PC gone mad, innit?
Giggs trial
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Speak for yourself.
I don't dear.
I just don't like people presuming guilt on such a serious matter.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Nice try.
Giggs just hasn't a clue how to behave in the presence of women. He should learn to live a life of celibacy and save himself the trouble. It's cost him a potential career in management and will eventually cost him a role on TV as well.
He was supposed to train up to get the opportunity to take over United some day, now I would not go near him with a ten foot pole.
In ruins.
He was supposed to train up to get the opportunity to take over United some day, now I would not go near him with a ten foot pole.
In ruins.
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You're quite an angry person aren't you? Yes it is a Manchester United forum, and we are here discussing something non united related. What your point is on that I'm not sure? Weird comment
No I don't think torture is ok, just so you know. There are 141 countries that allow it apparently. Glad I don’t live in any of them.
Bit of a jump from stating reasonable chastisement of a child which is legal in many countries to I‘m an advocate torture. But there ya go, this thread is fully triggering some and half of it is what they want to see not what they’re reading.
It's more the principle of it. Nobody said you're an advocate of torture, calm down.
Giggs is a cnut who fecked his brothers wife in secret for a decade, he has no morals. The man is scum.
I wonder how many posters in this thread have female friends or girlfriends or wives.
Who would have thought this thread would turn into a shit show? 
Some good old fashioned victim blaming and even some thinly veiled incel attitudes.
In a thread about Ryan Giggs trial there was a whole page talking about Napoleon.
Redcafe you weird.
Some good old fashioned victim blaming and even some thinly veiled incel attitudes.
In a thread about Ryan Giggs trial there was a whole page talking about Napoleon.
Redcafe you weird.
I've not followed the case to be fair but I know bits and bobs of what the allegations are about and if I'm honest it all fits in with the power crazed persona people have claimed he has over his family and wife/girlfriends/brothers wife.
If convicted I would love to see how the club approach his legacy in future, I seriously doubt he'd ever be considered for any sort of statue in honour of his services.
I know people will point to Best as not exactly being a role model but his flaws were self inflicted punishment whilst Giggs is now coming across a bit of a monster.
If convicted I would love to see how the club approach his legacy in future, I seriously doubt he'd ever be considered for any sort of statue in honour of his services.
I know people will point to Best as not exactly being a role model but his flaws were self inflicted punishment whilst Giggs is now coming across a bit of a monster.
Who would have thought this thread would turn into a shit show?
Some good old fashioned victim blaming and even some thinly veiled incel attitudes.
In a thread about Ryan Giggs trial there was a whole page talking about Napoleon.
Redcafe you weird.
This thread was first about the UK though, where it is illegal. Also, hitting kids has not helped anyone ever anywhere,.so some discussion would be warranted and I'd engage in it.
I'm not a hero though, I'd probably rather call the police if I knew this kind of stuff was going on.
That was interesting though!
My guy gave a history lesson on the woman's plight to justify potential abuse. Oh my dayyssssssss
I have a wife.
To the best of my knowledge and belief, she’s female.
I don’t think violence towards women or children (other than a playful slap on the bottom of a consenting woman and moderate chastisement of an obnoxiously behaved child) is ever acceptable.
Some of the stuff on here is downright disturbing. Apparently it’s ok to hit women if they are not as wealthy as the men they have apparently ensnared.
UK Law is;
It is legal for a carer or parent to smack their own child to what amounts to "reasonable punishment" according to section 58 of the Children Act 2004.
So just so you know the legalities and where you stand when you call the Police. I won't judge (unlike you) whether reasonable chastisement of a child has ever helped or not helped, but I can say from personal experience my parents did it to me and I never need to with my child, but my son is very reasonable, I wasn't so much and it gave me boundaries.
As for Giggs if he's committed an illegal act, then he deserves to be punished, as it may help him overcome his issues.
Its a principle, I used to know a guy who seemed a nice guy, he gave his partner a black eye, they are still together but I have had nothing to do with him since.
I don't associate with people who think it's OK to hit women neither do I associate with guys who try to control and manipulate women and it's amazing how many of them there are in the world.
A guilt trip here, a guilt trip there, criticising her hair, make-up or outfit because you think other guys may look at her etc.
And if it was a family member who hit a woman... I'd give him a taste of his own medicine so that he learns once and for all.
I have a daughter so that is probably why I despise guys who treat women wrong, however even if I didn't have a daughter I would still hold the same view.
The Napoleon tangent is one of the stranger tangents I've seen in a while. It's natural for there to be offshoots of a topic on a discussion forum, but that one was really, really out of left field.
This thread has thrown up some of the worst posts I've seen on here.
So.. is there any real evidence yet? Or still 22 pages of smearing Giggsy's reputation? Can't read through all of it since 99% of the posts are off topic.
He has a reputation to smear?
Had to double check the url, for a second I thought it's rawk and not a United forum.
There’s that classic football tribalism on show.
Best was a woman beater too.
I kinda get what you're saying, but I think you're also missing the points made a little bit.
The "takes two to tango" was mentioned with regards to Giggs' relationship with his brother's partner. Where, yeah, that's definitely the case.
It doesn't necessarily take two to tango to be abused in a relationship.
And then I really hope we aren't all pretty shitty people. And especially when the bar is set at abusing your partner.
This kind of thread should be closed.
Classic smi11ie
No Nazi's though.Shame.
Yes I have lived a life. On balance I would say that the fairer sex has come out on top. I am a father and a (still married) one time husband. I get the feeling that these threads attract inexperienced teenagers. The same teenagers that would take advantage of anything that came their way. I can hold my hand up and say I have never hit my wife with the exception of a (one time) pillow fight. I just think that alot of you pubeless wankers should stick to the playstation threads and stop picking the bones of experienced fathers.
Amber heard is a different kettle of fish, the girl lied about the facts and fabricated alot of stuff, that's pure lies.
If bellow indeed happened:
1. The victim was locked outside naked
2. She got physically injured caused by Giggs
3. And 1 and 2 trully happened
Then Giggs is by all means already guilty, you don't do that regardless of reasons. Technicalities and reasonable doubt may have exempt him, but "IF" he indeed lay a hand on her and locked her out naked than that's it for me. Guilty as charged.
If bellow indeed happened:
1. The victim was locked outside naked
2. She got physically injured caused by Giggs
3. And 1 and 2 trully happened
Then Giggs is by all means already guilty, you don't do that regardless of reasons. Technicalities and reasonable doubt may have exempt him, but "IF" he indeed lay a hand on her and locked her out naked than that's it for me. Guilty as charged.
For clarity, am I one of these “pubeless wankers” you speak of?
I mean, I am pubeless, I am a wanker and I do enjoy the PlayStation.
You have answered your own question.
You could've at least clarified whether or not the shit is inside a handbag.
Well, not really.
I could be fat. It would just be a fact. Yet me asking someone if they're calling me fat doesn't mean they automatically were calling me it just because it's true. My question was if you were calling me one, not if i am one.
If you were calling me one, it's a little weird as i have had no involvement in this thread or any like it whatsoever. In which case i'd suggest maybe looking at yourself before others.
Are you trying to trap me in some crazy puzzle?
If this if that.
Sorry I dont't get it.
The initial attempt at a point by the poster was that Giggs should be excused due to his on field performances, he then used Napoleon as an example thinking that Napoleon's wrongdoings were ignored in France, the latter being wrong. Napoleon is a controversial figure despite his objectively great contributions. So if you apply that example to Giggs, there is no reason to ignore his potential wrongdoings because he was a great player.
It's what most Utd fans do with Best.
I don't know. The fact that he was a troubled man isn't really ignored, I would say that the wife beater and alcoholic tags are very present and I don't know if he is actually forgiven. Of course there is some compartimentalization when people are strictly talking about football but when we are talking about the man things are different.
And a raving alcoholic, whilst that doesn't excuse the fact I doubt he was sound of mind.