Gattuso or Baraja?
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I was one of the first admirers of the Irish international (got insulted when I said that I would play him ahead of Laurent Blanc). But I think that John’s role should be in the defense. His defensive skills are still a bit raw but shows immense class while his attacking capabilities reminds me a lot of Thuram. A full back role is tailor made for such a great talent which defensive and attacking capabilities are simply classy. If groomed well John O Shea will turn in the next Thuram and Maldini
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>I was one of the first admirers of the Irish international (got insulted when I said that I would play him ahead of Laurent Blanc). But I think that John’s role should be in the defense. His defensive skills are still a bit raw but shows immense class while his attacking capabilities reminds me a lot of Thuram. A full back role is tailor made for such a great talent which defensive and attacking capabilities are simply classy. If groomed well John O Shea will turn in the next Thuram and Maldini</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know how you felt - I chatted with the 2 ex-Nationwide English professionals now playing for my club early last season & told them to watch out for O'Shea & mentioned I felt that he would be the new home-grown superstar for Utd - they looked at me in amazement & with 'tat-tat' <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> kind of gestures.
Now when they see me, they bow their heads & put up their hands & admit I was all the time right & they were wrong!
And thus I'm going to make another bold assessment - O'Shea will end up in Keano's position - I said it after the Burnly game & nothing has changed my mind!
However, I'm sure he'll be pretty swell in whatever position he finds himself in!
Originally posted by kkcbl:
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I know how you felt - I chatted with the 2 ex-Nationwide English professionals now playing for my club early last season & told them to watch out for O'Shea & mentioned I felt that he would be the new home-grown superstar for Utd - they looked at me in amazement & with 'tat-tat' <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> kind of gestures.
Now when they see me, they bow their heads & put up their hands & admit I was all the time right & they were wrong!
And thus I'm going to make another bold assessment - O'Shea will end up in Keano's position - I said it after the Burnly game & nothing has changed my mind!
However, I'm sure he'll be pretty swell in whatever position he finds himself in!
may we meet again and tell you "For God sake you were fecking right" But I think John will be a fantastic defender but not a defensive midfielder.
But I would be happy if I am mistaking on that
We can find so many defensive midfielders in the premiership who can be as effective as Gattuso.Viera is more of a defensive midfielder who can attack but nowhere near Keane interms of playmaking or attacking abilities. Baraja might be the right choice as he is the perfect box-box player like Keane.
Iam not underestimating Viera.Currently he is the best player in England.You are not getting my point <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />
Originally posted by Plechazunga:
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Oh. Okay, my mistake. For some reason I got the impression you were saying that Vieira was more of a defensive midfielder who can attack but is nowhere near Keane in terms of playmaking or attacking abilities, which would've been false. But in that case, I take it all back...
Keane and Viera are two of the most complete footballers in world football.Keane ,superb tackler,has a tremendous engine,has great passing range and is a real box-to-box player.His hard tackling ball winning skills in midfield are class with his never give up attitude and inspirational leadership.He is also a playmaker with the ability to pass long or short with the ability to break into the box, or move out wide.Overall Keane=attacking/defensive player,who has the energy to go box-to-box for ninety minutes and link defence, midfield and attack.Viera is also a great player,total footballer like Keane but I think Keane is better than Viera.That dosen't mean Iam underestimating Viera.
Hmm. Suspect we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Though for the record, you keep contradicting yourself (eg Vieira both best player in England and not as good as Keane), and also talking bollocks (eg Vieira not being an "attacking/defensive" midfielder like Keano, but a "defensive midfielder who can attack"). And also you can't spell Vieira. Still, such trivialities shouldn't be allowed to come between two UTD fans who clearly love Keano to the heavens. And I agree with you that Baraja would be a great buy, though I seem to have got the wrong idea about what kind of player he was...didn't know he was box-to-box or could tackle, but if he can he really is perfect.
Never seen Nicky stepping up a level to become a top star, especially in Europe, he never seems to take control of games against top opposition.
Gattuso for me
gattuso, we don't need yet another creative central midfielder playing 4-5-1 when we already have scholes and veron, just one who knows his role and plays the ball to them while protecting our defence