Go check Evertons goal at Old Trafford earlier in the season, karma if you ask me.
Get rid of VAR NOW! We want our game back! (...or not, some are happy)
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How can it not be offisde?
He made a movement that directly interferes with the play. If he stays still the ball hits him and doesn’t go in and then he is offside that’s how I am interpreting it
He made a movement that directly interferes with the play. If he stays still the ball hits him and doesn’t go in and then he is offside that’s how I am interpreting it
I suspect referees and linesmen are reluctant to make decisions now as they know VAR will look at it anyway! I suspect in the days prior to VAR the offside would have been given by the ref/lino anyway!
De Gea had gone the other way so he wasn’t getting to it anyway. For the actual decision Siggurdson was literally on the floor so I don’t buy that DDG was being obstructed. Sorry but if that had gone against us I’d be so angry.
I think I agree. Sigurdson moved over the ball too. VAR is fine, good even, it ads to the excitement.
Because it came off Lindelof I always was under the impression if the ball came off your own player then offside is basically a non factor
Hes offside from the shot
Nothing prevented De Gea from jumping for the ball beside his judgement. His vision wasn’t obstructed nor was he being prevented to move. I have to admit this, but Everton was robbed.
But, it is like ufc. If you don’t knockout the opposition, you can’t complain much. Sigurdsson should have scored from the flick of by Richarlerson. He had the whole net to aim at. That chance was easier than a penalty kick.
But, it is like ufc. If you don’t knockout the opposition, you can’t complain much. Sigurdsson should have scored from the flick of by Richarlerson. He had the whole net to aim at. That chance was easier than a penalty kick.
He’s not interfering with play imo. De Gea wasn’t saving that.
It's only if the ball originally moves goalwards from a defender that offside isn't a factor, like a passback or scuffed clearance. It would be mental if you couldn't be offside from deflected passes and shots
He should be allowed to chin the cnut now.
If you let that be onside, you get players falling over and lying on the ground near the GK, which would distract me if I was in nets.
Therefore, for general common sense...
And they tweaked the rule slightly isn't it?
Therefore, for general common sense...
And they tweaked the rule slightly isn't it?
This logic makes zero sense whatsoever.
That was a proper goal, De gea had clear view of the ball his vision wasn't obstructed by the player who also didnt touch the ball change its course or anything.
If it was the other way round and they disallowed us that goal we would be mad.
If it was the other way round and they disallowed us that goal we would be mad.
Then the rules are stupid. It would have been a goal anyway had he not been in that position so in my opinion it doesn’t influence the outcome. I would be angry if it was at the other end of the pitch.
I think that decision was the correct one as far as the rules go.
It's unlucky for Everton because if Sigurdsson is not there then it's almost certainly a goal due to the deflection. I'd understand the frustration from their fans, but ultimately the right decision.
It's unlucky for Everton because if Sigurdsson is not there then it's almost certainly a goal due to the deflection. I'd understand the frustration from their fans, but ultimately the right decision.
Hes offside. You dont need the keeper making a save for it to be off.
Him lifting his legs to let it through is interfering in play imo.
Him lifting his legs to let it through is interfering in play imo.
The only reason De Gea moved to his right was because the other half of the goal was blocked by Sigurdsson's picnic.
If you're in an offside position and possibly influencing the decision-making of the goalkeeper, you're offside.
Still hate VAR though.
If you're in an offside position and possibly influencing the decision-making of the goalkeeper, you're offside.
Still hate VAR though.
Is there stats on this? We must be the biggest beneficiaries of VAR by a country mile.
Feels like something goes our way every week.
Feels like something goes our way every week.
This decision has nothing to do with VAR. The assistant referee would have disallowed that if there was no VAR anyway.
Half of you are stark raving fecking mad with how you want football to be played.
He's clearly in the way but claiming De Gea's vision was obstructed is quite a stretch I think. But I have to be honest, I'm not sure how the rule is worded exactly.
Correct decision to disallow the goal. If I was in the Everton dressing room I'd be fecking livid at Sigurdsson for just sitting there offside like a lemon.
Exactly he’s interfering & clearly the goal should be disallowed.
How is this even controversial?
Exactly. It is as simple as that
I'm sure you would be angry. You would also be wrong. You can't expect the game to be reffed as per rules you've made up in your head.
The ball was on the floor all the time and so was the player that was sitting in front of De Gea during the shot, how can he have a complete view of the ball?!!
Anyone who says it's a goal and not offside has little to no knowledge of the rules of the game
VAR has been a fantastic addition overall and thankfully yet again a clear error has been rectified today
VAR has been a fantastic addition overall and thankfully yet again a clear error has been rectified today
Don't think that gets overturned the other way.. you'd like to think trapped in their little replay room they'd be removed from the pressures of a decision like that but unfortunately not it seems.
We would be mad but we wouldn't be right
We must be +10 points this season thanks to var. But yeah, let’s continue being quasi horrified with var.
Balls it adds to the excitement.
Think of all the goals down the years that we wouldn't have been able to celebrate properly as soon as they were scored.
It ruins the game as far as I'm concerned
Was De Gea's ability to make a save affected in any way by Sigurdsson? I dont think so.
Take out VAR and then what ? The ref still gives that stupid handball and you still concede the goal (that only happened in your head btw).
As harsh as it feels for Everton, i think it's the right decision, DCL is not obstructing DeGea's view but just being there is enough to interfere and play on his mind.
It's as clear an obstruction as you could see. Sigurdsson was offside, sat in front of De Gea, obstructing his line of sight & even moved his legs out of the way to allow the ball to pass into the net.
How there is such a debate is beyond me.
How there is such a debate is beyond me.
How does he have a clear view when Gylfi literally has to move his legs to get out the way?
He obviously doesn't have 100% site of the ball the entire way.
That's some made up rule you have come up with though. The rule is general, did Sigurdson interfere with the play ? Yes or no ? If he did (by moving) then it's offside. DDG not saving it isn't the issue at all here
Because people base their opinion on something else than the simple rule here. It sucks to be offside like this but it doesn't make it the wrong decision
Most honest post in that thread
Mental that so many people don't know the rules and are raging at VAR for making the right decision.