Evans hasnt looked nearly as good when he isnt partnered by Vidic or Ferdinand. Having said that he was very promising when playing for Sunderland, which is similar to what Cahill fans will say about him. There probably isnt a lot in it in terms of ability to defend, but Evans is the younger. Cahill is better on the ball
Gary Cahill Wants Big Club Move
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I wouldn't mind Cahill at United because he is good and it gives an extra British option but 15M for him is a little too much.
Ooh dear. Get rid of the red tinted specs, to compare Evans who has looked hapless and hopeless for the best part of a year and Cahil, a man who has come on leaps and bounds in the same period is a non starter to me.
If Evans didn't come through our ranks he wouldn't be rated as highly by us. He is a promising defender but he has admittedly struggled bit time in the said period.
Cahill is definitely ready for a move to a bigger club and frankly I am surprised Wenger didn't go for him and instead went for Koscielny or whatever his name is.
He's got a quota to fill, y'know.
He'd be Dawson and Gallas backup to be honest, unless Spurs go 3-5-2, but Bale as a wingback
He'd be Dawson and Gallas backup to be honest, unless Spurs go 3-5-2, but Bale as a wingback
Gallas has become a joke of a defender and perhaps he should be contemplating moving back to Ligue 1 or dropping down the leagues. If you saw Spurs take on Bolton at the weekend you would know what I am saying. Cahill is easily better than him at the moment.
Gallas isn't a joke of a defender, maybe a little out of form and limited by his height deficit, but I'm sure he'll come good at Spurs.
He'd be Dawson and Gallas backup to be honest, unless Spurs go 3-5-2, but Bale as a wingback
Yeh he probably would be, but he'd be third choice (realistically) with a chance of breaking into the first team. Plus he'd get plenty of opportunities because Gallas can be injury prone and is getting on a bit. Plus he's a bit of a prat.
Think given time he would be ahead of both Dawson and Gallas, he and Kaboul could end up forming a good partnership.
He'd be perfect for Spurs tbh.
There are no "red tinted specs" involved. I completely disagree with the statement that Gary Cahill is "miles ahead" of Jonny Evans, something you clearly agree with.
In no way do I think that is true, "miles ahead" would for one suggest that Cahill has more experience when he doesn't. Fair enough, not really having played for England as they have a lot of centre back options but he also barely played for the U21s as he wasn't rated highly then at all. I don't even think he has any (or much) European experience either.
Evans has been playing for Northern Ireland since he was 18, is 3 years younger than Cahill and yet has established himself at a much bigger club before him while Cahill didn't make it at Aston Villa (where they've actually changed centre back pairings a lot and brought in quite a few over the years so he certainly had his chance there). Evans on the other hand has had one the best centre back pairings in the world to contend a place for with in Vidic and Ferdinand, and at one point I even remember most on here saying that Ferdinand will not get his place back easily etc when he was suffering a lot from injuries. Even when we had that long run of clean sheets a couple of seasons back, Evans was integral to it.
He has looked a top defender and prospect for the most part of his senior career at United, but a period of poor/sub-standard form since the back-end of last season now means that a defender who wasn't even noticed at Evans' age and hasn't achieved or done half as much as Evans himself should now be seen as a much superior defender and well ahead of him in development. I don't agree with that. Cahill does look a good defender but some good form on his part and bad form on Evans' shouldn't mean that we should forget what they've actually done in their careers.
Gary Cahill for sale: Bolton alert Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham | Mail Online
Bolton Wanderers are ready to cash in on star defender Gary Cahill after revealing their debts had risen to £93million.
The in-demand England defender has been tracked by Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham over the last 12 months and Bolton chairman Phil Gartside admits he can no longer resist an offer.
After announcing annual losses of £35.4m - more than double the figure of 12 months ago - Gartside admited he may also have to sell in-form Johan Elmander when the transfer window reopens in January.
The Sweden striker, who was signed for £8.2m from Toulouse in 2008, is out of contract in the summer and at risk of walking out for nothing. Both Spartak Moscow and Fenerbahce are interested in the 29-year-old.
But Bolton fans will be most concerned about losing 24-year-old Cahill, who has once again impressed at the back during the club's impressive rise to sixth in the table this season.
'If a Champions League team knocks on our door in January that’s the best time to sell an asset because Champions League teams will pay the money,' Garside, who is looking for about £15m, told Bloomberg.
The Reebok Stadium chief, who is also a long-serving FA board member, has called for limits on Premier League players’ wages.
'Owners should be allowed to invest in equity,' he said. 'So if you, as an owner, want to buy a striker for £10million that shouldn’t be a problem.
'But what you then can’t do is pay him extortionate wages that take you out of the break-even situation.
'We are carrying too many on the wage bill. To be fair, nine players are out of contract in the summer, within them heavy earners, and we’ll decide if we want to offer them new contracts.
'I think (Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore) is concerned as much as anybody about the financial state. We keep upping the income and we keep losing more money. It’s ridiculous.'
Bolton’s financial position is not as precarious as was Portsmouth’s when they went into administration owing more that £120m because the Wanderers’ owner Eddie Davies is owed the bulk of the debt.
But on Elmander, Gartside admitted: 'He’s out of contract at the end of this season and again if someone knocks on the door in January then that’s obviously a consideration we have to make.'
Bolton Wanderers are ready to cash in on star defender Gary Cahill after revealing their debts had risen to £93million.
The in-demand England defender has been tracked by Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham over the last 12 months and Bolton chairman Phil Gartside admits he can no longer resist an offer.
After announcing annual losses of £35.4m - more than double the figure of 12 months ago - Gartside admited he may also have to sell in-form Johan Elmander when the transfer window reopens in January.
The Sweden striker, who was signed for £8.2m from Toulouse in 2008, is out of contract in the summer and at risk of walking out for nothing. Both Spartak Moscow and Fenerbahce are interested in the 29-year-old.
But Bolton fans will be most concerned about losing 24-year-old Cahill, who has once again impressed at the back during the club's impressive rise to sixth in the table this season.
'If a Champions League team knocks on our door in January that’s the best time to sell an asset because Champions League teams will pay the money,' Garside, who is looking for about £15m, told Bloomberg.
The Reebok Stadium chief, who is also a long-serving FA board member, has called for limits on Premier League players’ wages.
'Owners should be allowed to invest in equity,' he said. 'So if you, as an owner, want to buy a striker for £10million that shouldn’t be a problem.
'But what you then can’t do is pay him extortionate wages that take you out of the break-even situation.
'We are carrying too many on the wage bill. To be fair, nine players are out of contract in the summer, within them heavy earners, and we’ll decide if we want to offer them new contracts.
'I think (Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore) is concerned as much as anybody about the financial state. We keep upping the income and we keep losing more money. It’s ridiculous.'
Bolton’s financial position is not as precarious as was Portsmouth’s when they went into administration owing more that £120m because the Wanderers’ owner Eddie Davies is owed the bulk of the debt.
But on Elmander, Gartside admitted: 'He’s out of contract at the end of this season and again if someone knocks on the door in January then that’s obviously a consideration we have to make.'
Signed him in FM2011 and he ended up in the team of the year. Sign him up.
Really never got the hype with this kid, looks just what he is to me, a decent solid defender nothing more nothing less, is he really anything special? we have the best centre back partnership in the planet in Ferdinand/Vidic, we have great back ups in Evans/Smalling even Brown, where does the need to spend 10-15 million on Gary Cahill come from? i wouldn't even have him on the bench if he were here right now.
I don't think he's a top level defender, i think Bolton is about right for him, it all sounds like Brede Hangeleand all over again, decent defender at a lower level club being touted as the next big thing to move to one of the elite, but never happens, i actually rate Hangeland higher than Cahill to.
I don't think he's a top level defender, i think Bolton is about right for him, it all sounds like Brede Hangeleand all over again, decent defender at a lower level club being touted as the next big thing to move to one of the elite, but never happens, i actually rate Hangeland higher than Cahill to.
The lad IMO is younger version of John Terry. If a club like Spurs or Liverpool sign him they won't regret it.
i think we would have been interested, but are very well stocked up in that department.
Watched Cahill for England and he was definitely much better than the highly rated Dawson and the hapless Jagielka.
As for quality,Imo he s on par with an on form johnny evans
Watched Cahill for England and he was definitely much better than the highly rated Dawson and the hapless Jagielka.
As for quality,Imo he s on par with an on form johnny evans
We've got Smalling and Evans.
I'll wager some dollar that he goes to either Spurs or Arsenal. I'm thinking Spurs.
I'll wager some dollar that he goes to either Spurs or Arsenal. I'm thinking Spurs.