I'm not having that Weaste ... there have always been games that can be completed quickly, granted. Now it seems that they are the majority whereas they used to be the minority.
Game devs are taking the piss ...
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I've already told you the main reason why that is the case.
Another reason is disk space and costs of development. I could write Jet Set Willy in a week on my own probably, I cannot do that with a game such a Crysis, Gears of War, Halo 3, Rachet & Clank, it's not possible. feck knows how much Killzone 2 is costing Sony (it's a big tech demo anyway IMO), I really dare not try to think, but I bet that 10 years ago many big budget films cost less.
Take MGS4, it has something like 300 people working on it.
I'm not disagreeing with you per se afrocentricity, I'm just trying to throw a few ideas at you as to why that it might seem to be the case.
Frame rates etc., why a game runs better on one platform or other for me we can place it directly down to the programmers being either lazy or technically incompetent. I have no problem with that. What you are talking about is either bad game design or costs.
Frame rates etc., why a game runs better on one platform or other for me we can place it directly down to the programmers being either lazy or technically incompetent. I have no problem with that. What you are talking about is either bad game design or costs.
I think its about money aswell ... why make a game that takes 20 hrs to complete when you can cut it into 3 games and call it a trilogy and make 3 times as much (Crysis, Assassins Creed?). As this thread illustrates most people aren't really fussed about it .... I've had enough as it all adds up.
Unless you're a superhero I don't believe that you can totally complete Oblivion in under fifteen hours. Do every side quest, explore every dungeon, kill every bad guy. And if you're only including the main quest, then that doesn't count. Half of RPGs is doing side-quests and advancing the character.
And as I said, World of Warcraft is longer than fifteen hours. That is a fact. You cannot complete it in under fifteen hours. Now, completion is something that you can argue about since there is no set end to the game, but if we include something like hitting the level cap (used to be 60, now 70) then you CANNOT do that in under fifteen hours. It is impossible. The game does not allow it.
And besides, if you complete a game in under fifteen hours then it seems to me you're more interested in completing it mega-quickly and then complaining about how short it was rather than playing it properly and immersing yourself.
It's like shagging Angelina Jolie but racing to see how quickly you can come.
You can know exactly what you're doing and there are still just too many side quests for it to be possible to complete it in 15 hours. Compare that to Gears of War which me and a mate finished in 8 hours on coop mode from start to finish and we died plenty of time and you can see that when some thought is put into a game then it can be a long story, but for games like Gears of War the single player campaign is put there just as training for online play pretty much so they make it shit and boring.
You are totally right. If i'd have had to go back to certain stages or the beggining of the level or whatever in Gears of War i'd never have finished it. Instead i'd die a couple of times, figure out what i needed to do and then improve on it next attempt, shortening the amount of time played. Gears of War was the first game i finished on a console since i was a kid and felt no sense of achievement whatsoever.
'kinell mate. I've just started playing it for PC ...
I was heavily into PC online gaming, mainly in FPS (legacy built in quake3)
but anyway, since the online gaming scene got retarded and involved insane amounts of money to shit players who had 24/7 to spend practicing i quit, but to keep occupied started up playing console to pass the time, Weaste's point about the checkpoint/savegame/etc is quite a valid one, i'd still be stuck at the start of gears of war if it wasnt for the mighty checkpoint Its a good action packed game, just a little disapointing at the end. The last boss is a fecker and it was only when the credits started rolling i realised i was actually at the end, i thought it was just a tough sub boss.
I was heavily into PC online gaming, mainly in FPS (legacy built in quake3)
Its a good action packed game, just a little disapointing at the end. The last boss is a fecker and it was only when the credits started rolling i realised i was actually at the end, i thought it was just a tough sub boss.
Its grown on me, I quite like it now in fairness ... I'll probably see those credits in a few minutes, and be back on here fuming.
in the middle of playing the witcher at the moment, pretty good game, but has one odd element for the nerds, you collect "cards" depicting naked women be they humans vampires elfs etc when you have talked to them enough for them to "Like" you or if you visit the local brothel, can just see the nerds in their bedroom in their mums house getting excited at the thought of pleasuring a goblin
...Where are you upto?
Don't get people started on World of Warcraft, it sucks you in, bleeds you dry of life and then just as you start to think, oh i can move on, i dont need this anymore, they release new content and your fecked all over again.
I also have put in about 100 days of time, with 3 characters, i finally booted the habbit a few months back and i've never been happier, feckin stupid game
Manic bats rip you to shreds if you step into the dark ... please tell me that's about halfway?
Yeah your about half way, you have the mines to go yet and that big feck off mechanospider you saw as you got evac'd at the begining of the game, thats gonna take you a couple of tries and no cheating