As a club player he is excellent on his day, inspirational sometimes but equating him with a player like Robson who was world class and proved it many times in an England shirt no way.
Now Dalglish was a world class Liverpool player.
Gerrard - the most complete player in Premier League history?
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As a club player he is excellent on his day, inspirational sometimes but equating him with a player like Robson who was world class and proved it many times in an England shirt no way.
Now Dalglish was a world class Liverpool player.
Well guaged pass: Rooney didnt play his best game today yet he let out two crossfield deliveries that almost stopped at Ronaldo's feet on the right. Let Gerrard do something remotedly good of that kind and you lot can wank over his passing range then.
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Only Torres in their team can control Gerrard's passes. He has no sense or control over how hard he hits the ball.
And Souness was a world class Liverpool midfield player. Gerrard isn't.
Correct!
Capello has already figured out the imposter.
Its only a matter of time before he grabs Gerrard's collar.
What, by playing him behind the striker where his main role is to shoot, dribbler and play through balls?
Oh yeah, he's really found him out and that really goes along with your idea he can't dribble and doesn't have vision...
Gerrard can only shoot, cannot figure out what you mean by dribbling.Like all other physical players he uses his acceleration to go past his marker but it happens only at times. His through balls comes only once in a blue moon in the internationals although majority of them are hit with no guile or precision.
If Capello plays Gerrard in a free role behind the striker,
1. He should do that at the expense of Rooney by replacing Rooney with Gerrard...unlikely to happen.
OR
2. Rooney playing as a lone forward with Gerrard playing from behind, definitely not Rooney's best position, compromising the best England attacker to accomodate a plonker...shades of WC 2006.
Even when played behind the striker Gerrard usually carries on his blind alley runnings almost every other week for Liverpool yet manages to score some goals in the premiership. In the internationals his movements would get scrutinzed to a large extent and he would eventually come out as shite, even if he can manage to find the net.
3. Its also unlikely that Capello would choose him ahead of either Walcott or Joe Cole albeit with lesser reputation both have delivered for England than Gerrard has ever done in the recent years.
4. The final choice would be play Gerrard and Carrick in the MIDFIELD, had it been either SCS or Sven they would've went to that extent, not to expect from some one of Capello's stature.
1. Won't happen.
2. A possibility, but I doubt it'll happen.
3. Of course he'd pick him ahead of either of those two.
4. Most likely won't happen unless it's an emergency.
He could just play the 4-3-2-1 he played in the last match Gerrard played, with Rooney and Gerrard behind Heskey. It worked well.
Lampard's a better player than Gerrard, yes?
Wrong.
For me a complete midfielder needs to know how to control the eb and flow of a game. Gerrard has yet to master this art. He may as his legs start to go and he has to change his game a bit.
I think though, to be fair, he's had the most potential I've seen of any player. If he had teh guidance of a world class manager such as a Ferguson or a Shankley, he'd probably he remembered as one of the best.
Unfortunately for him, he's had two clueless managers, who have seen his style as more of a burden than a giftl.
I think though, to be fair, he's had the most potential I've seen of any player. If he had teh guidance of a world class manager such as a Ferguson or a Shankley, he'd probably he remembered as one of the best.
Unfortunately for him, he's had two clueless managers, who have seen his style as more of a burden than a giftl.
There are two Villa players who would beg to differ.
Gerrard is one of the most complete players in the Premiership currently. Anyone who thinks otherwise is too bitter to accept the truth.
Gerrard is shit.
Jack of all trades, master of none. Pretty adequately describes Stevie G.
You're a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime..
Lampard is a better midfielder than Gerrard, so are many others like Carrick.
Lampard is not a better midfielder.
Gerrard is hated on here, but it doesnt mean you cant admit hes an amazing player.
The damage was started by Houllier, he played Gerrard in the CM, the player was decent yet he made it a point to buy some sundries from the Lique to play along with him and undid his development completely.
When Benetiz stepped in, the damage was complete, Gerrard was the only player who had something in him to win a game and he towed the line playing him in a free role behind the striker or on right side. An inflated typical flat track bully performance in the CL final only compounded the hype nevertheless he also flogs him often by substituting him even when they need goals.
Good player..true but certainly not any where near the best.
Lampard is not a better midfielder.
Gerrard is hated on here, but it doesnt mean you cant admit hes an amazing player.
For the start Gerrard is not a midfielder at all. Try reading the thread from the first page and drag out some posts if you wanna contradict than lettin out an one liner.
Gerrard is never an amazing player outside the Scouse clique
If you wanna look for amazing footballers there are atleast 10-15 footballers in Europe worth having a look at.
How would you define a midfielder?
One who has played there all of their career.
So you reckon Gerrard plays a midfielder for Liverpool!
Where does Alonso and Mascherano play then?
He's not even in the top 3 CMs (Keano, Scholes, Viera)
Even if those three are taken out, Gerrard as a midfielder is utter wank compared to the likes of Fabregas, Ballack, Alonso, Anderson, Lampard, Essien or Carrick.
There are hell lot of limited footballers Butt, Makelele, Mascherano, Hamman, Gilberto albeit being limited can maintian the foothold in the midfield..read the game well, win the ball and pass it on to creative players. Gerrard cannot even do that it reflects in all failed midfield partnerships through out his career either with an attacking or a defensive central midfielder - He can neither win the ball cleanly nor can read the game, even if we choose to ignore his lack of distribution skills from deep.
He has a good engine, physical presence can score goals, it compounds the hype, overrated as a forward and rubbish as a midfielder.
I would take Essien any day. I can understand scousers loving him since he's local, he's come up with some crunch goals to bail them out etc. But really, he's not even the best midfielder at the moment.
That's possibly because Torres is one of the few players in the Liverpool squad with more than a reasonable amount of technical ability.
Vieira > Gerrard
Aye, and the same applies to Keane and Robson, yet Gerrard's clearly excellent at what he does.
I would take Cesc over him too.
Cesc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bag of honey roasted walnuts
Cesc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bag of honey roasted walnuts
They really do talk a lot of wank don't they ?
Its hard to correlate excellence with whatever he had done so far on the pitch alone.
what does he do?
Doubt that, if Cole, Walcott and Gerrard are fit, Gerrard only has 33.33333% chance of selecting himself in and only 10% chance of completing the match without being subbed.
Sticks out of that list like a sore thumb.
Can't have a thread where we have people saying 'the scousers exaggerate how good he is etc' and have United fans listing Anderson as a player who makes Gerrard look like utter wank in midfield. Lets be realistic.
Missed him massively today. Good.
Whatever the scousers didn't do today.
I don't think Vijay does realistic.
When it comes to being objective about United players he seems to struggle. Just a tad.
Did some guy honestly compare Gerrard to Cruyff by saying that Cruyff didn't have a right foot? The guy was two footed with his right being the stronger.
I mean if you don't even know that about a player who was undoubtably one of the greatest to ever play the game then how anyone can begin to take your opinion even rometely serious i'll never know.
I mean if you don't even know that about a player who was undoubtably one of the greatest to ever play the game then how anyone can begin to take your opinion even rometely serious i'll never know.
Although this season he aint that good, the Brazilian national hero did have Gerrard in his back pocket not long back The point here is atleast Anderson is a proper midfielder in making unlike Gerrard.
For the start Anderson can deliver in a two man midfield with Carrick and has done that for Brazil. As for Gerrard we need to rewind back Houllier's days when he was a decent midfielder.