Television Game of Thrones TV Series | Season 2 | NO book talk!!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
Shit choice. No-where near poncey or arty enough
Well it's no Anchorman, to be fair. As for SW, it suffers from the same problems...as does LOTR too. The good thing about Game, however, is that it's not classic good vs evil. It's more complex than that. Love to see some imp on imp action, though. And villians...all actors love playing them.
I would say it wasn't quite so simple. I never really hated him to be honest, probably because it was easy to see why he is like he is.
Oh I don't really believe that, I was just trying to make a point. I think Joffrey actually has quite a lot to him.
Although there's no easy way to see why he takes so much pleasure in other peoples pain. Despite him being a child and the product of incest which is enough to turn most people into a cnut, he has something else to him which I would only describe as genuine evil.
I think there are layers to him as a character, there is a kernel of evil in him but it's never been checked, he's been raised in an environment that says he's never wrong and if anyone starts on him they are destroyed.
He could have been redeemed at one point, I think he's too far gone now.
He could have been redeemed at one point, I think he's too far gone now.
How does his character differ from books? Or doesn't it?
I think you are being too harsh on GOT. It is miles better than LOTR for starters. I think the characters are very well drawn out with good depth to them in GOT. Some threads of story are starting to stray badly now though.
Didn't say it wasn't better than LOTR. In fact it's a shedload better.
robb doesn't want to be the king, he wants to take revenge and go back home. there are only two choices and they are either joffery or stannis.
id much prefer a proper leader rather than that little shit. stannis is the opposite of joffery. stannis didn't retreat when half his ships got burned, instead he lead the charge and was the first one to climb the ladder and take the enemy head on whilst his troops behind him ran away. while joffery ran away to some corner at the first sign of trouble.
"There is no creature on earth half so terrifying as a truly just man (Stannis Baratheon)" -Varys to Eddard Stark
Yeah. I do agree with some of your complaints but this was never going to be as well written as The Wire so I am giving it a bit of leeway such as as Tyion coming in at last moment to save the day.
This tv series may be more satisfying than the LOTR movies, but the 'Song of Ice and Fire' series can't hold a candle to the books by Tolkien.
It's the other way around.
Wait, so you've read the books? So why the feck have you been "speculating" on stuff in this thread if you've read them?
He doesn't have a single post in the book thread, so I have my doubts.
yes he's a little shit but you see that he's really just a boy, he doesnt have a clue what he's doing and like any spoiled brat he lashes out and acts worse because of it. He's the bastard of siblings, had an overbearing mother, a father that didnt give a shit about him and the rest of the world fawning over him because he was the king in waiting. All in all he's going to turn out a twat and that is just what happend.
I've started reading book 1, I'm halfway through, it's obviously not something one would call literature.
Spoiler: Maybe a spoiler probably not. Content: How many books were originally intended to be in series
I wonder if HBO are only planning on going up to book 3, originally the book series was only going to be 3 books, so it should come to a conclusion of sorts at that point. As someone else pointed out, HBO are planning on breaking book 3 into two seasons.
If they keep the same schedule of filming, at the start of filming for a season 5 Arya will be 4 years older than she was when the series starts. Unless book 4 occurs 4 years after book 1, it might be a bit awkward having someone now approaching adulthood playing a 12 year old character.
I wonder if they won't switch to making films at that point if the series maintains it's popularity.
If they keep the same schedule of filming, at the start of filming for a season 5 Arya will be 4 years older than she was when the series starts. Unless book 4 occurs 4 years after book 1, it might be a bit awkward having someone now approaching adulthood playing a 12 year old character.
I wonder if they won't switch to making films at that point if the series maintains it's popularity.
Joffrey Terry
You managed to complete LOTR?! I got bored midway through TT. Was unbearable. If that's classed as quality literature...
I think that I'm starting doing that this weekend. Can't wait for another 5 years.
Why is that funny?
Would you'd agree LOTR is the best piece of fantasy written? It's almost entirely based on myths of the past, which are considered literature.
I'm not one to say what's really literature and what isn't, but I'm sure some people who are qualified have said LOTR makes the grade.
I think it's a very impressive work. It took a very smart man a very long time to write.
I'm enjoying the first book of 'A Song of Ice and Fire' well enough, but it's pulp.
edit: Actually I've read LOTR about 10 times.
next weeks episode could be the last episode of the series because hbo has a trackrecord of cancelling quality shows after two seasons.
Because you've said it doesn't hold a candle to the lord of the rings books, despite having only read half of the first book, which is one of five released so far.
Have you ever read half of a book that was pulp that turned into literature in the 2nd half?
I haven't.
Here is a chart of the show's ratings. Episode 9 should jump in viewers.
Considering the higher ratings of season 2 I can't see them planning on canceling it anytime soon. They've already picked up season 3.
To be fair, if he doesn't like the first book he won't like the rest.
I know I'd rather read ASoIaF than read massive paragraphs about the moon silhouetting against the lakes in LotR though.
Oh, and there's no way HBO will cancel it. Big ratings and massive DVD sales, it's a big money maker for them.
I know I'd rather read ASoIaF than read massive paragraphs about the moon silhouetting against the lakes in LotR though.
Oh, and there's no way HBO will cancel it. Big ratings and massive DVD sales, it's a big money maker for them.
I bet it took him ages to write all of those terrible poems as well.
I didn't get past the hobbits. True story.
I'm not a big fan of the poems.
But I really enjoy the characters, they're so unlike anything in contemporary stories. I especially like Aragorn and Faramir as neither of them succumb to the temptations of power, its inspiring when modern writers don't think a hero is interesting unless they're flawed.
I'm not sure I've read a story that has so much appreciation for nature and the beauty of the world being beyond anything humans could create, and how that balances against the wastelands left from warfare. The idea of working with nature is very buddhist, the elves are like mythical taoists from the Golden Kingdom of chinese legend, never imposing on anything or anyone, yet finding there the greatest power.
And while it should be a publicist's nightmare, my favorite parts are when someone stops everything and tells a long story about how things were in the past.
And you can't say it's not epic, I've never read anything so rich in details, I wouldn't dare try to write something that complex myself.
fecking brilliant episode that. Really impressed with the battle scene, especially the ships blowing up.
Not laughing at you two but just the contrast in these posts I found hilarious.
I like the book a lot, I just think it's written by someone who wanted to give the reader everything he ever wanted in a story. It's not set up to reveal interesting truths, there's little art to the language, it's a really brilliant action story, however. Clive Cussler eat your heart out.
I actually don't like stories about dragons and magical powers, this and LOTR are the only ones I've read that I could enjoy, that I got more than 10 pages into.
Not laughing at you two but just the contrast in these posts I found hilarious.
I tried to explain my thoughts with less words, I just couldn't manage.
Casting news for season 3
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/05/ew-scoop-on-s3-the-reeds-are-in-and-so-is-blackfish/
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/05/ew-scoop-on-s3-the-reeds-are-in-and-so-is-blackfish/
Not laughing at you two but just the contrast in these posts I found hilarious.
I'm laughing at him. I knew the ships blowing up would make him so happy.
I'm laughing at him. I knew the ships blowing up would make him so happy.
I was just posting my opinion on the episode I saw. I did not read the post above me.
I like LOTR, but there is far too much singing, poems and eating, half the time I felt I was reading the most retarded cookbook in history.