Giggs Cover.

kewell's not for me. i read that he doesnt talk to any of the other players and is very aloof indeed. now thats ok for a captin and leader like keano, but kewell no sir, and besides that he would be away with the barbecue merchents down under a good portion of the year, leading to more stress more friction and those bloody headlines again. i agree kewell is a good player and could do well anywhere, but to state a preference for him over our Ryan who's been United through and through for 15 years ever since he ditched the bluenoses :D irony noted ) is a bit disloyal in my onion. giggs is struggling at the moment but we should wait with the stories of replacing him til the day he appears to give up. what is the average memory span of the united fan? divide it by twelve and then eat 68 hard boiled eggs when giggsy (fluffs) in the winner at OT this coming May <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" />
what? no not you David, sit down, we havent won anything yet :p
 
Originally posted by yaps:
<strong>Nothing wrong with Richardson in my opinion</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree, but I still don't want Giggs to leave
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Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>Silly NONE Man Utd Stve. Do you now one player who plays conistenlt well in the reserves wherer the line up is never the same and one never gets aplce from week to week. You talk about his performance vs Arsenal in the Worthington cup last season then you can call him shit.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree Chief. I believe that given a CHANCE with a number of games in the first team, Bojan will become a better consistent performer than Ryan. There's no better sight than Ryan at full flow, but the chances of that occuring more regularily with utd are diminishing, whether by age or form. Sell Ryan and invest the money elsewhere. Let Bojan & Keiran fight for a spot in the first team. They'll gain valuable experience, they'll do a better job than Ryan has performed over the last few seasons and one thing is for sure, you'll definately find more crosses beating the first defender!
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Originally posted by MadDogg:
<strong>It would be great to see Kewell at Man Utd, but we can't get both him and a world-class striker. And it's a striker that we most need.
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Sure we can, we are bursting with money at the moment, probably the only club in the world in that position. £20m for Giggs, £20m out of the transfer kitty. £40 will buy us two world class players easy.
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Originally posted by LenSharkey:
<strong>kewell's not for me. i read that he doesnt talk to any of the other players and is very aloof indeed. now thats ok for a captin and leader like keano, but kewell no sir, and besides that he would be away with the barbecue merchents down under a good portion of the year, leading to more stress more friction and those bloody headlines again.
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Andy Cole was just as aloof and he did fine for us. Veron has to travel and we manage. Can't see the problem with Kewell.

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i agree kewell is a good player and could do well anywhere, but to state a preference for him over our Ryan who's been United through and through for 15 years ever since he ditched the bluenoses :D irony noted ) is a bit disloyal in my onion. giggs is struggling at the moment but we should wait with the stories of replacing him til the day he appears to give up. what is the average memory span of the united fan? [/QB]<hr></blockquote>

It will be very sad to see Giggs go if it happens. But that kind of gut-wrenching decision is what Fergie gets paid £3million a year to take.
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Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>Originally posted by manusteve


Hopless ponce. Have ouy Ever seen the kid play? :mad: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm sure you've seen him plenty in Uganda ehh ?
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There is supposed to be a young Brazilian star by
the name of Adriano at Inter Milan
 
Originally posted by retony:
<strong>There is supposed to be a young Brazilian star by
the name of Adriano at Inter Milan</strong><hr></blockquote>

He's a striker, hardly cover.
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While I think that Richardson should be loaned, I still believe that the winger’s cover problem can be solved internally.

Quinton Fortune is a reliable winger who would be brilliant to us if he is given a chance. While
Djordic (if we work on him) has ample class to make it at OT (that wonder goal against Celtic would have made even Giggs and Best proud)

Another experiment that could work is by moving Silvestre on the wing. Ok he needs to improve his crossing but he is quick, athletic and a fantastic dribbler. Inter had tried him as a left wing back and I think that this experiment is worth a try.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Quinton Fortune is a reliable winger who would be brilliant to us if he is given a chance.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Of course, as long as his leg isn't broken as it has been over the last 6 months. Let's see how he gets on on Sunday, if SAF thinks he's fit enough.
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Originally posted by manusteve:
<strong>United don't need cover for Giggs, they need a replacement.
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Harry Kewell is the best option...the bloke is brilliant and he has a better footballing brain than Giggs, if not his pace. Further, he would play better up front than Giggs does.
temperament. </strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree. Though I think Duff is also an option, Kewell would be cheaper.
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Originally posted by devilish:
[QB]While I think that Richardson should be loaned, I still believe that the winger’s cover problem can be solved internally.

Quinton Fortune is a reliable winger who would be brilliant to us if he is given a chance. While
Djordic (if we work on him) has ample class to make it at OT (that wonder goal against Celtic would have made even Giggs and Best proud)
[QB]<hr></blockquote>

I think Fortune is not a pure winger. He is a good midfield workhorse but to say he is a "reliable winger" I don't think so. Besides, quite a number of people who have been monitoring our youth development have said that Djorjdic won't make it here.

Richardson is the best winger prospect we have. But Ferige may consider to loan him out to gain experience. Ideally we should look for a quick left-footed player who can both be a left winger and a striker.
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Originally posted by manusteve:
[qb]
Harry Kewell is the best option...the bloke is brilliant and he has a better footballing brain than Giggs, if not his pace. Further, he would play better up front than Giggs does.
[qb]<hr></blockquote>

agree

Kewell isn't going anywhere, he's very happy in Yorkshire and will sign a new contract in the summer.

Even if he did leave Leeds his first choice would be Liverpool because he's supported them all his life.
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Money,Glory and trophies make the football world go around if he wanted any of these he would choose United over Liverpool.Kewell would be a great signing,he is very unpredictable with the ball,has pace with strength and can score goals.
 
Originally posted by dave007:
<strong>Kewell isn't going anywhere, he's very happy in Yorkshire and will sign a new contract in the summer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I doubt it. I don't think a player like that would attach himself to a sinking ship like Leeds. He's stalling on a contract at the moment.
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We should be looking at either Damien Duff or Harry Kewell. Both these players have the ability to play on the left, and we should still try and keep Giggsy. He's still terrific in Europe where the pace is relatively slower than the EPL.
 
Do any off you really think that either Damien Duff or Harry Kewell will play second fiddle to Ryan Giggs?

IMO, no, because neither are as good. If you want to take it as far as not sticking a player on the bench just poking at Giggs (Because that is what it will become with those two very expensive signings - once Giggs gets the poke they will be on the bench) then there is only one in my mind that is signable, cheaper than those two, and could put Giggs on the bench. But non of you will listen.

Denilson.
 
The only other choice is Robert Pires, and there is no fecking chance no matter how much money you throw around that Arsenal will let us have him.
 
If Giggs were sold, then Damien Duff or Harry Kewell might be an option.

However, I cannot see Giggs being sold, and if he were, then Duff would be the one. However I still cannot see it happening. His funny form season in my mind is because of the lack of competition, what with poor old Fortune being out with a broken leg and all. However, a fully fit Fortune only places a slight pressure on Giggs, not a full one. This has been lacking since Blomqvist was so unfortunatly injured in 99, he did give Giggs a good kick up the arse, because although not quite in the same class, could effectively replace him.

So, Harry Kewell - yes, could do a similar job to Blomqvist. But he will not come to us to understudy Giggs. Damien Duff is maybe a different prospect, because he has talent but is still raw. It could do him good to understudy Giggs, but it's one hell of an asking price for something so raw.

No, what we need is a player that is approaching the 3/7 of his carrer and can also claim to be the equal of Giggs. Put Giggs on the bench. I have no doubt that Giggs would win, which is good for us, but then the player I suggest could then challenge Beckham, and can also play through the middle. He could even play in the LittleRonaldo (a player that so many on this forum are in love with for no reason) role.

Imagine, the slightly flawed yet genius player that could come under SAFs wing.

25 he is, Deja Vu!
 
There is no doubting Denilson's talent but will he be able to play for SAF with his temperament, seriously doubt it. I still say go for Damien Duff
 
Originally posted by locofishbate30:
<strong>There is no doubting Denilson's talent but will he be able to play for SAF with his temperament, seriously doubt it. I still say go for Damien Duff</strong><hr></blockquote>

People said the same about Cantona
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Little Ronaldo is a different thing. He's in the Yorke category, SAF can't stand players like that, never could, that's why McGrath and Whiteside and Moran and then Yorke got the shove.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Denilson is the man I tell you! Still only 25 too! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Interesting option. He was used to great effect by Brazil as a substitute and gave some full backs a torrid time. Only worries would be:
1. Price tag
2. Wage demands
3. Do get him in as competition for Giggs and let em slug it out for the Left side spot.
4. Will he adapt quickly enough or at all. Only Wenger at the moment seems to have the knack to get his South Americans to adapt quickly. Veron and Forlan have both taken quite a while.
But definitely the right kind of talent, in theory.
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get either adraino from inter or kewell hes bound to leave leeds not with all their debts and he would want to play cl
 
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