Again the CL is the only competition where Bundesliga and EPL clubs face off. How else do you want to compare the strength?
It should rather read....if United had a halfway capable management they would have spend the roughly 1 billion Euro over the last 8 years more wisely, hired coaches that actually suit the strength of your players and had developed a clear ay to play football. Then I am sure Man United would have a few trophies more.
The CL is the only competition where German teams face English teams. Or do you want to extend this to the national teams? Doesn't look that good for you guys there either.
It's a slightly different situation in the EPL than it is in the Bundesliga, though. United used to have the pick of the bunch (a lot like Bayern do now) but added competition in terms of financing and the departure of Fergie has scaled back United's ability to dominate its domestic market. We'd all love it if we still had a Bayern-equivalent situation here, make no mistake.
I didn't care one bit which club this forum belongs to. Could've been a Burnley board and I would still have joined. You think we joined since this is a United forum?
Close the general football section and you are rid of us in no time. The reason so many of us are here is because this forum is the closest thing to a international football forum there is. Some of the things discussed in here can't be discussed in any other forum I know, German or English. Direct me towards a 'neutral' football forum with so many users and you don't have to worry about this defensive Bundesliga fan anymore. You know, it's not like I enjoy United fans saying the weirdest stuff you can think of and answering 'this is a United forum, leave if you don't like our biases' when you point out they're objectively wrong.
For many local users in here, partizanship is more important than facts, that's the real reason for all the dicscussions with Bundesliga fans. Simple as that.
Orkut as well, fans of every club going at each other You think we joined since this is a United forum?
Close the general football section and you are rid of us in no time. The reason so many of us are here is because this forum is the closest thing to a international football forum there is. Some of the things discussed in here can't be discussed in any other forum I know, German or English. Direct me towards a 'neutral' football forum with so many users and you don't have to worry about this defensive Bundesliga fan anymore. You know, it's not like I enjoy United fans saying the weirdest stuff you can think of and answering 'this is a United forum, leave if you don't like our biases' when you point out they're objectively wrong.
For many local users in here, partizanship is more important than facts, that's the real reason for all the dicscussions with Bundesliga fans. Simple as that.
That's a bit cocksure of you, and not entirely fair. Both sets of fans are capable of spouting nonsense so let's not go the route of presuming one set of fans allows bias to influence their opinions more than others!You think we joined since this is a United forum?
Close the general football section and you are rid of us in no time. The reason so many of us are here is because this forum is the closest thing to a international football forum there is. Some of the things discussed in here can't be discussed in any other forum I know, German or English. Direct me towards a 'neutral' football forum with so many users and you don't have to worry about this defensive Bundesliga fan anymore. You know, it's not like I enjoy United fans saying the weirdest stuff you can think of and answering 'this is a United forum, leave if you don't like our biases' when you point out they're objectively wrong.
For many local users in here, partizanship is more important than facts, that's the real reason for all the dicscussions with Bundesliga fans. Simple as that.
What a strange reply to someone saying ‘I’ll give you valid response’ someone’s got under your skin I think.
Can you tell me if I found my new job harder than my old one please? If I do find it harder will you be offended?
When a manager leaves Germany, he isnt a Bundesliga manager anymore ffs!
That's quite possible to be fair, I tend to avert my eyes when the slinging of shit begins to start. I'll admit that there does seem to be an unfortunate amount of vitriol at times and like you said often it's all rather cringey. I'm convinced that the toxicity of social media has bled into all corners of the internet and has left us much worse off. Maybe it's compounded by the global feckpie and making people a bit crankier..? Regardless, it'll be a big shame if people are increasingly pushed away from the forum. Hope you stick around for awhile yet.
But the fact is they have moved to England. That quality has left your league and they are taking their talent to England and enhanced it. From the day they leave they have nothing more to do with the Bundesliga. Even then Tuchel has achieved what exactly? What German elite is even in England apart fron Klopp?
You haven’t made any, you started this conversation with me, not addressing anything I said other than ‘You think we joined because it’s a Manchester United forum’ which I responded to by explaining to you that I didn’t say that.
You still won’t answer the question which I’ve asked 3 times - Is it okay if I find my new job more difficult than my old one, and if I do, is that okay with you?
Feel like I’m talking to Boris Johnson.
Mate, if you want to troll you have to up your game.
Absolute class post. Very true. I think German football is better coached, managed and run. I think the English league has the better players.
Did you feel the same way during the first game which was a complete tactical shambles, or does that not fit your narrative?
You heard of the Europa league? German teams are awful in it. Only once has a German side made it to the semi finals since 2010, they lost to an English side, which is an awful record. The last German team to win it was 1997, I didn’t expect them to be great in it but that is absolutely terrible for a top league. It’s not even very good teams for a european competition that tend to put them out clubs that have a much smaller budget than bundesliga sides regularly seem to knock them out.
They probably make them in the same factory. It's hilarious how defensive they all get, as if this isn't a forum about an English team from the English Premier League.
Bundesliga arguably has the best managers in the world, on average. The current dominant playing styles and major tactical evolutions come from there
