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To be fair to him, I can see why Ten Hag wants him - guy unlocked us a couple times
If he was a mercenary wouldn’t he have gone to the club who could actually pay his wages? He wanted to stay at his dream club, and there’s the small matter of them owing him 17m.I am quite surprised so many of you would still take him... He's clearly a mercenary who didn't want to be here. He'd be another Pogba in that regard. We need players that want to play for us not ones that dont, thats why ETH got rid of those types. FDJ has missed his chance, & didn't want the challenge when we werent in a great position at the start of the season, that type of player will go missing when it counts. Take the 100 million (which he clearly isn't worth) elsewhere.
Call me naive, but I still think the main reason he stayed at Barcelona was that he didnt want to give up the wages he was owed, and to be fair, none of us would be prepared to do that.
Fortunately, the owed wages are being paid back over time, so the money owed is reducing. Also, his contract is running down, so his transfer value is falling. These factors should mean it is easier to get the email over the line this summer than last. Just have to convince his missus that he will be back in Manchester in August.
Let's be honest, its the sunshine and the fact his missus doesn't want to move here, All this talk about playing in the CL is a red herring considering Barca were just as likely as we were to win it this season.Well reliable journos kept saying not being in Champions League played a part,now it looks like we will be so what excuse he uses
He was very good tonight even with Fred doing a good job on him.
Casemiro - De Jong
Antony Bruno Rashford
Kane/Oshimen
That would be amazing
Let's be honest, its the sunshine and the fact his missus doesn't want to move here, All this talk about playing in the CL is a red herring considering Barca were just as likely as we were to win it this season.
just missing the "sunglasses"FREDgar Davids!
I am droning on about the sticking point of asking where the hell his Ajax spirit and persona has gone. The first bolded, I agree with, in essence, but why doesn't he have that drive and character within himself? Was that ten Hag imbuing him, or has he lost it (or at least had it lay dormant so long he has no idea how to summon it anymore)?
I'd believe it's the environment if he wasn't exactly the same for his NT. Simply sublime when everything is going his teams' way, but when it's time to roll the sleeves up and take the reins, he is nowhere to be seen (anymore).
My scrutiny is less, under the assumption we'll soon be Qatari-owned, but if we're not, and he's supposed to be a massive portion of our budget, I'd be concerned about his apparently listless spirit and drive.
If we have money to burn, then sure, part of the rotation whilst taking the 'risk' he has it about him to step up - even if he didn't then, you're in a City-like indifference as (if) he gets benched.
Yeah but looking at it from the perspective of the missus and her priorities (ergo their priorities), Amsterdam is home, and Barca is probably the best place away from home for a top level footballer. We all love Manchester, but sadly it doesn't compare to the sunshine and beaches of Barcelona for the instagram crowd.Yeah will never win her over,in regards to the weather can't imagine Amsterdam was sunny all the time so that's a cheap get out
just missing the "sunglasses"
As for Frankie one of the overrated players out there missing the elite mentality. it's a question of if ETH could get him with the intensity and dedication but I would rather not risk that. It's not like he's got really uniques skillset. He's pretty basic passer with a good turn on him and dribble in tight space. Finding someone like Casemiro will be more difficult, or a ball playing CDM who can defend. De Jong is just not a 6 and not dynamic enough to play as a no8 in Prem now. Massively overpriced too..
Barella like others mentioned would be my favourite player to get, has all the tools to play for ETH side.
If he was a mercenary wouldn’t he have gone to the club who could actually pay his wages? He wanted to stay at his dream club, and there’s the small matter of them owing him 17m.
Yeah but looking at it from the perspective of the missus and her priorities (ergo their priorities), Amsterdam is home, and Barca is probably the best place away from home for a top level footballer. We all love Manchester, but sadly it doesn't compare to the sunshine and beaches of Barcelona for the instagram crowd.
He wouldn't have known that they were in such a dire financial situation when he signed though would he. I doubt in the interview process the bosses at Barca would have told him "come play for us but we can't pay you" they would have lied to him wouldn't they. Besides if he is legally owed that money then he would have held all the cards and could have left for us or another club and taken Barcelona to court.
Ireespective of this, he didn't want to come to us because we were in the mud at the time and didn't fancy the challenge of being the main man to try and get us back to where we should be, if he really wanted to he could have. I don't want players like that, we've had too many in recent years.
It shouldn't even come to that. Right now she's enjoying the good life because her partner is an elite footballer earning stupid bucks. She'll either be happy for anywhere he wants to go for the sake of his career (like you know, somewhere that doesn't publicly humiliate him and insist he takes a paycut or leaves despite his contractual obligation), or she's welcome to leave him and get off the gravy train. Manchester is hardly some Siberian gulag.Yeah so true she should have come over too and actually given herself a feel for the city
You almost described his unique skillset. He's not just a good turn. His turn is elite which works against any kind opposition and in any kind of situation (whether his team is being pinned back and under pressure, or when they dominate).just missing the "sunglasses"
As for Frankie one of the overrated players out there missing the elite mentality. it's a question of if ETH could get him with the intensity and dedication but I would rather not risk that. It's not like he's got really uniques skillset. He's pretty basic passer with a good turn on him and dribble in tight space. Finding someone like Casemiro will be more difficult, or a ball playing CDM who can defend. De Jong is just not a 6 and not dynamic enough to play as a no8 in Prem now. Massively overpriced too..
Barella like others mentioned would be my favourite player to get, has all the tools to play for ETH side.
You almost described his unique skillset. He's not just a good turn. His turn is elite which works against any kind opposition and in any kind of situation (whether his team is being pinned back and under pressure, or when they dominate).
Barcelona doesn't have great threat from the wings, nor they're great at fast counter attack. Their main attackers can't beat our defenders in term of speed. Their other players tend to be drawn toward the ball, instead of stretching play. There is very little room for fancy passing in their style until they get to the final third and have numbers to combine. It's the style of play.
Casemiro had to play within himself in some aspect at Real Madrid for different reason. Now you see he expresses himself with more freedom in underrated part of his game.
Not sure I agree. For one FDJ fits the profile of the midfielder we need a lot more than Bellingham does, and he's had the benefit of working under Ten Hag. Bellingham for all we know could be another overhyped English player who looks good in the Bundesliga.He played well first half but second half he was invisible. Fred ran him ragged.
Decent player but still don't see where the hype is with him regarding 100m fees. He's nowhere near worth that. I'd much rather sign Bellingham for that type of money.
He is not the guy.
A few nice touches tonight but again fairly anonymousl.
Not sure I agree. For one FDJ fits the profile of the midfielder we need a lot more than Bellingham does, and he's had the benefit of working under Ten Hag. Bellingham for all we know could be another overhyped English player who looks good in the Bundesliga.
Bellingham looked class in Qatar too and always looks good in the CL for Dortmund tbf.
He's got more about him than Frenkie.
Frenkie also looked brilliant under Ten Hag's Ajax in the champions league. I don't doubt Bellingham potentially being a special player, but I do genuinely feel Frenkie fits our team best, and is frenkly (hehe) the safer bet considering his relationship and familiarity with Ten Hag. He's a more natural Eriksen upgrade which I suspect is the profile we're looking at.Bellingham looked class in Qatar too and always looks good in the CL for Dortmund tbf.
He's got more about him than Frenkie.
Frenkie also looked brilliant under Ten Hag's Ajax in the champions league. I don't doubt Bellingham potentially being a special player, but I do genuinely feel Frenkie fits our team best, and is frenkly (hehe) the safer bet considering his relationship and familiarity with Ten Hag. He's a more natural Eriksen upgrade which I suspect is the profile we're looking at.
That's my captain
How is he a mercenary? He chose to stay at his club.I am quite surprised so many of you would still take him... He's clearly a mercenary who didn't want to be here. He'd be another Pogba in that regard. We need players that want to play for us not ones that dont, thats why ETH got rid of those types. FDJ has missed his chance, & didn't want the challenge when we werent in a great position at the start of the season, that type of player will go missing when it counts. Take the 100 million (which he clearly isn't worth) elsewhere.