Otamendi kicked Fred's shin, how is that not a pen?
Get rid of VAR NOW! We want our game back! (...or not, some are happy)
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Otamendi kicked Fred's shin, how is that not a pen?
You might argue that Fred would lose the ball either way there, but that doesn't change that Otamendi kicks him!
It’s either a penalty or a dive in this case.
Video ref didn't want to overrule a more senior ref and make a fool of him after he had booked Fred.
It's a blatant penalty. There's not even a question. Nowhere near the ball, kicks the man. The easiest decision for var
Whats the rule for what is reviewed by VAR or not? Utterly ridiculous decision that Fred get a yellow when there is clear contact.
Is there a single game where Mike Dean somehow does not steal the limelight? That fecking cnut has about much reffing talent as he has hair
Is there a single game where Mike Dean somehow does not steal the limelight? That fecking cnut has about much reffing talent as he has hair
They didn’t even check the one on AWB, feckin useless trying to protect his majesty Dean.
nah, it's either a penalty or not enough foul for a pen.
not every contact is a foul, but surely not a dive.
but never a decision for VAR, because not a clear error.
Clear and obvious error.
Knowing how much of a tosser the guy is this would not surprise me at all. Especially as he strode so purposefully to give the yellow in a 'look how smart I am to spot a dive' type fashion.
This. Its not vars fault its the pussy behind the screen afraid to over rule the most senior ref. Thats why the screen should be used.
:Hey Mike i think that could be a pen, go and look at it"
Problem solved
We’ve had some terrific decisions this season from VAR.
Sadly, today isn’t one of them. Clear and obvious decision, wrong. Mike Dean and his assistants will be watching that one back and hopefully will hold us in good stead for the 2nd half.
It‘s one thing to get it wrong on the pitch, but with replays and slow motion, how did an entire team of VAR refs get it wrong?
Sadly, today isn’t one of them. Clear and obvious decision, wrong. Mike Dean and his assistants will be watching that one back and hopefully will hold us in good stead for the 2nd half.
It‘s one thing to get it wrong on the pitch, but with replays and slow motion, how did an entire team of VAR refs get it wrong?
How does VAR not see that as a complete mistake by the on field Ref and over rule it? It's clear there is contact. It's clear that Mike Riley things there is absolutely no contact that's why he books Fred for diving. If this does not get overruled then what's the point of even looking at penalty decisions.
Absolutely ludicrous decision there. How do you justify that?
Two errors. One error validated by the second.
We have had NO fifty fifty calls this year.
Penalties against Palace/Castle/City/Arsenal not given even though they were blatant.
Everton fecking battered de Gea. Sheff United caught it in the build up to one goal. Was that the same game Jones was just pushed over without any repercussions?
if the VAR was used correctly... we’d be second.
Penalties against Palace/Castle/City/Arsenal not given even though they were blatant.
Everton fecking battered de Gea. Sheff United caught it in the build up to one goal. Was that the same game Jones was just pushed over without any repercussions?
if the VAR was used correctly... we’d be second.
Yes, probably. But hard to tell imo. You don't see he is tripped do you? One would assume he is but not clear and obvious to me, anyway.
It’s being applied as and when they like. That makes it worse than not having it at all. Load of balls.
Penalty. We go two up. City commit further forward and we score again. 3-0.
Corrupt refereeing clearly there.
Refs being buddy buddy, protecting themselves
Refs being buddy buddy, protecting themselves
He wasn't kicked hard enough apparently. fecking hell.
fecking hell.Let me ask you folk, if Mike Dean has awarded a penalty for that, would VAR have overturned it?
Yeah, people will say it's bias but no team gets fecked over in normal play incidents more than United and that's not considering the calls that go to var.
On SSN now "degree of contact not sufficient to go down" hence why no penalty.
fecking joke. I'm livid!!
fecking joke. I'm livid!!
Apparently they say the contact wasn’t enough for it to be a pen..did I hear that correctly?
So VAR Is just deciding what’s enough contact & what isn’t..
Hmm dangerous route to be going down
So VAR Is just deciding what’s enough contact & what isn’t..
Hmm dangerous route to be going down
At the very least the yellow card should have been rescinded. Imagine fred gets sent of nowHe wasn't kicked hard enough apparently.
feck off. I’m fuming. These people are a joke.
They probably have clear instructions to not undermine any of the 90-year-old looking cnuts decision or else it would show how incompetent that idiot is, if they have to revoke 10 of his decision every game.
Yip. It's going to be interesting if that happens. It has an effect on the game either way as he has to hold back a bit and won't be able to commit cynical fouls to stop counters as City themselves love to do.
Exactly since SAF has retired we have been shafted like no other team, it’s a joke.
Go home VAR, you're drunk
We should've had two penalties in that half. VAR hasn't even bothered checking either.
Instead, Fred has to play the entire second half on a caution. Joke.
Instead, Fred has to play the entire second half on a caution. Joke.
VARspiracy. Just shite refereeing.
VAR either needs to go altogether or VAR needs to review every decision by the head ref. There is no accountability for the way it’s handled now.
I can understand someone saying it isn't a penalty because the contact wasn't enough (that's a subjective opinion after all) but it's definitely more of a penalty than it is a dive & card. Plus other penalties do get given for slight contact, so it really just depends on who's looking.
I suspect that if the penalty had been given it wouldn't have been overturned either.
I suspect that if the penalty had been given it wouldn't have been overturned either.
All this “it’s not VARs fault the people behind it are useless” nonsense has to stop. The people behind it are VAR, and they and it are fecking garbage and need to be fecked off out of the game immediately.
Tbf, thats a perfectably fair argument. Not all contacts in the penalty area is a penalty.
This was debatable so not a clear and obviuos error. He did go down easy. Could have been given also.
The pathetic thing is Mike Dean strutting forward on his chicken legs with a yellow card. Hope that is rescinded.
Hate the situation with the City offside goal from a defender's and goalie's point of view.
Yes, you should play to the whistle but there's players out there who have been playing 25 years or more in organised football and when the flag goes up have never seen anything but offside given by the ref. Now it might be or might not be so it's hard not to stop playing.
Linesman also shouldn't be putting his flag up anymore unless it's clear and that was somewhat close. Mind you, it's also habit for them and a hard one to break. Good job he got it right and VAR confirmed it rather than overruling him or we'd have all been livid.
Yes, you should play to the whistle but there's players out there who have been playing 25 years or more in organised football and when the flag goes up have never seen anything but offside given by the ref. Now it might be or might not be so it's hard not to stop playing.
Linesman also shouldn't be putting his flag up anymore unless it's clear and that was somewhat close. Mind you, it's also habit for them and a hard one to break. Good job he got it right and VAR confirmed it rather than overruling him or we'd have all been livid.
Just wanna point out that the linesman gave Aguero offside for a toenail without the use of VAR to crash the illusion of a pre VAR eutopia