why the actual feck are people talking about Elon Musk?

I guess we’ve reached that point of insanity where all hope is lost.

Crying shame.
 


Thoughts?

Don’t think it’s likely.
1) Man Utd are not really a club whose sale value will be entirely determined by the shares.

Basically we currently have a market cap of 1.99b. This is based on our share price x the amount of outstanding shares. But from the outstanding shares less a 3rd are free float (available to trade). The vast majority are held by the Glazers. So actually price will be determined by revenue, the Glazers willingness to sell, demand, sales of other clubs, future sponsorship deals etc.

2) It’s been a crappy first 6 months for shares across all markets. A 23% decline is in line with the overall market.

3) For example, Tesla dropped 50% from its ATH, Apple at some stages has been down 25% or more from ATH.

TLDR share price is insignificant to the glazers.
 
Why the actual feck are people talking about Elon Musk?

I guess we’ve reached that point of insanity where all hope is lost.

Crying shame.

It’s actually hilarious seeing him become idolised by the “take down the hedge funds and destroy the banks” and “we hate market manipulation” gang… Elon is basically the new face of that
 
It’s actually hilarious seeing him become idolised by the “take down the hedge funds and destroy the banks” and “we hate market manipulation” gang… Elon is basically the new face of that

Elon is scum but has a unique skillset to align himself with the latest ‘hype’ and whatever generation we’re now in Z, X or who knows. Actually he finds ways to define what hype is.

The way he manipulated markets in the past is scary. He’s done it with Twitter he kept doing it with a nymber of cryptos he is everywhere. He just doesnt bat an eye goes in all guns blazing and has a horde of ‘woke’ middle aged middle class warriors backing him up on all he does as if he is jesus.

He could ruin United (for me). I wont put him up there with oil money and Saudis but the guy is a villain.
 
Musk? No thanks. I want the Glazers to sell as much as the next bloke but Musk wouldn't be my choice for our new owner. Anyway, I think this is all pie-in-the-sky as the Glazers, leeches that they are, aren't going away.
 
So if Musk buys us will he make Amber Heard CEO?
 
I think he does an amazing job and is a great guy, but from an ownership point of view it just does not make any sense
The guy segregates by race in his factories, made people work through Covid and wants Trump back on the internet megaphone. That great guy?

Some of you really are naive.
 
The guy segregates by race in his factories, made people work through Covid and wants Trump back on the internet megaphone. That great guy?

Some of you really are naive.
What?
That's illegal here in us, or does he do it in other countries?
Edit: im assuming you're talking This which doesn't really look solid to me but i guess we find out if its legit or not .
Anyway I don't want him here as he is cringy as feck and I don't think knows how to operate a football club either but I find the recent hate boner against him peculiar, everyone seemed to love him before but now every publishing site is doing hit pieces against him.

I doubt if he's any more or any less evil than other billionaires, he's just another rich dude.
 
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It’s actually hilarious seeing him become idolised by the “take down the hedge funds and destroy the banks” and “we hate market manipulation” gang… Elon is basically the new face of that
To be fair I know feck all about the bloke, apart from he makes electric cars, is trying to fly to the moon, has bought twitter and is minted.

Why the feck he’d be interested in united is beyond me but what do I know, people clutching at straws by the sounds of things.

Them weird looking septics ain’t selling us anytime soon in my humble opinion.
 
Where can I find this playbook? I'd like to order a copy.
First printed amongst extremist circles in the USA, The Woke Playbook gained traction on social media, mainstream news, TV shows and films, once influencers, celebs and politicians realised how career-positive a move subscribing to the playbook was. Bored, directionless, middle-class British 20-somethings imported millions of copies using their mums' credit cards, and now it's readily available online, and also from some 5-colours-in-zher-hair person found loitering around your local student union. Don't be put off by their contemptuous sneer, though. Just whisper, "genders are limitless" and the pale death in their eyes will abate somewhat.
 
Elon is scum but has a unique skillset to align himself with the latest ‘hype’ and whatever generation we’re now in Z, X or who knows. Actually he finds ways to define what hype is.

The way he manipulated markets in the past is scary. He’s done it with Twitter he kept doing it with a nymber of cryptos he is everywhere. He just doesnt bat an eye goes in all guns blazing and has a horde of ‘woke’ middle aged middle class warriors backing him up on all he does as if he is jesus.

He could ruin United (for me). I wont put him up there with oil money and Saudis but the guy is a villain.

Definitely. He’s too erratic. Also can see him getting pushed out of Tesla as CEO in mid to long term as the USP that Tesla had starts to erode and other manufacturers catch up.