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Frenkie de Jong - Part 2 - Chase Harder.
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It is his dream club therefore i can understand him......the club wanted to sell him and not his coach (A difference for me)......he has never said "I don't wanna play for Manchester United".
And if they put him again on the transfer list then we would be stupid if we don't sign him.
Of course there are 10-20 other midfield options for us but in my opinion he is perfect for our midfield.
The thing was he constantly kept hinting that he had 0 intention of moving throughout the entire saga yet a popular narrative in here was that he would move if they paid him his due wages, which again went completely against everything he himself was putting out there in the media.
Completely different situation to a Ramos or any other player using united to get a better contract.
Is it not the case that Frenkie has made it clear many times that he is at his dream club and has no intention of leaving it?
We go again... and again and again haha
Never happening is it. Very much time to move on to other targets.
They just won the league and Busqets is moving on, zero chance now
I'd say never say never but it's unlikely. If we get a favourable takeover and can present a very very tempting project I'd say there's a chance, but not a huge one
Ah, the caf’s infamous ‘well run club’ shite again.
So the window is just left open for the last two months for the amateurs. Do I need to list the number of great players United have signed in August, or even deadline day, over the years?
He did, and as a result, he didn’t leave, and we ultimately signed other players. So?
I'm pretty sure you were suggesting that there was nothing amateurish about trying to sign a football player during a transfer window. As far as that statement goes, that's obviously true. Clubs sign players they want all the time during transfer windows and it's been that way since Adam ate the apple.
But what's been stated here as fact, which you agree is fact, is that in this case the player we badly wanted made it very clear he had no intention of leaving his club. That is the point some posters are referring to as amateurish.
If several years ago United were to spend month after month going after Messi, despite Messi making it very clear that he had no intention of leaving Barcelona, it would be pretty ridiculous -- one could say amateurish -- of us trying to convince Messi to leave Barcelona for United. Or let's say Benzema from Real. Right?
Maybe because it was quite clear from the beginning that De Jong and his missus had zero interest in leaving Barcelona yet we kept persisting all summer?
When have you seen another elite club beg a player all summer who has no interest whatsoever in joining them?
No, wrong.
Firstly, these armchair moaners are a million miles from being qualified to determine what is amateur about the mechanics of a transfer pursuit anyway. But secondly, all you have said has ignored, I would argue, wilfully - that we were pursuing a player whose club was desperate to sell him. In such a context, there is ALWAYS a possibility that the player can be sold, whatever he says in the press. I cannot count the amount of players who have moved over the years simply because their club decided they had to sell them. In fact, in such circumstances, I’d argue that the eventual outcome of De Jong staying was actually the least likely outcome. It is not common place for players to stay at clubs they are not wanted, openly not wanted at that, and who have accepted bids for them. There’s a huge difference between United pursuing a happy De Jong and a happy Pedri last summer.
So no, this doesn’t appear ‘amateurish’ at all to me, and my suspicion is the name calling is latently mismanaged emotions from many who are ultimately just heartbroken that we didn’t get the player. We win some, we lose some - but we are fecking well within our rights to try if we so choose to. And the amount of time to which we can try is clearly defined by the parameters of the window. If we decide that we want to give it every chance and then only move for alternatives in the final two weeks of the window because the player in question is that vital to us, then we are within our rights to do so. It’s up to any club how they use the time of a transfer window. When it was all said and done, we got two new midfielders in the time that was given to us to do so, there is nothing amateur about it and I repeat, people just love to moan and in every window the press love to fuel some sort of ‘United are losing the transfer market’ story.
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Perhaps when that player’s club happen to want to sell him? Is it amateurish for clubs to try and convince Scott McTominay or Harry Maguire to join them this summer, simply because those players would prefer to stay at United?
In the real world, there is nothing amateurish, or embarrassing, about talking to a recruitment target to try and sell them on joining your organisation. Walking away and not pursuing a key target because they said they want to stay is a far more amateur way to do business in fact. Anyone good at their job would instead first try to show the person how much their organisation values them and sell the benefits in the hope that they can convince them. And if they can’t, then they can’t. They move on and hire someone else, which is seen as perfectly normal except when it is Manchester United for some reason.
We've done good business in August and on deadline day, sure. Doesn't mean it's a good practice to leave things late.
Interesting.
The word “amateurish” is a bit harsh and inapt to describe our quest for a player who has repeatedly expressed his desire to remain with the club of his dreams — after all, we’re talking about Barcelona, not Burnley — but would you at least concede that our quest for this player should be described as quixotic?
God please no not this again. He wont leave the current laliga winners to come to a club who dsnt even know who the owners are going to be in a come next season
It just means that it doesn’t matter, things happen when they happen and the success of them are determinthe ouby the outcome ultimately.tcome
Sunmer saga 2023
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So what you are telling me... is that there is a chance?
Personally I enjoyed the crazy catalan that shouted about how hot it was all the time.
Maybe we should spend the entire summer -- again -- chasing a player who has made it very clear has no interest in leaving Barcelona and has no interest in going to United?
So Barca want Messi and he wants to go back there too.
The Barca journalists are saying that they need very fast money through player sales to get Messi.
Of course we have the "takeover problem" but this is a big chance to get De Jong.
The Barca journalists are saying that they need very fast money through player sales to get Messi.
Of course we have the "takeover problem" but this is a big chance to get De Jong.
I'd almost forgotten about him!
Let this thread die ffs.
move on alreadyI have doubts if he's really the perfect fit for current United side for a few reasons, but I have no doubt we're not getting him.
So you’re saying that there’s a chance……
Can someone lock this thread?
Ban this lad ffs.
Hope he likes running a lot because playing with Messi he will have to run twice as hard. Hope he will get paid this year.
Don’t really want him with all the baggage that comes along but he’s a pipe dream compared to Mount.
Given our chef is 300 years old, according to Ronaldo, perhaps we need to replace him with a ****.
As long as he's breathing there's a chance. Let's electric boogaloo this mother.
Mount and FDJ solves everything.
A cry for help.
Everybody dance!
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