Gary Neville at RB? No Way!

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>He is a better CH than RB, doesn't necessarily mean he is the best around.
Your pathetic attempts in trying to justify your opinion by quoting ferguson and eriksson is laughable.</strong><hr></blockquote>

When did i quote Fergoe or sven <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Ive allready pointed out 2 games where he played poorly at CB, show me your not talking out of your arse and show me otherwise.
Imo youve just come to this conclusion because Gary Neville fuched up last saturday and in all your wisdom you think a change of position is the cure. The odd fuch up isnt going to be cured by a change of position, a good match preperation, focus and sleep are whats needed.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Great at RB?

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Did you watch last Sat's derby with your blinkered specs on?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What about Rio, RVN, Larry, Phil, Ryan, JV. They were all crap on saturday, are they shithouse? That was 1 game and most of them were poor. Grab a brain Ichy.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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When did i quote Fergoe or sven <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Ive allready pointed out 2 games where he played poorly at CB, show me your not talking out of your arse and show me otherwise.
Imo youve just come to this conclusion because Gary Neville fuched up last saturday and in all your wisdom you think a change of position is the cure. The odd fuch up isnt going to be cured by a change of position, a good match preperation, focus and sleep are whats needed.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Selective memory you have got eh?

I was already mentioning that Gary is a better centre-half than RB before the manchester derby so what trite are you spouting about?
 
Originally posted by OldRed1:
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What about Rio, RVN, Larry, Phil, Ryan, JV. They were all crap on saturday, are they shithouse? That was 1 game and most of them were poor. Grab a brain Ichy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's not about gary being crap, it's about his best position.

Follow the thread before you mouth off, oldred.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Selective memory you have got eh?
I was already mentioning that Gary is a better centre-half than RB before the manchester derby so what trite are you spouting about?</strong><hr></blockquote>

You said he was crap period just a few months ago and wanted him out, dont make me drag out the quotes
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Im not arguing that hes a decent cb, hes a better rb though, otherwise he wouldnt play their for club & country.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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You said he was crap period just a few months ago and wanted him out, dont make me drag out the quotes
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Im not arguing that hes a decent cb, hes a better rb though, otherwise he wouldnt play their for club & country.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If we bought a better centre-half and with the emergence of O'Shea, then out he would go but that's not a likely scenario now is that?

So you stuff your dumb quotes somewhere else.

He was playing some decent stuff at RB until somewhere at the beginning of last season where his form at that position has nose-dived quite a bit.
 
What will happen to Gaz if we buy Steven Carr?? IMO he'd lose his place to the best RB in the EPL. We need more competition in all areas not just defence and it'll probably make them concentrate that bit more so less fuk ups!
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>If we bought a better centre-half and with the emergence of O'Shea, then out he would go but that's not a likely scenario now is that?</strong><hr></blockquote>

So if we bought Chivu you wouldnt mind seeig Gary Neville being fuched out?
You also didnt want O'shea to get a look in this season, whats changed there?

My offer still stands for them quotes + some more O'Shea ones ;)
 
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>What will happen to Gaz if we buy Steven Carr?? IMO he'd lose his place to the best RB in the EPL. We need more competition in all areas not just defence and it'll probably make them concentrate that bit more so less fuk ups!</strong><hr></blockquote>

just because spurs are having one good season, it's not enough to justify carr's ability. i don't think he fits the criteria to be a full time right back at United. someone like Danny Mills maybe. Not Carr though.

Anyhow, i still think Gary is the best in that position, for Beckham's sake as well. Even Seven is picking Gary ahead of Danny in the natiional squad now.. must be a good enough backing that Gaz is the man for RB right?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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You said he was crap period just a few months ago and wanted him out, dont make me drag out the quotes
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Im not arguing that hes a decent cb, hes a better rb though, otherwise he wouldnt play their for club & country.</strong><hr></blockquote>


i remember seeing him many times at CH a couple of seasons ago.. i think he was superb at it.. he read the plays very well and didn't need so much speed, something he doesn't have anyway.

but at the current rate of pace of our oppositions' strikers are going at i doubt Gaz will make it work in CH anymore.. keep him at RB is my vote - not because he's not good, but because we need a much more solid CH.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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just because spurs are having one good season, it's not enough to justify carr's ability. i don't think he fits the criteria to be a full time right back at United. someone like Danny Mills maybe.

:eek: Becareful there. You're gonna be in trouble with a few of the lads here about your choice RB ;)
 
Originally posted by jmanu:
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Originally posted by RUnited:
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:eek: Becareful there. You're gonna be in trouble with a few of the lads here about your choice RB ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


hahaha, i've been in so much crap these past few weeks with so many lads this would not do more harm.

But anyhow, i think you misunderstood me.. i said Danny is better than Carr.. not that i wanted him here at OT.. i still think Gaz is best at it.
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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hahaha, i've been in so much crap these past few weeks with so many lads this would not do more harm.

But anyhow, i think you misunderstood me.. i said Danny is better than Carr.. not that i wanted him here at OT.. i still think Gaz is best at it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i hope you're joking about Danny being better than Carr <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Carr is a top class FB - comfortable on the ball (would never have committed anything like Danny's WC f-up or Gary's weekend blunder), quick, good positional sense and excellant going forward (neither Gary nor Danny are).
That's why Wenger is looking for him and why we should get him! He'll be gone next summer to a top side. That is for sure. Mills won't.
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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So if we bought Chivu you wouldnt mind seeig Gary Neville being fuched out?
You also didnt want O'shea to get a look in this season, whats changed there?

My offer still stands for them quotes + some more O'Shea ones ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

O'Shea's emergence is a pleasant surprise so that saves us money on one more central defender

So if someone like Chivu or Mexes comes in, well Gary better buck up or else.

All you have is a bunch of quotes - is that going to stop me from posting?
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>O'Shea's emergence is a pleasant surprise so that saves us money on one more central defender
So if someone like Chivu or Mexes comes in, well Gary better buck up or else.
All you have is a bunch of quotes - is that going to stop me from posting?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Have i ever asked you to stop posting?
I just dont like how you can slag O'Shea and Gary Neville off one minute and suddenly their good again :confused:
If chivu came and made a few unforced errors like Gary did how would you react, start all over again and want the new crowd out too?
 
Originally posted by Murt:
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Have i ever asked you to stop posting?
I just dont like how you can slag O'Shea and Gary Neville off one minute and suddenly their good again :confused:
If chivu came and made a few unforced errors like Gary did how would you react, start all over again and want the new crowd out too?</strong><hr></blockquote>

This has nothing to do with a few unenforced errors.

This has to do with the quality of a player.

If the club replaces them with a player of better quality, I would certainly not object to it - improvement is a continuous thing and nobody's place should be guaranteed at OT.
 
I believe that G Nev is a fairly good player. But I believe that O Shea and W Brown have more talent than him and on the long run they may pip his place and throw him on the bench.

I think that Manutd should stop playing players for their reputation ( more on Blanc rather then Gaz) and start playing those players who are in form and have the talent to suceed.

If O Shea do a mistake he will learn of it and grow stronger out of it. If Blanc at 37 do a mistake ( he do loads of them) wat will Manutd recover from it??
 
I'll rather have G Neville in the team anytime anyday! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
Points in favor of G Nev

1 More experienced
2 His influence in the defense
3 his communication with Becks

VERDICT G Nev is a fairly good defender. Wat he lacks in technique and Physical power he compensates it with his charisma and telepatic comunication with Becks. G Nev is a great talker wit a Red devil's heart. Unfortunately heart and charisma may not always be enough, just ask Edmundo and Goater.

Against G Nev

1 Lack of strength
2 pace
3 technique

VERDICT Gnev is not a Cafu or a R Carlos. He cannot do those elegant overlapping and can be caught single footed if bullied with strenght technique or pace. O Shea and Brown do not have such problems.

Verdict at the moment I would keep him BUT No one should be given an automatic place. If i was SAF i would try and if successful consider my options on the right flank.
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>I believe that G Nev is a fairly good player. But I believe that O Shea and W Brown have more talent than him and on the long run they may pip his place and throw him on the bench.

I think that Manutd should stop playing players for their reputation ( more on Blanc rather then Gaz) and start playing those players who are in form and have the talent to suceed.

If O Shea do a mistake he will learn of it and grow stronger out of it. If Blanc at 37 do a mistake ( he do loads of them) wat will Manutd recover from it??</strong><hr></blockquote>

If any player at OT is benched or dropped due to poor performances especially for the senior members of the first team, I'm all for it provided of course the back up adequate.

Complacency should never be tolerated.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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If any player at OT is benched or dropped due to poor performances especially for the senior members of the first team, I'm all for it provided of course the back up adequate.

Complacency should never be tolerated.</strong><hr></blockquote>

agree. both the nevilles were dropped last night. surprising? i guess not.