Music Glastonbury 2023

DOTA said:
I seem to have wandered in to the Taylor Swift thread by mistake.
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True!

I'm not even that much of a fan, but I respect the talent. The earlier albums have some great stuff too, even if I'm not interested in the more stylised recent stuff.

It just makes me laugh that of all the people to have a go at, they pick one of the clearly most talented people doing it :lol:
 
Berbaclass said:
Highly doubt that honestly. There will be a split in the demographic which favors one side or the other after a certain age. You say people know more Elton songs but he's literally been around for much, much longer.

I'm 29 and I could barely name more than 2-3 Elton John songs but could easily tell you 10 Taylor Swift songs.
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I’m 40 something and can easily name more than 10 from both

although I have seen Taylor live and never seen Elton regrettably
 
Gavinb33 said:
Problem is the saturation of music nowadays, every new thing is discarded as soon as the next new big thing comes along we live in a consumerist world and music is no different to anything imo
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In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.
 
sullydnl said:
In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.
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Yes that's better put than my drunken ramblings, I do think artists are discarded quickly these days though
 
sullydnl said:
In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.
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Very good point.
 
sullydnl said:
In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.
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That's not many words for saying a lost of stuff, kudos my man.
 
I personally don't get Taylor Swift at all, but I'd be a lunatic to claim she wasn't a huge megastar with loads of songs a younger generation could easily reel off at the drop of a hat.

Again... this is what happens when huge cultural event festivals - which are often the only time a lot of lay people engage with the popular music zeitgeist - become centrist dad sing alongs. It just becomes a feedback loop of what people consider 'proper' music/stars etc.

Elton was great though, obviously.
 
sullydnl said:
In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.
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this is a very good post.

I heard of bad bunny for the first time in my life about 6 months ago for example
 
From my armchair probably one of the best ever Glasto days in recent times on the Pyramid.

Banger after Banger with Elton so one of the best headline sets in last decade comfortably.

Cat Stevens was the usual perfectly placed afternoon sing-a-long and hopefully Blondie sounded a bit better actually at the venue but again Debbie Harry is even older than Elton John.

Does this Festival still have break years or did they scrap that after the pandemic disruption? Looking forward to seeing who headlines next year.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
nobody is comparing her, to Elton I asked if anybody now would be round in 30 years and could do 2 hours of hits
I can’t think of many that could, she could maybe.
Elton is a legend there will never be another Elton
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Adele over Taylor Swift surely although she played Glasto in 2016.

Spice Girls sort of self promoting for Glastonbury so they'll turn up in next few years I suspect.
 
Mockney said:
I personally don't get Taylor Swift at all, but I'd be a lunatic to claim she wasn't a huge megastar with loads of songs a younger generation could easily reel off at the drop of a hat.

Again... this is what happens when huge cultural event festivals - which are often the only time a lot of lay people engage with the popular music zeitgeist - become centrist dad sing alongs. It just becomes a feedback loop of what people consider 'proper' music/stars etc.

Elton was great though, obviously.
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Urgh, no need for that.
 
Mockney said:
I personally don't get Taylor Swift at all, but I'd be a lunatic to claim she wasn't a huge megastar with loads of songs a younger generation could probably reel off at the drop of a hat.

Again... this is what happens when huge cultural event festivals - which are often the only time a lot of lay people engage with the popular music zeitgeist - become Centrist dad sing alongs. It just becomes a feedback loop of what people consider 'proper' music/stars etc.

Elton was great though, obviously.
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Ironically, a lot of Swifts' earlier stuff is more akin to dad rock stuff that suits Glasto than what she does now.

The thing she shares with Elton, if any, is the ability to just sit with an instrument and play and entertain. Even tonight was a far cry from the days of Elton being nothing but a "pop star" with all the raz that goes with it. Some of his stuff back in the day puts these modern kids to Shame! But that's the point isn't it? Like Parton did, like Macca did, like most do (again, rather ironically unlike the 30something "rock band" Artic Monkeys barely did) at least at the root of it all, she can entertain with actual bona-fide talent.

As I said earlier, of all the people to dismiss as simply a modern "pop star", Swift is the worst one to pick of the lot.
 
RedNome said:
Urgh, no need for that.
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Harsh but fair. Some try to be mean and call Glasto a festival for Tories but really it is a festival for people who dream of electoral pacts and share highly dubious tactical voting guides on Facebook.
 
DOTA said:
Harsh but fair. Some try to be mean and call Glasto a festival for Tories but really it is a festival for people who dream of electoral pacts and share highly dubious tactical voting guides on Facebook.
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:lol: :lol:

I was just singing some songs.
 
Wow, listening to "The Hu's" set, this is brilliant.

Who knew Mongolian Throat Metal was a thing!
 
That's it, I'm all in, I'm officially a The Hu fan, this is some f**king proper Mongolian formulaic metal, I'm not kidding, best Glasto set for me.
 


Looks like the people who skipped Elton to see QOTSA were fine with their decision.
 
Mockney said:
I personally don't get Taylor Swift at all, but I'd be a lunatic to claim she wasn't a huge megastar with loads of songs a younger generation could easily reel off at the drop of a hat.

Again... this is what happens when huge cultural event festivals - which are often the only time a lot of lay people engage with the popular music zeitgeist - become centrist dad sing alongs. It just becomes a feedback loop of what people consider 'proper' music/stars etc.

Elton was great though, obviously.
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Also a female male divide which no one fully considers. She’s a hands down feminine icon - pretty much all the women I know worship her musically and know all her songs back to front.

As a male it can easier to dismiss her music and think it doesn’t have ‘impact’ but she has a mass mass following.

I’d say Elton probably edges this battle because talent wise and musically he trancednss different cultures and divides more and feels like more than a musician but that shouldn’t dismiss how much of a global phenomenon she is in her own right. To be seen as inferior to an Elton hardly makes you a bad artist.
 
RedNome said:
Wow, listening to "The Hu's" set, this is brilliant.

Who knew Mongolian Throat Metal was a thing!
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RedNome said:
That's it, I'm all in, I'm officially a The Hu fan, this is some f**king proper Mongolian formulaic metal, I'm not kidding, best Glasto set for me.
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Saw them at Download the other week. Had never heard of them but I’d say they were one of the best things I heard that weekend. Proper mesmerising stuff.
 
Longevity plays a part but I songs that are considered hits these days have far less cultural relevance and impact. It's obvious too that songs were once better crafted.

Maybe it's an age thing but there really people moaning about newer artists not headlining and I think: sure, let Taylor Swift sing her 17 identical songs about past boyfriends.
 
sullydnl said:
In this case I think the issue is less saturation and more segmentation.

In terms of creating mass cross-generational appeal, there's a lot to be said for being played for decades on a small handful of radio and TV stations that huge swathes of the country tune into to day in day out, week in week out. But that doesn't really exist for new artists in the way it did for someone like Elton John.

It's never been easier to not have heard a song by a mega-selling artist.
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Exactly. Plus what even is a “mega selling artist” now there’s such a disconnect between record sales and music consumption?
 
stw2022 said:
Longevity plays a part but I songs that are considered hits these days have far less cultural relevance and impact. It's obvious too that songs were once better crafted.

Maybe it's an age thing but there really people moaning about newer artists not headlining and I think: sure, let Taylor Swift sing her 17 identical songs about past boyfriends.
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It's not the quality of songs that has decreased, it's the reach.
 
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