Ummm, how and when?
Gerard Piqué
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Its on fellas....
Well Bilbao are so terrible this season....no european football next season looks already very likely for them and he'll leave...Barca are the favourites i reckon for him
Edit: Oh yeah Barca have a transfer ban
How come you know about transfers even barca fan are unaware of
I don't think we can buy anyone for next 1.5 yrs.
Pique on Keano:
Better than Evans when he left, has been better than Evans since he left, is definitely better than Evans now.
You would be mad to turn your nose up at him if the opportunity arose to sign him.
You would be mad to turn your nose up at him if the opportunity arose to sign him.
Shakira.I have nothing else to add to this thread.
Get him signed sharpish and sell sicknote Evans
I know it was never going to happen but when we got Van Gaal there were rumours(I think)of Xavi thinking about joining us.
Can you image
.He's better than Evans by far, but people will tell you that you only rate Pique because he's foreign, you're not a real fan etc
I suppose anything can happen with Pique - he's won every trophy imaginable for both club and country, so he may be looking for a new (or old) adventure.
Liked Pique always since he was playing in our youth teams, but he has been really playing very bad for some time now. He's still better than anything we have and is great at passing, but still very unsure that it would be a good buy (assuming that Barca want to sell).
Pique - Rojo on paper is a pretty good partnership. Ball player and reader of the game beside a more physical defender. Don't think either of them are much of a leader from the back, which is something I think LvG will go for.
Wouldn't be my first choice, but we need defenders. I do think a lot depends on how far Jones can progress this season, and how well Rojo beds in and kicks on.
Really warming to the idea, Has history with the club, has an amazing misses, the only defender of his potential calible at the right age range. and has that "stalled in his career slightly, needs a change of scenery" vibe about him. I think he would be a real gem for us.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gerard-pique-barcelona-crisis-talks-4606113
Obviously has to be taken with a huge pinch of salt but I would take him in a heartbeat. Much better than the pile of dross we currently have (yes I'm looking at the three crooks that spend more time in the operation theatre than on the football field).
Obviously has to be taken with a huge pinch of salt but I would take him in a heartbeat. Much better than the pile of dross we currently have (yes I'm looking at the three crooks that spend more time in the operation theatre than on the football field).
Seems to enjoy gambling and the celebrity lifestyle more then playing football these days.
Not a player I'm that bothered about to be honest.
Looked good in a great side but it's questionable how hard that is when you have one of the worlds greatest midfields infront retaining the ball 80% of the time. Mascherano shows you don't have to be Beckenbaur to succeed there.
Think his lack of pace could be a big deal in the PL. He's a decent player but you've got to ask why he's suddenly not in favour at Barca anymore.
Looked good in a great side but it's questionable how hard that is when you have one of the worlds greatest midfields infront retaining the ball 80% of the time. Mascherano shows you don't have to be Beckenbaur to succeed there.
Think his lack of pace could be a big deal in the PL. He's a decent player but you've got to ask why he's suddenly not in favour at Barca anymore.
Shakira Shakira!
I think the hype of him being on the wane is a bit overblown. He would work well at OT - especially with the existing Spanish speaking contingent already present.
He needs the right partner. He's a great talent at the back, but Puyol used to lead him through games.
He's a great player, but we need a leader/organiser at the back more importantly.
If he was available though, we'd be stupid not to be interested.
He's a great player, but we need a leader/organiser at the back more importantly.
If he was available though, we'd be stupid not to be interested.
Far better than what we have, confident on the ball and used to playing in a great team. Put him alongside Ron Vlaar and we're sorted.
He wasn't suited to BPL ideally at his best and now has declined a bit as well.
He could be useful if used properly but don't think he solves our issues at the back except if he doesn't get injured.
Also the main Thing is we need a leader and a Strong commanding center back more at the back ourselves. Not another one who has to be lead.
He could be useful if used properly but don't think he solves our issues at the back except if he doesn't get injured.
Also the main Thing is we need a leader and a Strong commanding center back more at the back ourselves. Not another one who has to be lead.
Take him in a heartbeat if he was available, heard something about Pep looking to bring him to Munich, they dont need him at all, but if they do, Dante or Badstuber if were desperate
I'd take him over any of our shite but for the money they'd probably look for him we should look else where.
He's not in favour because he's been inconsistent since at least the start of last season, probably longer. Don't think the lack of control is that key though, he was brilliant at defending in high risk situations at his best, it does him a disservice to say it was down to the system. It would have been difficult as hell for a player with Piqué's lack of pace to fit into that high line.
Also not sure what the Mascherano nonsense is about. He was a brilliant centre back for them when they controlled games and he's still a rock now they had a pretty average midfield. He has his limitations, mainly dealing with long balls over the top, but no centre back is without flaws.
+ some spanish football journalists are thinking he has lost the motivation/love for football and Luis Enrique isn't a fan of him
Well to be fair playing CB is the most boring position on the pitch (excl GK) and he's already won everything possible as a player even a Premier League and CL title with United.
Then he should joins us....it's never boring in our defence
And to be honest a top top player wants to win more more more more trophies
But Pique must leave Barcelona (The rumours that he has lost a bit the motivation are probably true) to find the new motivation in his career
I just don't think he was ever the player he was made out to be, rather than being on the wane necessarily.
He seems decent with the ball and very neat and tidy but didn't really have to actually defend that much most of the time for Barca when they were dominating teams with possession.
I think it's no coincidence that the decline of certain players for club and country seems to have exposed his limitations.
I find him massively overrated.
I wouldn't want him back, even with our defensive issues. He's become so complacent, he doesn't seem to read the danger and barely breaks into a sweat when he has to close down his man.
How's he played this season?
Mind's hazy, i can't really remember how he played for us. He was excellent for Barca for a spell though.
Mind's hazy, i can't really remember how he played for us. He was excellent for Barca for a spell though.
Same here.
He looks totally unmotivated when I've seen him over the last 18 months, I don't think he's what we need.
He has always been massively overrated and it's obvious that he was made to look a whole lot better than he actually is, due to the great club and international teams that he played for.
He is better than what we have, but that's really not saying much. He would need a player of Vidic' ilk to play alongside him, in order to see the best of him.
He is better than what we have, but that's really not saying much. He would need a player of Vidic' ilk to play alongside him, in order to see the best of him.
Lets not forget that he was blamed for the 1-0 loss at Bolton the season before he left and that one of the few matches he played from start. Pique and Evans were our 'reserves' then and it was obvious Fergie was looking to lose one of them. Evans was looking the more solid at that time and we had little idea what a sick note he'd become.
Whilst not too solid a defender Pique is certainly a cultured one and whilst we still need a Vidiv, Bruce, Stam type clone, he could definitely be useful to us. I doubt, though, he'd be willing to be a bit part squad player again.
Whilst not too solid a defender Pique is certainly a cultured one and whilst we still need a Vidiv, Bruce, Stam type clone, he could definitely be useful to us. I doubt, though, he'd be willing to be a bit part squad player again.
What the "Mascherano nonsense" is about is that you can take a good defensive midfield player, but not a great centre back, and deploy him in that system with a truly great possession midfield and it works. I suspect it wouldn't have worked as well elsewhere with different players and a different system.
Piqué was loved because he's a ball player and looks tidy. That makes him look composed but it seems that now he hasn't got as great a midfield in front and the system isn't as all conquering as it was before he's suddenly struggling, to the extent that the manager doesn't fancy him.
For me, top PL defenders need either pace, dominating physicality or an ability to manage a defence and read a game superbly. I don't see any of those in Piqué. I agree with what was posted above - he seems to need to be kept right by someone next to him - as was seen in the World Cup when him and Ramos looked all over the place.
It's easier for players to look good in truly great sides, and that could be the case here. I think how highly rated he seems to be highlights a lack of truly great centre backs around at the moment. Defending seems tine becoming a lost art.
Signing Barcelona reject...
This would be my concern in bringing him back. He hasn't looked the same player since he started dating Shakira in all honesty (cue responses of ' bet it would distract you
' etc.). He seems to be more of a regular at Poker tables these days. On his day though he is an excellent defender and would certainly help us. We don't have a CB who can read the game directly like Pique can, Plus he would instantly be our best on the ball CB to. The pace thing is being overblown here, You just have to look at the likes of John Terry \ Cahill and Mertesacker for example. They are not the quickest however the way they read the game makes up for this fact.
For what it's worth I don't think Shakira would be interested in moving to Manchester, London she could probably persevere with but Manchester im not so sure. This is all subjective of course as I don't personally know her.